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CTLawGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 05:19 PM
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Which is the better slogan to bring people into the Democratic Party?
1. Join the Democratic Party, where your voice matters!

or

2. Join the Democratic Party, where what you care about doesn't matter, so get behind the leadership-preferred candidate who can "win swing voters", sit down, and shut the fuck up.


Guess which slogan would best describe the party today... and guess under which one we'd have a stronger, more unified party.
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 05:22 PM
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1. Free beer!
Your first, obviously, but mine has a certain seductive charm to it.

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CTLawGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 05:24 PM
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4. I'm sold
:)
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 05:25 PM
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8. Put the "party" back into the democrats! n/t
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LiberalVoice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 05:26 PM
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10. Well you've got at least three votes.
Edited on Tue Apr-25-06 05:26 PM by LiberalVoice
oh its just so tasty
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 05:37 PM
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15. Michigan J. Frog!! I love that toon!!!!!! Guess that's four votes!
Edited on Tue Apr-25-06 05:39 PM by BrklynLiberal
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 05:54 PM
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18. It's a personal portrait. It's not easy being green.
But, it is easy being from Michigan. With one unfortunate caveat.

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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 05:57 PM
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20. Awwwww.
:grouphug:
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 05:22 PM
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2. We are quickly approaching the time when ...
... the only necessary Dem talking point will be:

"VOTE DEMOCRATIC. WHY? BECAUSE WE'RE NOT REPUBLICANS!"
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 05:25 PM
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7. Excellent!
And we could wear buttons too...


Not a Republican.
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Waya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 05:33 PM
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14. DEMS should run on the...
........Campaign Motto: 'WE SURE AS HELL CAN'T DO ANY WORSE'
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 05:23 PM
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3. "win swing voters"
:rofl:

Remind me again, why didn't the DLCDems "cross the aisle" on immigration reform?
:eyes:
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 05:24 PM
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5. "Before it's too late . . . . " n/t
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 05:25 PM
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6. Both Are Very Poor Slogans, Sir
The second is too long; the first conveys no political meaning whatever.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 05:26 PM
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11. Oh.Good.God
It was a joke! Cripes.
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CTLawGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 05:37 PM
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16. the second one being "too long" is your only complaint?
ok, we may have more problems than we anticipated.

As to the first slogan having no political meaning, you're right. but I think that the Democratic party should be about citizen participation and citizen control. Progressives and liberals will self select into the party as right wingers will be enamorated with the Republicans.

We live in a time of low motivation and participation, and that is because everything is controlled in washington. They tell us who to vote for, they knock out candidates the consultants don't like, and the people have no voice. It's either vote for the guy we choose or see the Repbulican win.

We need to give people a stake in who gets the D nomination. That's how you bring people back into the fold.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 06:02 PM
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23. Being Too Long, Sir
Edited on Tue Apr-25-06 06:03 PM by The Magistrate
Rules it out of court from the start: no one will read through it, therefore it cannot communicate anything, therefore whatever its meaning might be is wholly irrelevant to discussion of its worth as a slogan....
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CTLawGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 08:23 PM
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26. how about this in exchange for (2)
Join the democratic party:

we select, you fall in line!
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 05:25 PM
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9. join us or go to hell
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 05:28 PM
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12. How about, "Wanna ban gay marriage, or do you want the damn levees?" n/t
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 05:29 PM
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13. Similar to what NanceGreggs said...
Just plain ol' "Don't Vote Republican"

or

Democrats: The Un-Republicans
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ratzworth Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 05:45 PM
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17. I've seen others here told unequivocally...
...that, if they've been former Republicans, that 'we' don't need them in our party, they've been banned for their questions, and told to shut up their doubts. I've seen one poster tombstoned simply because someone was fussing about SUV's and she mentioned Kerry had 6 of them! That's the truth--and she got banned for it!

If you all want to entice moderate Republicans to inch over to our side, you're going to need to try wholly different methods. The nastiness here--especially toward newbies, and with those who disagree even slightly--is making us seem like a group of people with whom NOBODY would like to associate (and they're not.)



(taking out my flame-proof traveling suit.......)
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 05:54 PM
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19. With all due respect, DU is NOT a recruitment site, for the 1000th time.
Edited on Tue Apr-25-06 05:55 PM by blondeatlast
We are here to hash out our frustrations with the 2000 Selection (may I refer you to the Rules that I KNOW you read on your way into the site?! :hi:).

It has grown by leaps and bounds and evolved from there.

We don't play nice and I don't wanna play nice. My country was stolen on November 4, 2000 and this is my place of refuge.

And again with all due respect, one other thing, since I know you read the Rules pertaining to credible sources--can you give us all a little linky to the Kerry's 6 SUVs allegation?

We pretty much nailed that one in summer 3004 (as in, they are located in his different places of residence).

If DU turns you away from the good of your country, I'm sorry. But not too sorry, dammit.

Edit: They don't play nice at our rival site, either--and that's fine and dandy with me.
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ratzworth Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 05:58 PM
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21. That's fine.
Edited on Tue Apr-25-06 06:08 PM by ratzworth

Just as long as you know that 'not playing nice' has consequences.

(And I was responding to the OP who had mentioned attracting former GOPs. I simply mentioned a couple reasons why that won't happen.)

And P.S.--I'm very much FOR America and the Democrats, but nobody ever said I had to put up with unnecessary nastiness just so some weak sister can get his rocks off. I feel sorry for the newbies here that get blindsided by a 1000+ poster--and then get banned when they, very justifiably, try to answer or stand up for themselves. It's one thing not to 'play nice'--it's another thing to sucker punch someone and then run in the house.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 06:00 PM
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22. I believe the OP had his tongue firmly planted in his cheek.
:silly:
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CTLawGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 08:22 PM
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25. We will not survive
unless we are a party that

(1) provides an outlet for all views of our members to be expressed
(2) provides all democrats a fair chance to nominate a candidate who shares their views on whatever issues are important to them, no matter how insignificant to others that issue/those issues are, and even if the incumbent is a senior Democrat.
(3) has a leadership which stays out of primaries and does not arm twist candidates into or out of the race.

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3waygeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 06:32 PM
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24. Gotta be the second one...
After all, it's worked really well for the Rethugs.
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APPLE314 Donating Member (262 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 09:04 PM
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27. Get the masses and the asses will follow always works. n/t
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