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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 10:15 AM
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Is there a blackout on Wesley Clark ?
I did see his wife on C-SPAN a couple of days ago..and I saw a brief bit showing him standing out in the cold in Oklahoma...But, it just seems that he hasn't gotten a lot of TV time in the last few days or is it just my imagination? I will admit I haven't seen much of Kucinich or Sharpton either. Are they trying to tell these candidates that if we don't cover you, you don't exist? Of course, we notice it more with the candidate we support, I suppose? :)
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 10:17 AM
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1. Yes, it's your imagination. The media would never play with our minds.
Why would they want the candidate who is truly the biggest threat to george bush and John Kerry to get air time? That might upset the apple cart.
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democratreformed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 10:19 AM
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2. Interesting analysis of yesterday's ABC coverage
Link: http://barb1283.forclark.com/story/2004/2/2/152040/0228

No of Time Candidates Mentioned:
(in order of frequency)
Kerry 4 times
Dean 2 times
Edwards 2 times

Clark 0
Kucinich 0
Liebermann 0
Sharpton 0

No. of Time Candidates Pictured:
Kerry 6 times
Dean 5 times
Edwards 4 times

Clark 0
Kucinich 0
Liebermann 0
Sharpton 0

More info at the link
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 10:25 AM
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3. Welcome to the Juggernaut
Depressing, isn't it?
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markus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 10:26 AM
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4. Clark needs to do or say something interesting
As an old press secretary/communications director sort of hack, you've gotta given 'em a reason to mention you.

Sometimes paranoia pays. Sometimes, your guy is just having a bad media week (none) as opposed to a BAD media week (Dean after IA).

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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 10:35 AM
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9. Interesrting, huh? You mean like this?
Edited on Tue Feb-03-04 10:36 AM by robbedvoter
Drawing loud cheers, Clark called the Bush White House the "most closed, secretive, nasty administration" he knew of. "I think they're a threat to democracy itself with its control of the media."
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/president/articles/2004/02/02/clark_blasts_bush_on_secrecy/

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Lefta Dissenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 10:44 AM
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14. I know, announcing
the endorsements of 55 US Ambassadors & Diplomats isn't at all noteworthy. :shrug:
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TexasSissy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 10:29 AM
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5. As a Clark supporter, I think what we're seeing in the media is
the inevitable demise of Clark's campaign. He's not shown a lot now because he's not much of a factor, anymore. There was a time, as we know, that he was ignored even though he was polling first in South Carolina. That had to be intentional. But now, Kerry and Edwards are the story because they have done better in the elections so far and in the polling, both nationally and on a state by state basis.

I hope Clark runs for and wins the Arkansas governorship. He would be a truly great leader.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 10:34 AM
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7. If you are a Clark supporter, I am a nun.
Clark supporters do not believe in the tooth fairy or the liberal media. Nice try.
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 10:43 AM
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12. For your information, Clark has beat Edwards in New Hampshire...
:eyes:

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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 10:33 AM
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6. Yes, it is. Clark is fighting this locally - the local coverage is better
His events draw large crowds and our response from the voters we are calling is very different from the media's dreams. I think after today, they'll have to ackonwledge Clark or kick a state or two from the union.



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Crewleader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 11:00 AM
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19. That cartoon says it all Kentuck
Edited on Tue Feb-03-04 11:05 AM by Crewleader
thanks robbedvoter for posting it...we know the media is republican owned and most talking heads are too. One way or the other, they want Clark to disappear so Kerry rises to the top so they can stomp on him after the nomination and closer to the election.They are planning this because they don't want to give it up, just like they sued to claim the oval office using the Supreme Court to have them take it as a win leaving the votes uncounted and the people out.

General Wesley Clark is their worse nightmare and our greatest hope for this country to come together and heal as a nation to a better future for all with peace and prosperity.

These other candidates have been campaigning since 2002 at every Democratic Convention in each state and the General had a good showing coming in third in NH when he just started this race last Sept.

The GOP can't go after his record, he's a leader we all can be proud of and the people need him with the uncertainty of the world with his knowledge and experience. National Security is the GOP top agenda and with Kerry's voting record No to Iraq the first time and Yes the second time for Iraq makes me feel unsure of him while Wesley Clark, what a fine NATO Commander he was and a soldier of the Army, he worked his way up to a Four Star General that served 34 years for this country only to improve the Arm Forces and their families lives while enlisted.
The General represents strength and stability that we need right now!

Good over Evil Kentuck...let's pray the people win and are counted!
And the only people out this time is Bush and his Regime! :-)
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 10:35 AM
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8. It's very odd.
Yep. I've noticed it. What's weird about it is that the media always responds to how much money a candidate raised, but even though Clark did incredibly well in that department in the last quarter of '03, he's still being ignored for the most part.

They know he's not a bottom tier candidate and he did very well in New Hampshire. I don't get it.

By the way, good luck to your guy today. Hopefully he'll do well enough that tomorrow the media will finally decide to get off their asses for a change and pay attention.
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poskonig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 10:37 AM
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10. Did Clark compete in Iowa?
I think he blacked himself out.
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abburdlen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 10:40 AM
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11. If folks
in Iowa were voting today, that would be a good arguement
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poskonig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 10:45 AM
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16. Clark didn't compete and has a chance of winning a *single* state today.
Clark's getting some coverage, but don't act nonplussed if he isn't being treated as the frontrunner. Everyone wants to think their candidate is the Messiah.
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 10:44 AM
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13. Don't be arrogant, you may be begging for our support some day
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poskonig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 10:47 AM
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17. I am not John Kerry.
Edited on Tue Feb-03-04 10:48 AM by poskonig
I'm J.H. Bowden and I'm a physics student at UIC. I will not beg to anyone. If what I say is *that* important, perhaps you should listen to me. :think:
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 10:44 AM
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15. This morning the Today show was on my TV
which got left on NBC because I'd watched the local moning news to see if it was a snow day for school. I happened to walk into the room when they were doing a blurb on the elections today. I watched to see and they did get a report from someone following Clark's campaign. They were all pretty good reports and equal time--at least the handful of ones I stood and watched.

I was a bit surprised because I have noticed the media has Clark on ignore.

Julie
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 10:57 AM
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18. I hope Clark does well today so he can finally get the attention
of the media....
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 11:28 AM
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21. Thanks. But they'll just ignore the states he wins, like they ignored
Edited on Tue Feb-03-04 11:29 AM by robbedvoter
his fundraising as # 1. The criteria for coverage will always change according to what benefits the one they need to push.
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maxr4clark Donating Member (639 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 11:12 AM
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20. You can see every candidate on C-SPAN.
Clark has been in the top 3 in national polls since he entered the race, but the network and cable media have consistently given him less coverage than Al Sharpton--whose best finish will be in SC today, where Sharpton is currently polling at about 10%.

The media have covered Kerry and Dean and Edwards, with far more emphasis on Dean even since New Hampshire than on anyone else. I have seen Clark only briefly on network or cable news, despite his 3rd place finish in New Hampshire.

The majority of coverage I have seen on Clark has been about how he has no chance, never got started, one of the typical smears, or how one of the other candidates has attacked him. Bill O'Reilly was talking on Faux about each candidate in turn on the day of the New Hampshire primary, and here is what he said about Clark: "He's done. He doesn't have what it takes on the...he's just done." That was it.

And still, he is second or third in most of the states voting today, and will probably win in Oklahoma--without any significant media coverage. Now THAT is what I call a strong candidate.
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