If the 'new' Al Gore runs, he'll win. Period.

[goodboy]

[Patchuli]

1. Well I'll be the first to venture an opinion

Because Gore is the better candidate. Better than Kerry, Clark, Edwards, Clinton (shudder), etc.

BETTER. He has vision, he has experience. HE HAS COMMON SENSE. And that's enough for me!

[goodboy]

9. no doubt, he's always had those qualities, he just needed to find himself

and he has.

[gordontron]

2. I think we should see how the political climate shapes up

before jumping to that conclusion :), although I would love him as prez

[goodboy]

12. well, i'd bet dollars to doughnuts that the repuke nominee will be McCain,

and the Pukes are making plans based on the assumption that we're running Hillery (which would be the worst thing we could do IMO)

so just based on that, the Pukes lose to Gore

They run the video-diagnosing cat killer Frishits = the Pukes lose to Gore

Who else could they run to beat us>

[pitohui]

3. he had his chance, he blew it

maybe it's unfair but he had his shot, he didn't want it enough to fight for it, the hour has passed for al gore

[funflower]

7. He won the popular vote in 2000, with Big Dog's problems. He

can win the Electoral College and the popular vote by a large margin in 2008.

[Tom Rinaldo]

71. Big Dog's personal approval ratings were in the 60's at the time n/t

[AlGore-08.com]

90. Sorry, that's not accurate. Check the 2000 exit polls

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2000/results/index.epolls.html

Clinton Job Rating
All Gore Bush Buchanan Nader
Approve 57 % 77 % 20 % 1 % 2 %
Disapprove 41 % 9 % 88 % 0 % 2 %

Opinion of Clinton as a Person
All Gore Bush Buchanan Nader
Favorable 36 % 83 % 13 % 1 % 2 %
Unfavorable 60 % 26 % 70 % 0 % 3 %

Opinion of Clinton
All Gore Bush Buchanan Nader
Approve/Like 35 % 85 % 12 % 1 % 2 %
Approve/Dislike 20 % 63 % 33 % 0 % 4 %
Disapprove/Like 1 % 43 % 50 % 1 % 6 %
Disapprove/Dislike 39 % 7 % 89 % 0 % 2 %

Clinton in History Books for
All Gore Bush Buchanan Nader
Leadership 29 % 83 % 14 % 1 % 2 %
Scandals 68 % 33 % 63 % 1 % 3 %

Clinton Scandals Were...
All Gore Bush Buchanan Nader
Very Important 24 % 18 % 80 % 1 % 1 %
Somewhat Important 20 % 28 % 70 % 0 % 1 %
Not Too Important 17 % 59 % 37 % 1 % 2 %
Not Important At All 37 % 75 % 19 % 1 % 4 %

Reason for Your Vote
All Gore Bush Buchanan Nader
To Support Clinton 10 % 94 % 4 % 1 % 1 %
To Oppose Clinton 18 % 5 % 92 % 1 % 2 %
Clinton Not a Factor 70 % 53 % 43 % 0 % 3 %

Next President's Policies
All Gore Bush Buchanan Nader
Same as Clinton 40 % 87 % 11 % 0 % 2 %
More Conservative 46 % 13 % 85 % 0 % 1 %
More Liberal 10 % 56 % 36 % 0 % 7 %

Clinton and Economy
All Gore Bush Buchanan Nader
Very Responsible 28 % 79 % 18 % 1 % 1 %
Somewhat Responsible 40 % 52 % 43 % 0 % 4 %
Not Too Responsible 19 % 15 % 82 % 0 % 2 %
Not Responsible 10 % 5 % 91 % 0 % 2 %

[goodboy]

13. well, I'll agree that he blew it for not fighting for the election he won

but that was the old Al Gore.

Once the American people get a taste of the new and improved Gore, the one who has been giving incredible (presidential) speeches, they will be moved...and so will the millions who voted for him last time.

[AtomicKitten]

14. he didn't blow it, he won and he was robbed by the Supreme Court

And a new day has dawned for Al Gore.

[goodboy]

29. and the disgusting and bigoted abandonment of the african=americans

who were disenfranchised systematically by the repukes who then received assistence from senate dems for refusing to hold the racist Repukes accountable when the issue was brought forth in the senate by the C.B.C

shame....

[itzamirakul]

103. How true and how easily "forgotten" the abandonment of the African

American vote is. Unfortuantely, we have Democrats who would rather bow and scrape to get a few undecided and Republican voters to vote our way than to harvest the thousands of African American votes THAT THEY CAN COUNT ON!
That smacks of an undercurrent of racism in our own party.

[sandnsea]

16. He should have burned down the Supreme Court

That would have showed 'em.

[goodboy]

30. and then pissed on its ashes.

[Uncle Joe]

53. Then who would swear him in for the oath of office Jan.09?

:)

[ladjf]

17. I disagree. I believe that Gore's hour is now.

His good qualities will be more appreciated now that they were in 2000. It is true that he didn't run a great campaign back then. However, he has learned and matured . At the same time, the American people have had to live through the horrible experiences of the Bush administration. That has led them to the point that they are anxious to find someone of character and wisdom to lead them out of the mess.

[w13rd0]

19. "he didn't want it enough to fight for it"

Where the hell were you in December of 2000? In a box?

[NYCGirl]

38. He fought for SIX WEEKS, right up to the Supreme Court. And that was

without the help of his running mate and the entire Democratic party, who was telling him to give up.

Perhaps you missed that.

[goodboy]

83. cuz liebershitz is a repuke boot licker...(nt)

[bearfan454]

106. f*cking eh on that one buddy.

Holy Joe has always been a puke. His voting record proves it.

[TallahasseeGrannie]

63. He took it to the Supreme Court

How else could he have fought for it?

[Missy Vixen]

66. Based on what?

>he didn't want it enough to fight for it,<

He fought the Republicans and their machine for 30 days at I'm sure a great cost, not only financially but emotionally. I can't even imagine what the Gore family went through while they were in the Vice President's residence getting screamed at daily by F*eekers, for instance.

That's a hell of a lot longer than Kerry fought -- what, 12 hours? He conceded before the vote was even counted.

Gore continues to fight, and fight, and fight for the things he believes in.

Julie

[tuvor]

4. Who's counting the votes?

[goodboy]

22. And therein lies the rub...who's machines will they steal our votes with?

[Autonomy]

5. I agree, BUT

what am *I* doing up at... 3:07 in the morning?!!!

[goodboy]

23. and furthermore, what am I *still* doing up at 645 in the AM?

I have help ;)

[Brundle_Fly]

6. he's my

<--------

homemade avatar.

[goodboy]

24. I gotta get me one of them!!!

[Apollo11]

8. It's gotta be Gore!

In Gore We Trust
www.algore.org :)

[goodboy]

26. cool site, thanks! If not gore who do you think would have the best shot?

not hillary...running her is just about the only way the dems could fuck this one up IMO. but that's there M.O

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

10. I only count hatched chickens...

...but I've got to say...even though I DO understand the nature of politics...that after Hillary's remarks today about Bush being "someone who has a lot of charm and charisma...affable...good company," I think I'll wait until we're on the other side of the midterms before getting too excited about any candidate.

And I hope to God that we come UP with an exciting candidate, because that's really what we NEED.

:patriot:

[goodboy]

27. Running Hillary would be just about the only way the Dems could flush this

election down the toilet.

[Dunvegan]

11. I say Al...Because the Republicans have "AL-GORE-APHOBIA!"

I think Clark is excellent also...wish they'd run together.

[Chipper Chat]

15. Gore/Clark

Unbeatable!

[goodboy]

28. That's my dream ticket too! with a new Democrat controlled congress

right!

[ShortnFiery]

32. Yes!

IMO, That's the winning ticket. :woohoo:

[bowens43]

21. You're kidding right?

The republicans fear Al Gore about as much as they fear Hillary and Clark doesn't stand a chance. Democrats don't like the man.

[Adelante]

40. And the public apparently don't like Al Gore

They like Gore no better and somewhat less than Bush. Go figure :shrug:

The political situation has not helped some of the more prominent members of the Democratic Party. Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts, who was Mr. Bush's opponent in 2004, had a lower approval rating than Mr. Bush: 26 percent, down from 40 percent in a poll conducted right after the election.

And just 28 percent said they had a favorable view of Al Gore, one of Mr. Bush's more vocal critics.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/10/washington/10poll.html

[Uncle Joe]

55. This is because Al was trashed by the media whores for empowering you

when he championed the internet, sort of like Prometheus only without all the liver eating.

[janx]

59. Quite an analogy!

:rofl:

[FrenchieCat]

42. YOU don't like the man.....but

You don't speak for Democrats......and personally, I'm really glad you don't.

[Clark2008]

77. For a guy no Democrat likes, he sure does win a lot of

polls around here (I'm speaking of Wes Clark).

But, I guess you're bound by your own uninformed opinion.

He'll be in Nashville in June for the Jefferson Day Dinner. Tickets are already selling out and they just went on sale Monday.

Nooo... no Dems like him, especially SOUTHERNERS, who we need. Geesch. :eyes:

[Koyaanisqatsi]

108. Gore/Feingold here.

My dream ticket. :)

(LOL to the Al-Gore-aphobia!! I hadn't seen that before. ha!)

I'm sure I'm not the only one who snail-mailed Al Gore after he announced he would not be running for president in '08 with the hopes of changing his mind. I hope others will write letters of encouragement as well!

Contact link: http://algoresupportcenter.com/contactal.html

[saltpoint]

18. Gore can ride in as the "wronged avenger," the restorer of the

Constitutional republic.

It would be a gleaming white horse he'd be atop of and I think his chances are better now than in 2000, when he won the popular vote narrowly -- and the electoral college if you buy -- as I do -- that Bush-Cheney cheated in Florida.

But if the GOP nominates McCain, the race would be very close. Kerry won and Gore lost New Hampshire, and both lost West Virginia. Gore would fight for Ohio this time; his campaign gave it up last time, conceding it to Bush, and even then he only lost by 3.5% of the vote. It was in some respects a truncated effort in Ohio, and he would have been the undisputed president in that election if he'd just stayed and fought.

But as others here point out, Gore has found himself lately and his speeches are sizzlers. I was a Bradley delegate to my state's convention and I'm on board if Gore is our nominee.

If he decides to run I rate his chances at the nomination as very good. The media's favorite, Senator Clinton, is the most vulnerable to a potential Gore candidacy, IMO.

[bowens43]

20. In 2000 we saw at least 3 'new Al Gores'

and none of them could even beat the idiot. Sorry Al Gores little quick change acts are part of the reason he lost.

If Al Gore or Kerry or Hillary or Clark or any of the losers from 2000 or 2004 get the nomination, Republicans win. Period.

[goodboy]

25. Gore did beat him by half a million votes. nevertheless,

this Al Gore was not seen in '00 or else he'd have won by 5 million votes. The Al Gore who been on a speaking tour is the Gore who will be in the white house in just 6 short months

[karynnj]

35. How is that going to happen?

There won't be impeachment and conviction by November, 2006. So, it must be that you are assuming some kind of resignation, which I highly doubt will happen. Even if Bush/Cheney are thrown out, the speaker of the house is the President. You would need the following:

-The Democrats to win the House
-A Representative in the district where Al now lives to give up his seat
-Al would have to win the special election
-The Democrats would have to make Al Speaker
-Bush and Cheney resign

As your saying November, the easiest way to have everything in place would be if Al Gore ran for the House seat now.

There is no constitutional way to rectify a stolen election over 5 years ago - or 5 months ago (for that matter).

[goodboy]

67. I'm sorry, I meant that he'd be President again in 2008..i mistakenly

posted 'o6 because I was talking about it in another thread, and I've been up all night.

sorry, I'm a jackass.

[Recursion]

102. Not his district

You don't have to live in the district you're representing, just the state. For that matter, states aren't even required to have Congressional districts. They could just have every Congressman stand for an at-large election if they wanted.

[Apollo11]

33. bowens43 for President !!!

I mean - seeing as how nobody else seems to be good enough for you ...

And seeing as how Al Gore is (according to you) the one to blame for the media focusing on stuff like what colors he was wearing, and spreading lies about his "tendency to exaggerate" and how he "claimed he invented the internet" ...

:eyes:

[Uncle Joe]

65. Al Gore is the same Al Gore that empowered you,

when he championed the internet. The MSM trashed and slandered him for this because they wanted to remain the sole gate keepers to the truth and this is his reward for helping you. He is the same Al Gore that warned us about the dangers from global warming almost thirty years ago. He is the same Al Gore that fought the election/coup of 2000 longer than anyone in American History. He is the same Al Gore that warned us against going to war with Iraq in Sept. 2002, thereby taking our focus and much needed resources away from hunting the real terrorists behind 9/11. He is the same Al Gore that helped to rescue 270 patients, doctors and victims stranded in a New Orleans Hospital. He is the same Al Gore that is currently trying to save the planet for your children and grandchildren, by changing our economic model from it's cannibalistic self to a sustainable one.

It is the times that have changed, all the media B.S. about Al running a poor campaign is their fig leaf covering their own complicity in enabling Bush to power. The amazing thing is that in spite of all the MSM's efforts to slander, demean, obfuscate or ignore the real Al Gore, he won.

[ShortnFiery]

31. I'm there, If Gore runs, I'll even volunteer to help get him elected. n/t

[bunkerbuster1]

34. Here is why the RW think Al Gore is KRAY-ZEE

last night en route home from work I heard Michael Medved informing the world that Al Gore, if he were a republican, would've been drummed out of ear/eyeshot due to his mental deficiencies. But because Al Gore is a Democrat, his "craziness" is welcomed.

Why do the RW think Al Gore is "crazy?" Paraphrasing--

1) "He proposed spending 160 million dollars to beam a sattelite image of Earth to a 24-hour news channel." I realize there is some semblance of truth to this claim, I believe Al had talked about the usefulness of having such an image available. Where the "$160million" figure came from, I'm sure must be Karl Rove's ass.

2) "He sounds like a goat." Medved played a soundbite, into which they'd spliced goat bleats, where Al seemed to be swallowing some of his words.

This is, apparently, the sum total of why Al Gore is KRAY-ZEE.

These idiots have run with less.

Al, please, I'm asking you nicely: Come back and smite these fools. Smack them down. We know you can.

[Rowdyboy]

36. Al Gore is a fine man but I REALLY want a fresh face in 2008.....

I'd so like to move beyond the 1990's with a new personality who hasn't already been stereotyped by the MSM.

[OneBlueSky]

37. I agree that he'll get the MOST VOTES . . . and by a large margin . . .

but that DOES NOT mean that he'll win . . . (see 2000 and 2004 for precedents) . . .

[Tom Rinaldo]

39. If the 'new' Al Gore runs, he'll win. Period?

This type thread is asking for trouble. The OP I respond to asks me to explain my reasons if I happen to disagree with that contention. That means giving a run down of the negatives I think might hurt Al Gore's chances if he runs. We haven't even had the mid term elections yet and Democrats have to pull together for that, so no, I won't detail all of my reasons for why Gore is NOT a shoo-in. Gore is a good and strong Democrat and we need many more like him.

However no one will simply win if they run, period. Period. Gore has real strengths, but he has real weaknesses also. A lot of people who are not deeply issue oriented just do not warm up to Al Gore easily. 2000 should have been a route for the Democrats, the nation wasn't even using electronic voting machines then. George W. Bush by all measures was a relatively weak opponent. Al Gore was not very popular with most Americans, and it's not because they never got the chance to know him. The "Old Gore" used to come off to many people as "wooden". So bring on the "New Gore". Now Gore alternates coming across as "wooden" with coming off as "sweaty", to many voters who do not key in strongly on the issues (and unfortunately DUer's are not representative of many Americans when it comes to how closely we follow issues). And while "the issues" should favor Gore again in 2008, that can be said for most of the Democrats considering running. Now me, I love it when Al works up a good sweat denouncing the Bush Administration. But I am not a typical voter.

Al Gore lost his home state of TN while running as a sitting VP, after having served TN as a multi term Senator, as the heir to a popular TN political family dynasty, and it wasn't because people in that state rejected the more Liberal "New Gore". Al Gore mostly hadn't become the "New Gore" yet. In many ways the "Old Gore" should have been able to win his home state easier than the "New Gore". "Old" or "New", there were a lot of states that Al Gore should have won easily in 2000 that he didn't. The United States was prosperous and at Peace.

The simple fact that people can now so openly talk about an "Old Gore" and a "New Gore" should give us a clue about where some of his potential trouble will come from. Generally in American politics it is a potent weapon to use against someone, if they can easily be caricatured as reinventing themselves to change with changing political winds. Even though I do not think that charge is fair against Gore, it will be made. Repeatedly.

It wasn't long ago that Gore picked Joe Lieberman out of all of the Democrats in the nation, to try to elevate to the Vice Presidency. Had the 2000 election not been stolen, chances are very good that Lieberman would be well into his second term as Vice President now and locking up the Presidential nomination for 2008. Al Gore wasn't just reaching for a politically shrewd maneuver when he picked Lieberman. Gore knew Lieberman very well personally, Gore knew exactly who he would be elevating into the White House by choosing Joementum, his eyes were wide open.

Gore was among the founders of the DLC and he worked closely with Lieberman for years in the Senate and in the Clinton Administration. Either Gore hasn't changed much since 2000 when he was obviously comfortable picking Lieberman, in which case there really is no "New Gore" which would make the OP moot, or Gore has changed significantly in six years, in which case the Republicans and other Democrats can mine mountains of materials from Gore's recent "Old Gore" political past to use against him in the standard "flip flop" line of attack.

Having said that, I do like Gore, and he is among three Democrats who I would be happy to see win the nomination. Gore ranks third in my current personal line up.

[FrenchieCat]

41. It doesn't work that way.....

I don't think that it's gonna be quite that easy for Gore...who right now "sounds" great, because he is not really running, and nostalgia IS a weird thing. I understand that memory usually filters out the things we'd rather not remember.

If Al Gore chose to run, don't think it will be a slam dunk; it won't.

New Gore/Old Gore? That in itself is fodder that will be exploided.

Not saying that it dooms him--just saying that a victory Utopia will not be found in an Al Gore Candidacy......no matter how rehabilitated he might be.

And a real important question is, do the majority of 2006 candidates running on the Dem side believe that an endorsement or an appearance with Al Gore will help their chances? If many candidates in the Red Districts, in particular (which are the seats that we must win to regain a majority), don't think so.....that's not a good Omen for Al Gore's possible appeal to all of America, even if the progressive left now loves the New and Improved Al Gore.

So no....it is not that simple.

I believe that If Al Gore runs, he may not win.

[Dunvegan]

43. Remember that "Tanned, Rested, and Ready: The New Nixon in 68!" won.

In 1968 Nixon looked like a strong former vice president who'd sidestepped the frey of Vietnam since the campaign against Kennedy.

Nixon was seen as "wooden and unlikeable" (not a guy you'd want to have a beer with) in his run against Kennedy in 1960. By 1968 no one cared about his "wooden personality"...they just wanted someone with an entirely different direction and plan than the Johnson administration. Plus they sold Nixon as "The New Nixon: Tanned, Rested, and Ready."

Nixon was viable because he'd lost by the smallest margin (until the Gore/Bush election) in history. Many were now ready to try his solutions, and he'd already shown he could pick up almost enough votes against a popular Kennedy, who'd had a formidable machine at his disposal (the unions.) If the Bush Republican machine falls apart (the Religious Right base) it allows for a similar scenario.

Nixon was an incumbent VP who ran against a non-incumbent Kennedy in 1960 and lost by a narrow margin. His second run eight years later was against an incumbent VP, and Nixon won.

Nixon ran on the platform "Peace with Honor" because Americans were sick of the mess and mire Vietnam had become, and wanted someone to lead them out of the woods.

Anything Nixon could do, Gore can do better.

[FrenchieCat]

45. Comparing Al Gore to Richard Nixon is really doing an injustice to

Al Gore.

I just don't think that Al Gore is a "shoe-in" at all. And the big question is, would he win Tennessee this time...not can he win our Democratic primaries?

[janx]

47. The comparison to Nixon is once of circumstance,

if I'm reading the post correctly. It's viable.

[janx]

73. I meant ONE of circumstance--sorry Frenchie.

I've been posting too much lately. :crazy:

[martymar64]

46. I agree with your assessment

Gore can run simply against the dreadful legacy of the *Co Administration and capitalize on the fatigue that 4 years of War Without End has wrought, not to mention scandals ad nauseum and the investigations following the midterm elections that will uncover even more that haven't yet seen the light of day.
Additionally, An Inconvenient Truth is due for release on May 24th. This will increase his visibility in a big, positive way and remind people why they voted for him in the first place.
I would give him my vote again happily, just don't choose Joementum or Hillary as a running mate. Pick someone that people can get excited about like Clark or my personal favorite, Brian Schweitzer.

That's my dos centavos.

[Tom Rinaldo]

70. Nixon also came within a hair of losing in 1968. Anti war Dems...

were not very enthusiastic about Humphrey who was still saddled with LBJ's legacy. Wallace drew a lot of centrist and right leading Democratic votes in 1968 which at that point helped Nixon greatly, because the South at that point was not yet ready to vote for a Republican. Still it was a real squeaker for Nixon in 1968. After Humphrey put some distance between himself and LBJ on Viet Nam, his campaign rebounded and he was closing rapidly on Nixon when Election Day came.

I too am not saying Gore can't win, I think he's actually in a significantly better place than Kerry who is generally thought of as having been a loser more recently than Gore (although most of us here would dispute both of those losses). But Gore is far from being an easy winner. His disapproval rating numbers with the general public are still very high.

[goodboy]

88. nice post...and great comparison...except for Nixon being a cheap, lying,

no-good, rotten, four-flushing, low-life, snake-licking, dirt-eating, inbred, overstuffed, ignorant, blood-sucking, dog-kissing, brainless, dickless, hopeless, heartless, fat-ass, bug-eyed, stiff-legged, spotty-lipped, worm-headed sack of monkey shit!

[janx]

44. He's still very much the same guy, but he will not

be "handled" by "consultants" and DLC types if he runs again.

All the better.

[goodboy]

86. did you happen to see some of the speeches he's given lately?

THAT Al Gore gives me goosebumps when I hear him speak And he sounds STRONG and TOUGH and will appeal to those "hoo-rah" - I open beer cans with my handgun- types/

[koopie57]

91. I think you nailed it

Last time he was listening to others. This time I think he'll just let the chips fly and take no prisoners. He will also pick a running mate with as much moxie and he has, which I hope is Kucinich. I hope he runs cuz I think he will not let any lie go unanswered or any slimy media whore or republican piece of butt wipe get away with anything. I think he will leave them shaking in their boots. I think he is 8 years old, and wiser through experience and mistakes. Unlike the weasal in the white house now, he learns through mistakes.

[IntravenousDemilo]

107. No no, it's Chimpy who's 8 years old.

We're talking mental age here, right?

:evilgrin:

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

48. I think he's got a good chance. Probably the best chance.

I hope he runs again. He ditched Lieberman, of course, so that's a plus. I'm hoping he ditches some of his advisors, because I thought the people who ran his campaign stunk it up.

[0007]

49. bttft

[Radical Activist]

50. flip-flop, flip-flop

The Republicans won't even have to buy new props for their next convention.

[goodboy]

85. they wouldn't have the flow to anyway..criminal defense atty's ain't cheap

[windbreeze]

51. Yeah, I disagree...

Why?? Because anyone who thinks that there are any guarantees, in the current political spectrum.....is not thinking clearly...I am not falling into the Gore deserves it, Gore earned it, Gore was elected in 2000 trap...I don't care, it's in the past, it cannot be changed, and it's redundant....I think we need to look forward, instead of backward...

By 2008 things will have changed, the landscape could be even more scarred..depending on what happens at midterms....but one thing is for sure, nothing will be the same as it was in 2000, when Gore chose to run..(no one held a gun to his head and forced him to do so, he could have waited for 4-8 years, and took the time to distance himself from Clinton)...personally, I almost think we will be lucky to find anyone who really has the ability to straighten out the mess this bunch has gotten us into..and if we have 10/12 who want to run, just for the hell of it, or for the recognition or for whatever reason they throw their hat into the ring, then I hope there is one in the bunch we can nominate...one that we can be confident, truly has the ability to walk the walk, as well as talk the talk...and from what I see so far, I'm getting worried...

I didn't care for Gore in the 8 years prior to 2000, so when he ran, he did NOT impress me in the least..has he changed? Well, I think once you get to a certain age...it's pretty hard to "change"...you can alter your outward appearance....but underneath you are the same old basic you..Nixon can be mentioned many times, but nothing changes the fact that he was also forced to resign once he managed to get elected to the WH.....it is going to take someone with a lot of fire, mental stability, and even more common sense, to take over the job of president in 2008...I almost feel sorry for whomever it might be....unless it's Jeb...(and sad to say, that's exactly who I think it's going to be, no matter who we run....because it really depends on who counts the votes)and for now...we know who's in control of that part..
windbreeze

edited to clarify a thought...

[janx]

52. Gore has more experience than any other potential

candidate. He won in 2000, and he'll win in a landslide this time. The lack of the Nader factor alone will give him a big boost.

Why are you worried?

[windbreeze]

54. Look

All I am saying is that I am one, who is not now, and has never been impressed with Gore...maybe in the future, he can change my mind...that remains to be seen....

We need to get past 2006 before we promote any one person...to the point of nominee...whatever happens in Nov of this year, is going to set the stage for 2008...but when justifying this guy or that guy...let's look forward instead of backward...get away from saying he deserves it, he won it, he was robbed....no one deserves anything...including Gore...IF he wants it...then let him convince everyone he's the best man for the job...and let him work for it...I was never convinced he really wanted it last time...

Why am I worried...well, the field is not too impressive to me, right now..yes, there appears to be a lot of good men who want to give it a shot, however, being good is not good enough...we are going to need to run an exceptional man...and not saying man or woman, because I think we are NOT ready for a woman at this time....and worried also, because we still do NOT have control of vote counting...and everyone knows, the vote counter, is the most important part of the equasion when it comes to winning...
windbreeze

[janx]

58. I'm not saying he deserves it, won it, was robbed, etc.--

just that he is extremely well qualified.

If what you're worried about is voter fraud, we have the same problem to solve regardless of who runs for president in 2008, yes?

[marions ghost]

68. Jeb

:rofl: Jeb :rofl: Jeb :rofl:

Gore has plenty of fire, mental stability, common sense. Gore has what it takes. There are several other Dems who would also be reasonable candidates, but I think Gore has the edge. He's got the wisdom, intelligence & experience to get us out of this mess and begin (begin!) to turn this country around.

[janx]

69. I missed that on first read...

:rofl:

JEB

[Brigid]

56. I like, no LOVE Al Gore.

I voted for him, and will happily do so again. I want to cry when I see him speaking so forcefully and eloquently now. Let the right mock him; if they're afraid of him, they have good cause. After eight years of the worst president ever, people may at last be ready to give him his due when 2008 gets here.

[Freddie Stubbs]

57. Which Al Gore is the real Al Gore?

The new one? The one that ran in 2000?

[NYCGirl]

62. The one you're seeing now.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-29385328971143264&q=al+gore

[TallahasseeGrannie]

60. If he announced he was running

I would break down and cry with relief.

[Scriptor Ignotus]

61. are we talking with or without the beard?

i effing loved that beard. It was the first time in a LONG time a prominent politician clearly didn't give a shittake about the press or the public's opinion. It was just Al Gore doing as he pleased for a few weeks, handlers be damned.

If he operates like that I think he'll win. If not, he won't.

The way 2006 shakes out will play a huge role in all of this too.

[goodboy]

94. This Al Gore:

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/01/16.html#a6728

[The HL]

64. WHAT ABOUT DIEBOLD ???????????????????????

They won't mention it. They are losers, they will lose again. So will the USA, to bad the Dems don't care about the people.

[goodboy]

87. May the spirit of Andy Stephenson inspire us all to fight for

voter verified paper ballots.

[IndianaGreen]

72. Gore is the best qualified candidate for President

as long as he doesn't take Lieberman again on the ticket!

[simonm]

74. Gore has my vote

He is a fighter and actually cares about regular folks. He has my vote if he runs.

[ChiciB1]

75. I'm A HUGE Edwards Fan... But I Saw A Poll At Another News Group

and Gore was the front runner, beating Hillary 2 to 1! Let's NOT forget, Gore DID really win in 2000. I would love to see him pick Edwards if he gets the nod. That would really "rock" for me!

Come on, just think about it... and I've done this little history note many times before... BUT, we had Bush, Clinton-Clinton, Bush-Bush so now we should elect ANOTHER Clinton?? Talk about monopolies, this is a bit strange.

And not only is Hillary doing a GRAND job of kissing any ass that comes down the pike, today she praises The Idiot!

NO THANK YOU!!

[janx]

76. Are you referring to the Nashua Advocate Poll?

http://nashuaadvocate.blogspot.com/2005/05/nashua-advocate-2008-presidential-poll.html

?

[paulk]

78. the question is - which Al Gore will the MSM let you see?

that was part of Al Gore's problem last time. It's going to be any Democrats problem in 2008, really.

It will be an uphill battle for him, if he decides to run - he's already been painted as a guy who changes his personality - the "new" Al Gore will fit right into the meme.

[NYCGirl]

80. Ah, but the great thing is he has a whole movie coming out that shows him

as the real deal.

[paulk]

81. That will be a good start

but, will any but the faithful see it?

And, I'm willing to bet that the MSM will describe the "real" Al Gore, the one revealed in the movie, as just a continuation of their "who is the real Al Gore" storyline.

I'm not trying to be negative here, I'm just trying to be a realist as to the possible ways the MSM will try to distort this.

[goodboy]

93. I think that would backfire on the pukes in a millisecond/ think about

who the pukes could run

Frist: Against stem cells, for stem cells...

Guiliani: Too many flipflops to count, plus this bastien of moral clarity is on his...what, 12th marriage?

nevertheless, I believe that Gore's too smart to fall for that swhit. Ignore it, hammer the repukes to kingdom come.

And, with any luck, Rove will be sitting in a 12 x 8 by then

[lildreamer316]

79. He is the ONLY VIABLE OPTION.

The sooner we all realize that, the better. Sorry,I'm not moving on this.
I see Edwards or Clarke as VP; not so sure on that.I'd love Edwards;but I don't know if that's winnable.

[robcon]

82. If he's the only viable option, we're screwed.

He's got a lot of negatives to overcome. He's a good man, but he's not our only option. Hillary will be the next president, IMO. She, unlike Al, is a great campaigner.

[NYCGirl]

84. If Rudy Giuliani hadn't dropped out of the senatorial race in NY because

of his prostate cancer, he would have beaten Hillary. She's not that great a campaigner.

[goodboy]

89. If they run Hillary, she may be the next Dem. president, but not until

2012 or later.

the pukes are practically beggins us to run her.

Gore will be the Dark Horse.

He will stomp those shit-kicking redneck racist warmongering nazi's back to their primitive baptist churches and cross burnings.

[Douglas Carpenter]

92. I do believe Al Gore would be the strongest possible candidate

and I say this in total dispassion since I have very conflicted feelings regarding him.

[goodboy]

95. watch this, and tell me what you think

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/01/16.html#a6728

[Douglas Carpenter]

98. I'm very impressed with the speeches Al Gore has made over the past

couple of years.

I'm concerned about his thinking regarding:

1. Neoliberal economics. Would he still support NAFTA or CAFTA type deals? I don't know. Would he be inclined to support single payer universal health care? I don't know.

2. Militaristic global hegemony. I'm glad he opposed the war in Iraq. But would he be inclined to support an attack on Iran? I don't know. Would he lead America in the direction of more imperial wars or would he be inclined to lead us away from such madness? I don't know.

3. What would be his current thinking regarding the Israeli/Palestinian conflict. Would Mr. Gore try his best to be an honest broker at least as much as political realities would allow? I don't know.

But like I said. I do believe he would be the strongest likely candidate in 2008.

[goodboy]

99. yup. It'll be hard enough for the Pukes to deploy a mass-amnesia device

to attempt to get us all to forget everything about the previous 8 years...well, everything except 911. They'll make sure we never EVER forget that. And that's without having to deal with a powerful, intelligent, articulate, charismatic, revitalized real American hero. Oh, and also that we have the truth and the FACTS on our side, and they're a bunch of lying sacks of monkey shit.

I think Al sees the devastation the free trade agreements have caused us..shit, Helen Keller could see that. And I've heard him talk about universal health care for all.

I believe he'll use the military wisely, respectfully, and only in matters of either extreme danger to us, or to protect and defend our allies. I don't think he'll be spreading freedom and democracy with 1000lb bombs and depleted U.

as for the arab/israeli conflict. I believe he'll bring back trust and respect and credibility to the discussion, and that's what's been missing all along. and I'm sure, peace won't be far behind

[goodboy]

104. maybe that's why Frist's now coming out for stem cells...they plan

to infect us with mad cow, or avian fear, er...flu, and the only cure will be stem cells, a'la Escape from New York

[AlinPA]

96. I disagree. The broadcast media has built him as joke. No way he can

overcome all the caricatures of him, esp. the comedy shows. Sad, I know. A great man destoyed by the media.

[AtomicKitten]

97. I would venture to say

Al Gore would kick the every lovin' shit out any opponent for a myriad of reasons. Dems are dying for a leader, and Al Gore's strong, outspoken, populist move to the left over the last several years is the medicine that will heal America.

RE-ELECT GORE 2008

[goodboy]

100. I would ventrue to say

you gave me goosebumps ;)

[DemonGoddess]

101. One of the things I most appreciate about

what we see Al Gore doing now, is it seems very much as he's gone back to the way he USED to be as a young senator. :D

[Odin2005]

105. The New Al is awesome!

Now he just needs to grow the beard back. :evilgrin:

[fortyfeetunder]

109. As long as he continues on the roll

he's got it made. No more Mr. Nice Guy. Kick :kick: .