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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:36 PM
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Exact words that Kerry and Edwards mentioned about Mary Cheney
Edited on Wed May-10-06 11:38 PM by zulchzulu
Debate 3 Bush vs. Kerry
( http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/debatereferee/debate_1013.html)

SCHIEFFER: ...Do you believe homosexuality is a choice?

KERRY: We're all God's children, Bob. And I think if you were to talk to Dick Cheney's daughter, who is a lesbian, she would tell you that she's being who she was, she's being who she was born as.

I think if you talk to anybody, it's not choice. I've met people who struggled with this for years, people who were in a marriage because they were living a sort of convention, and they struggled with it.

And I've met wives who are supportive of their husbands or vice versa when they finally sort of broke out and allowed themselves to live who they were, who they felt God had made them.

I think we have to respect that.

The president and I share the belief that marriage is between a man and a woman. I believe that. I believe marriage is between a man and a woman.

But I also believe that because we are the United States of America, we're a country with a great, unbelievable Constitution, with rights that we afford people, that you can't discriminate in the workplace. You can't discriminate in the rights that you afford people.

You can't disallow someone the right to visit their partner in a hospital. You have to allow people to transfer property, which is why I'm for partnership rights and so forth.

Now, with respect to DOMA and the marriage laws, the states have always been able to manage those laws. And they're proving today, every state, that they can manage them adequately.


Edwards (in the only debate with Darth Cheney) mentioned in a question about same-sex marriage:
(http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/10/05/debate.transcript2/index.html#q13)

"Now, as to this question, let me say first that I think the vice president and his wife love their daughter. I think they love her very much. And you can't have anything but respect for the fact that they're willing to talk about the fact that they have a gay daughter, the fact that they embrace her. It's a wonderful thing. And there are millions of parents like that who love their children, who want their children to be happy."


After more comments, Cheney was asked to repond and he said this:

CHENEY: Well, Gwen, let me simply thank the senator for the kind words he said about my family and our daughter. I appreciate that very much.

IFILL: That's it?

CHENEY: That's it.


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agincourt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:39 PM
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1. Thank you
A little perspective for once.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:39 PM
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2. HOW DARE THEY SAY SUCH WONDERFUL THINGS ABOUT MARY CHENEY
when clearly she is a big jerk, just like her dad and mom.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:42 PM
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3. ONE OF GOD'S CHILDREN!?!?!?!?!
OH. MY. GOD!

How DARE he!
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:51 PM
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6. Democrats aren't allowed to use the word God! He's a Repug!!!
God has been acting like a Repug recently though... (insert thunderclap here)

:evilgrin:
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:52 PM
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7. But Kerry mispoke --- Clearly she is the Spawn of Satan -- EOM
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:54 PM
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10. oh, liittleeee clarkie!!!!!!!!!
lol!!!!!

thank you for the late evening laff! and to the OP for putting this up.

exactly... how DAREEEEEEEEEEEEEE Kerry be so cruel and call her, (GULP) a child of GOD'S!)

the nebraska women's bingo club is all DEAD because of having to hear Kerry say such pervasive language...

how HUMILIATING for Mary Cheney.... she might as well be MARY SHELLEY to me, because she's like a frankenstein monster to me right now for calling Kerry a SOB after the nicest OF ALL things he could've said about her, he called her one of GOD's Children.... Kerry was showing they were willing to use her as a political weapon, so he let it be known her own FATHER disapproved of her rights.

www.cafepress.com/warisprofitable CHECK IT Out!!!!
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:58 PM
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12. And then Edwards said her family were role models
They should be run out of town!

Eesh. Eh, I just have to remember that she's just trying to sell her book. And after all that talk about what a private person she was and all. Some private person she turned out to be.

But then, I never did understand Log Cabin Republicans.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 03:03 PM
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20. oh I understand em...
massochists.
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:43 PM
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4. What they should have said is this:
"Mary Cheney is whoring for her father and is lying to you. The republican party hates queers and you should never, ever vote for them. Ignore the crazy lesbian--she is only doing what daddy said to."
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:52 PM
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8. LOL n/t
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:57 PM
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11. STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you got me ROLLING with that one! Could you have imagined if John Kerry turned to the camera and said that!?????????? oh gosh.....

but you're exactly right...
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:44 PM
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5. Well, there you go.
Kinda takes the wind out of the sails of that faux issue. I find it fascinating that this would be a source of debate when we've got really interesting news breaking about the national scale wire taps. It makes one wonder.....
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:52 PM
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9. Lesbian Mary Story vs. Unconstitutional FISA-Wiretap Story
Sex sells, babay!
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 12:00 AM
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13. Mary's a political GOP slut selling her book
She has no ethics.
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 01:02 AM
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14. Mary, tell us some more about being a shill for George W. Bush.
Then, shove your new book up your hypocritical ass. One page at a time.

:patriot:
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 07:22 AM
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15. Kick for a little truth injection in the morning...
Read what Kerry and Edwards REALLY said, not what some Bush shill said. By the way, will Neocon Fundies buy a book from a lesbian?
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 08:13 AM
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16. Larry King showed her the clips from the debates
last night and asked her what was wrong with what they said. Her reply was basically "they USED me for political reasons" !?

Like she's USING them to sell books now? What a hypocrite.

And name calling directed at Kerry/Edwards shows no class at all. I don't believe she's helping the gay community either with her shallow rantings.

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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 08:44 AM
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17. That is nothing less than supportive and understanding.
Me thinks Mary doth protest too much. The remarks made by Kerry and Edwards were those of men who are understanding and accepting of gay people.

And Senator Kerry has been almost completely supportive of GLBT people. His record in the Senate speaks of that. Now, if only we could get him to change his opposition to same-sex marriage....
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 08:48 AM
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18. The hypocrisy of the Cheney family
Edited on Thu May-11-06 09:12 AM by NewYorkerfromMass
Well I guess it's O.K. for the Cheneys to use their daughter for political purposes but not their opponents:

Well, the question has come up obviously in the past with respect to the question of gay marriage. Lynne and I have a gay daughter, so it's an issue that our family is very familiar with. We have two daughters, and we have enormous pride in both of them. They're both fine young women. They do a superb job, frankly, of supporting us. And we are blessed with both our daughters....

Remarks by the Vice President and Mrs. Cheney at Town Hall Meeting- Davenport, Iowa August 24, 2004
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 10:04 AM
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19. Thanks for posting this n/t
Edited on Thu May-11-06 10:05 AM by politicasista
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