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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 05:17 PM
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So it appears that Clark hasn't won a state...that's what I'm getting
by reading a lot of the threads. We have folks watching Fox and it sounds good for Edwards, we have people watching CNN and they are talking about Clark dropping out.

Am I getting the mood correct? I just wanna be sure cuz I don't want to get it wrong?
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justinpower Donating Member (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 05:19 PM
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1. I think
he is winning in Okla, not watching the tube so cant comment on that
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funky_bug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 05:20 PM
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2. When do they close?
The polls, I mean? Will they stagger in at any certain time?
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Kimber Scott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 05:28 PM
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16. The polls close in AZ at 7:00 pm. n/t
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 05:31 PM
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22. that'll be 9:00 Eastern, I believe
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 05:37 PM
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31. it's going to be a long night :)
MO and OK are an hour behind EST, right?
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 05:32 PM
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25. it's 3:30pm in AZ right now...so 3.5 hours to go :)
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 05:20 PM
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3. I can't get any information, just spin!
After I got home from work I was hoping for something on this board, but NADA!
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Kimber Scott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 05:22 PM
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4. It's too early
Edited on Tue Feb-03-04 05:25 PM by Kimber Scott
There is no reason to disregard the votes of of 96% of this country based on what 4% of the voters have so far done. It's still too early for anyone to throw in the towel, or declare a winner. I went and cast my vote, this morning, for General Clark here in Arizona. I would like to think it matters. The media is not going to pick the winner. Nor, is New Hampshire and Iowa. We all are. All states. All voters.

Edited for spelling errors.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 05:23 PM
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5. Please gimme somma what you're smokin ;) n/t
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Kimber Scott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 05:26 PM
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11. Why? n/t
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Nashyra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 05:24 PM
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7. MSNBC has Clark ahead in exit polls
twice in the last 45 min MSNBC has had a little blurb on exit polls and they have both shown Clark ahead of Kerry one poll by 2% and the other by 1%
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 05:26 PM
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12. That's the best thing I've heard ALL day.
Thank You!

Go Wes!
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 05:30 PM
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17. Thanks for that info!
I'm grabbing for every tidbit!
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debsianben Donating Member (200 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 05:27 PM
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13. A nice change to hear a Clark Supporter Talking Like That....

....since, after all, that means that it would be OK to support "unrealistic" candidates like Kucinich or Sharpton or whoever since most states haven't voted yet even after today and it would be silly to predict how the rest of the states are going to vote based on the outcome in a few.

Right?
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Kimber Scott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 05:30 PM
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20. You're exactly right.
I'm sure there is some kind of formula campaigns go by to decide when they can't go on. I'm surprised Gephardt pulled out so soon. But, gees, I'd like to think the other 48 states in this country matter as much as the two that have already voted.
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democratreformed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 05:23 PM
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6. Something just occurred to me
Isn't it highly suspicious that the ONLY exit poll we are hearing about just happens to be in OKLAHOMA?!?!?
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funky_bug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 05:25 PM
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8. I'm right there with you
I believe no matter how hard they try to sink him, Wes' message gets through. If he quits after tonight, I will not blame him, but the general is in charge of the troops, and HE says when we quit. Until he calls me off the front lines, I'm still in it. Gotta go... phone calls to make ;)
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AndyP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 05:30 PM
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21. wow
Now THAT'S the way it should be. Good job soldier! I hope he doesn't drop out, I want to vote for him up here in Wisconsin
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 05:25 PM
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9. There are multple posts on this forum
that discuss exit polls from 5 states. Google a search and you find them also. Drudge has them. Kos has them.

Sometimes the conspiracy just isn't there.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 05:31 PM
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24. *crickets chirping*
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 05:30 PM
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19. Hullo! n/t
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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 05:26 PM
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10. Y'all are falling for the RW Traps...
Stay at work, watch news later. Let people vote. Stop listening to Drudge. Stop listening to Tucker. Stop getting down on yourselves. Clark is a good man. Let's let things play out. Keep calling. Keep driving people to the polls.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 05:33 PM
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27. Somehow RW news sources have become acceptable for
predicting dem primaries. Who'da thunk?
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 05:33 PM
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28. Thanks Jack!
I gotta go back to work tonight, but can check the Internet from time to time. Keep me posted, please!!
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SangamonTaylor Donating Member (537 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 05:27 PM
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14. early exit polls have a very tight 3 way race in OK
That was the state that Clark is supposed to be able to pull off a win. It'll probably be a late night (plus there are still around 3 and a half hours of the polls being open. People are about to get off work pretty soon here in central time zone.

All I really care about is for Edwards to win in SC by a significant margin (+5%).

Anything else is gravy.
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Kimber Scott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 05:44 PM
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33. My sister got exit polled up in Prescott, AZ
They asked her who she voted for and why - i.e. she agreed with her candidate's (Clark) policies, or he could beat Bush. They did the demographics thing and then asked if she would be disappointed if Kerry got the nomination. I thought that was a strange question. She said the poll had all of the networks' logos on it.

This is the first time I've ever known anybody who got polled for anything, besides which movie they went to see last weekend.
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jmaier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 05:28 PM
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15. xultar,
as an enthusiastic, fellow Clark supporter, I hate to say this but your threads are contributing mightily to this premature, possibly false conclusion.

Why don't you just wait until the results are in? :-)
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 05:31 PM
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23. Really, chill girl
Just a few more hours and you'll know. Nothing but anxiety will come from speculation.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 05:36 PM
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30. Effectively Chillin ;)
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 05:45 PM
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34. There you go!
Now, doesn't that feel better? Your guy is going to do fine. Remember, it's the delegates that matter.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 05:54 PM
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37. True, thanks for pulling me back from the brink!
I just got so angry all these posts about what Drudge said. I figured then why not just pronounce the man's campaign dead so I can go to dinner with my co-workers after work instead of home to watch the biased coverage.

Know what I'm sayin

Thanks again...
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 05:35 PM
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29. I'm trying to call attention to those who are posting RW news sources
as gospel here.

Some how in the last 5 hours RW news sources have become acceptable. They don't require any commentary of question. They are just accepted as accurate if they meet the particular slant of the poster.

That's fine. But Why not just post then that Clark lost. That is what they are trying to say by posting Drudge. When have we thought Drudge was acceptable?
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 05:38 PM
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32. I don't remember Clark supporters running around posting
Drudge and National Review as sources for exit polls last go around.

I don't remember any of us disrespecting candidates and their supporters that way. It makes me :puke:.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 05:30 PM
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18. Hang in there...
I wouldn't make anything of it til the votes are counted.

You are torturing yourself. Really..hang in there...
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 05:33 PM
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26. I hope that Clark wins OK or AZ, and I don't want Clark to drop out
:-(
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NewHampster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 05:45 PM
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35. then go Bowling and find out after people have voted
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 05:53 PM
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36. Keep the faith
Clark is a good man.
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