Lieberman polling very well

[skipos]

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/2006/State%20Polls/April%202006/Connecticut%20Senate%20April.htm

Joe Lieberman (D) 59%
Paul Streitz (R) 23%

Joe Lieberman (I) 47%
Ned Lamont (D) 20%
Paul Streitz (R) 17%

I want Lamont in the senate, but I sure don't see much evidence of Lieberman's support dwindling. His approval ratings in SurveyUSA are really good too.

[BrklynLiberal]

1. puke! cough! gag! blech!

What is wrong with the people in CT??

[ramapodem]

3. Think on state terms.....

he may have really good constituent services

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[skipos]

4. They aren't as progressive as DUers, in my opinion.

DU doesn't represent your average democrat, again, in my opnion.
It is the same reason Nelson's approval ratings in Nebraska are so high (the highest in the nation according to SurveyUSA) but DUers generally don't dig him.

[SoFlaJet]

9. He friggin

SUCKS!!!!-he did nothing to defend MY voting rights down here in Florida during the 2000 debacle-an election I was NOT allowed to vote in because of some fine work by that Texas company purging my name off the rolls-and the GOP operative making fake phone calls trying to"straighten it out" for me on a constantly busy cell phone.OK-they won that time but I will never ever vote for a republican again-and I have before...Oh yea Joe Lieberma?He refused to believe this creap was going on,even when Randi Rhodes was telling him the facts on the ground here.He did nothing...

[w4rma]

34. Name recognition. 90% of CT voters haven't heard of Lamont. Everyone knows

Lieberman. It's nothing more than name recognition. Lamont needs more resources to be able to get his name out and overcome years of incombancy.

Note that if Lamont won the primary, the nationwide news surge would likely give him that name recognition, assuming big media doesn't censor coverage of him.

[ananda]

2. Why?

Is there a pro-fascist agent in CT's drinking water?

[bigscott]

5. funny thing is

he spends ZERO time in CT - and the people still love this DINO. unfuckingbelievable

[Rose Siding]

7. Ned trailed by 55% a couple of months ago

So he's gaining.

And don't forget, Lieberman had a huge lead in NH this far out from the last pres primary. It crumbled.

[Mr_Spock]

8. I guess he's got Kennedy invincibility in Connecticut

:puke:

[killerbush]

10. Don't forget the Quinnipiac vote either, Joe 65% Ned 19%

Maybe the fact that Joe is up by such a big margin is because they see Lamont as what he is, a phantom of the blogs, and only 15% of Ct voters will not vote for Lieberman because of war stance.

[goclark]

11. Maybe Joey was in with DIEBOLD in 2000

He is suspect to me in every way now.

I think he was talking to BushCONS in 2000.

Am I way off base or are the Democrats in that area asleep at the wheel?

[skipos]

14. Ya know, Diebold isn't to blame for everything.

Right or wrong, it seems like CT legitimately likes the guy.

[goclark]

16. That is too bad, how could they like Joey?

He is so transparent.

[BigYawn]

48. Obviously Joementum is a main-stream democrat and that

is what they want in CT.

[Douglas Carpenter]

58. mainstream????? he supports NAFTA. CAFTA and

neoliberal economics. Not only does he support the war in Iraq and would almost certainly support a military attack on Iran he stands solidly behind Bush and the neocons and supports a militarist worldview that is just plain downright loony!

There is nothing mainstream about that at all!

Still if voters have been conditioned not to care about issues and vote only on image, he may likely win.



http://www.dontattackiran.org

[dmkinsey]

12. This highlights the difficulty of the mid-term election

It doesn't matter what YOU(unless of course you live in CT)think of the Connecticut Senator, it matters what the voters of Connecticut think of their Senator. Apparently they think he's OK.

National polls show that people are unhappy with the Republican controlled Congress. These polls don't tell us what they think of their own Representatives. It doesn't follow automatically that voters will vote their Reps out.

[cyberpj]

13. Too bad. No way Bush machine w/let him lose anyway.... nt

[caligirl]

17. Joe is against the disastrous Enzi Lose Your Health bill, if that is any

consolation.

[IndianaGreen]

18. Holy Joe has strong GOP support in CT

Why is Lieberman shown as an independent?

[Freddie Stubbs]

20. He also has strong Democratic support

[lojasmo]

22. Nope. Strongest support is from REpugs and indies.

democratic support is lowest of the three groups.

[rinsd]

23. 60% approval from Democrats is nothing to sneeze at

And the difference between that and his support from GOP and Ind is fairly small (5% or so)

That he also draws heavily across all political lines speaks to how the people of Connecticut see him.

On edit: for clarification I am using the recent Quinnipac poll

http://www.courant.com/news/nationworld/hc-appoll0503.artmay03,0,6212407.story?coll=hc-headlines-nationworld

[Zynx]

39. 60% from your own party blows.

[rinsd]

40. Blows from progressive standpoint but not for his re-elect chances

[Zynx]

42. I didn't say that it did hurt his re-elect chances.

I was merely commenting on the fact that it speaks to what a Republican loving bastard he is that he has a higher approval rating from Republicans than Democrats.

[Freddie Stubbs]

25. It's strong enough to win the primary by a comfortable margin

[killerbush]

26. You're right Freddie

I wish more people saw the light like you do.

[IndianaGreen]

43. Here is the light: Holy Joe will never vote to impeach or censure Bush

He will never support a US troop withdrawal from Iraq as Murtha, Feingold, and Kerry are advocating, and he will be an enthusiastic advocate of new wars against Iran, Syria, Hizbollah, etc.

Holy Joe supports Bush's "unitary presidency" power grab, and further infringements of our civil liberties.

[onenote]

24. shown as independent in hypothetical 3-way race

[bdamomma]

19. What is with the people in Connecticut

they don't want a change from Liebermann kiss up to bush. very sad. this would be like voting for chafee again in RI, he should just move on also. they should have term limits on senators.

[Jack Rabbit]

21. We should not expect Lamont to win

However, if he forces Lieberman to explain himself, he's done his job.

There are two reasons to run for public office:

• To win; or
• To discuss public issues.

Lieberman has not given a statisfactory explanation of his support for the war in Iraq. He has not been forced to do so. The war is clearly a policy failure and the reasons for it were clearly bogus. Moreover, the war is identified with Bush and, therefore, support for the war is support for Bush. A leading Democratic senator should explain to his constituants why he should continue to represent them as a Democrat while supporting Bush's war.

[CTLawGuy]

27. If you looked at 2003 Dem presidential primary polls

it looked like Lieberman was going to win in a cake walk.

Thats not how it turned out, is it?


Remember 2 things:

1. It is 3 months from a primary, and 6 months from a midterm election. At this point people are not paying attention to the race and are voting on name recognition only. Lieberman is the only name most people recognize at this point.

2. Ned Lamont has a 9% name rec figure. that's to be expected. He is new to politics, he has NOT been on TV and it is 3 months out from the primary. among those who have heard of him, he has a 6 to 1 favorability advantage with 2 on the fence. and in the Q poll, he wins 19% of the vote, more than DOUBLE those who know who he is and more than triple those who know and like him.

As Ned gets on TV and gets his petition drive going, his numbers will increase. Joe's numbers according to the survey USA poll have been falling among independents and democrats (not republicans).

3 months, in a state of 3 million people is plenty of time.

This will be a race.

[killerbush]

28. Hate to burst your bubble darboy

Ned doesn't have very much money for TV ads. Lieberman's numbers have indeed fallen, but not enough to make such a difference. I admit, it will get closer, but I still think Lieberman wins rather easily.

[iconoclastNYC]

29. TV ads are over rated

This is a low turn out primary election. Grass roots activism is much more important then TV ads.

[killerbush]

30. Nancy Johnson is already running TV ads

I wonder if she's worried??

[iconoclastNYC]

32. Why is she?

And how does this relate to Lamont?

[CTLawGuy]

38. do you think Joe needs independents to win the primary?

will they put Joe over the top?

[riona]

36. Rec'd this email today

"NEW HAVEN - Ned Lamont's United States Senate campaign opens a New Haven office this week. The public and press are invited to an Open House Thursday, May 4 at 5 p.m. at the new office on 205 Church St., Suite 501.

After a brief welcome and address from Annie Lamont, Ned's wife, campaign staff will continue training volunteers to collect petitions to ensure Lamont's presence on the August 8 primary ballot".

Maybe this will help things along.

[rinsd]

41. I'm not sure if that's enough time...

The name recognition at this point is an issue because it will affect his ability to raise money later. Now I realize money can come in fast and furious but will it?

And what do you mean by petition drive? Is he doing an impeachment petition?

[Bryan]

31. I may be misinterpreting this poll, but

Does Streitz' six-point slip in the three-way matchup suggest that Lamont is pulling from the R pile as well?

[Zhade]

33. If true, I'm disappointed by his constituents.

Apparently, undying support for illegal wars doesn't bother those who support him.

[Freddie Stubbs]

35. Not everyone is a one-issue voter

[Zhade]

45. Yeah, and not everyone's ethical, either.

What's your point - that it's silly to be so opposed to illegal wars that support for same should be overlooked in favor of commonly-held positive domestic ideals?

Forget it - there are plenty of people in the world who hold the domestic stances Lieberman does (sans the "freedom of religion doesn't mean freedom from religion" crap) that DON'T support illegal wars, and if I were in CT, I'd vote for one of THEM.

If it was something a little less world-endangering (not to mention morally and ethically reprehensible) as supporting the illegal invasion and occupation of a country that didn't attack us, you might have a point. But, based on your posting history, you don't - not one that resonates with THIS liberal progressive, anyway.

[Freddie Stubbs]

55. My point is that the war is not the most important issue with most voters

Perhaps most CT voters don't see the world as you do.

[wyldwolf]

54. only 15% of Conn. voters are...

"Most Connecticut voters, 57 percent, know Lieberman supports the war in Iraq, but only 15 percent would vote against a candidate based only on his position on the war.

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x11362.xml?ReleaseID=909

[ihelpu2see]

37. Its early yet and on May 22nd Lamont will be picking up lots of

delegates

[AX10]

44. Lieberman is better than Streitz.

I'll take Lieberman or Lamont. Which ever one can hold the seat, I will support.

[Clarkie1]

46. Bottom line: I don't live in Connecticut.

It's not my fight.

[CTLawGuy]

47. but Lieberman makes decisions that involve your money

and laws that bind you. So in a way, it is your fight. You might not be able to vote, but you can help convince CT people of who to vote for.

[Clarkie1]

56. Eh...I'm not sure I'd appreciate Connecticut voters telling me what

Democrat I should support in a primary. It might feel kind of insulting or condescending. As if they didn't think I understood the issues and the candidates in my own state, and needed to be informed by them.

I do understand your point, however.

[CTLawGuy]

60. then don't talk

you can always send money...


www.nedlamont.com

[AtomicKitten]

49. In the words of Stephen Colbert:

"We know that polls are just a collection of statistics that reflect what people are thinking in "reality."

If this is the consensus of his constituents, so be it. It isn't up to us with our faces pressed on the glass to impugn their intelligence.

[madfloridian]

50. He says ok for hospitals to withhold contraceptives to rape victims.

"Lieberman said he believes hospitals that refuse to give contraceptives to rape victims for "principled reasons" shouldn’t be forced to do so.

"In Connecticut, it shouldn’t take more than a short ride to get to another hospital," he said.

Well Joe, that’s not very helpful. I mean, I know that you’ll never need emergency contraception at two o’clock in the morning after having been brutally raped. So I guess it’s easy for you to disregard any woman who is unlucky enough to have gone through that trauma"

http://www.firedoglake.com/category/lieberman/

[Imagevision]

51. Not according to ABC-CBS and CNN... Lieberman is down bigtime!

rasmussenreports? don't mean beans...!

[Awsi Dooger]

52. That's not even a race

Don't confuse DU sentiment with ballot box inevitability. An incumbent minus scandal isn't going to lose a primary within his own party. Less than ideal politics doesn't equate to scandal, or anything that will get Lieberman knocked out.

[JNelson6563]

53. Conneticut is far more stupid than I realized

What a shame that the stupidity of Conneticut is something we all will continue to pay the price for with this asshole in the Senate.

[CTLawGuy]

62. its 3 months out!

people don't even know there's a choice yet.

Members of Democratic town committees who will be appointing delegates to vote at this months' convention, are PISSED at Lieberman, all over the state.

They owe nothing to Lieberman and they are going to make it an interesting convention vote.

CT might be stupid, but we'll have to judge that on August 8th.

[LaPera]

57. Amazing how many people in Connecticut don't know or even give a fuck!

Liebermann is indeed a whore!

But...he'll slide thru... with another fucking re-election...Most can only hope that his whoring didn't made a difference..it will...Dumb fucks will vote for a name (they know) meaning this absolute pig of a "man" and think they did well voting for a 'Dem" as he used and abused every concept of what a democrat is all about...Fucking Conn.

Chalk one up to people who just don't pay attention...personally, I'd rather be sailing. FUCK!

Liebermann, what a truly sickening, disgusting piece of shit.

I'd rather see a republican in his place, then at least we'd know the fucker will be sucking off Bush on cue...Liebermann pretends to be a democrat...you ever seen a lying face and smile that needs more of a bitch-slapping?

[CTLawGuy]

59. give people a chance, its early yet

wait till after the May 19th - 21st convention, and we'll see what is up.

[jonnyblitz]

61. no shit. my sister and I are registered CT DEMS are we are so

damn happy we have an alternative to that fucking chickenhawk asshole in the primary. I am a navy vet and I DO NOT appreciate his support of this illegal war and the misuse of the troops. Even if he wins, which he mostly likely will because of the IGNORANCE of the CT voters, at least I will be able to sleep at night knowing i voted against that rat bastard.