A comment both about Ava's supposedly "patriotic" and "Christian" attackers, and also those on DU who repeatedly post stuff like this:
The problem is that folks are always saying "they aren't REAL christians," but where is the chorus of "real christians" taking away their appropriation of the christian identity? Every time I ask this question the main answer I get is some varient of "real christians aren't vocal about it," but it just doesn't make sense to let someone you don't consider "real" take away your faith's identity so easily.
I doubt very much that this is the "main answer" you have been getting. It may well be the "main answer" you
want to get.
The "religious right" has been steadily and repeatedly criticized by mainstream and progressive Christian groups for their misappropriation of Christian beliefs since they first emerged as the "Moral Majority" in the early '80s. Mainstream denominations (by which I mean Roman Catholic, Episcopalian, Lutheran, Methodist, Congregationalist, American Baptist, etc., etc.) have issued countless statements undercutting the political/moral agenda of these groups. And organizations like Sojourners and Pax Christi have been active in directly criticizing the groups themselves, as well as their positions.
So, why do we get this continual refrain of "why don't 'real' Christians speak out?" I used to think it was because of media access -- most in the secular media aren't that involved in the workings of religious bodies, and will go toward the "brightest lights and loudest noises." And that, by and large, means the televangelists, most of whom are not associated with any Christian denomination, and who got their funding from a consortium of right-wing billionaires led by the Hunt brothers in the late '70s, in exchange for incorporating explicit right-wing political views in their "gospels." Let's face it, when it's time to find a sound bite on "what Christians think," is it easier to search out and read position papers from a Conference of Bishops or a General Convention, or turn on TBN and hear what Pat Robertson is saying? Particularly when the latter is likely to say something "controversial" (like calling for the assassination of Hugo Chavez) that will attract attention to your coverage?
But, while I think that the media's "televangelical captivity" has a lot to do with the problems we now face, I'm also beginning to realize that there's a symbiotic relationship between the right-wing televangelists and many left-wing secularists, particularly here on DU. To put it bluntly, most of said left-wing secularists harbor an intense dislike of Christianity and Christians
per se, and are automatically drawn to those in the Christian world who, like the televangelists, will reinforce their dislike. It's not that the "religious right" is all they
can see in Christianity; it's that the "religious right" is all they
want to see. Admitting that a) the vast majority of Christians are not fundamentalists, and b) that this majority, although occupying a broad spectrum on any given political issue, is far closer to us than to Falwell
et. al., would force them to reconsider their already-formed
animus against the Christian faith. It's far easier to tune out anyone that doesn't reinforce their Christian = "religious right" equation, and then respond to every observation to the contrary by asking why they have never heard "real Christians" protesting against the fundamentalists. The answer, all too often, is that they have never heard it because they really, really don't want to. :eyes: