We forced LBJ out of the White House, we can do it again!

[jansu]

Yes, LBJ was replaced with someone worse, but it does prove that we do have the power. And, Nixon was forced out of office for his lies, among other things.

The media coverage of this president and this primary is down right wrong!

I couldn't have said it better than this site does. A really good read for how our candidates are being treated by the media and why this election is so important to all Americans.

We do need to keep writing all the news organizations and point out where they are wrong and demand that they print the truth and do some investigation on all the lies. To do their jobs and report to the American people. We pay for it!

We must protest. That is the only way that we stopped the Vietnam war. Let's do it again! We forced LBJ out of the White House, we can do the same to King George.

http://www.buzzflash.com/editorial/04/01/edi04006.html

[mitchum]

1. And that was a goddamn stupid thing to do...

to the most liberal president of the post-war era. Thanks a lot

[sallyseven]

2. LBJ the Education president.

I hated to see him go.

[Jacobin]

3. He killed thousands of american citizens needlessly and tens of

thousands of Vietnamese.

Good riddance to LBJ and his warmongering.

If Kerry escalates IraqNam, I'll be in the streets protesting his ass as well.

[mitchum]

4. I believe he was bookended by Saint Jack and Nixon...

in his warmongering. Thanks again.

[DemBones DemBones]

17. And Eisenhower sent the first "military advisors"

to Viet Nam about 1956-57, as I recall. The French gave up and left so the US thinking was that we had to stop the commies AKA the Red Peril. Those were the duck-and-cover "Better Dead than Red" days of my childhood.

[sandnsea]

5. So did Nixon

Nixon was the one who engaged in illegal bombing and illegal incursions into Cambodia and Laos. If LBJ had remained the President it's likely we would have had a resolution to Vietnam alot sooner. He would have come around. Nixon decided to take an extra 4 years and see if he couldn't win the war the Democrats couldn't win.

[janx]

7. This is true. It is unwise to be so politically partisan that

you can't spot a real despot when you see one.

As a matter of fact, Chimpy is a lot like LBJ. (I'm not the only one who sees this--didn't the moveon.com film point this out?)

[mitchum]

8. Except Chimpy would have never brought us The Great Society.

Civil Rights Act, etc
The two are nothing alike

And actually, it can be very wise to be politically partisan and overlook specious accusations of despotism.

[cryofan]

12. yes, LBJ one of the VERY BEST on domestic agenda, 2nd only to FDR

CLinton couldn't touch LBJ's domestic agenda in one hundred years. Not even any comparison. LBJ second to FDR when it came to domestic issues.

[genius]

18. LBJ was a civil right hero

I think that JFK's decision to dismantle the CIA and pull us out of Vietnam got him killed and LBJ was afraid the same thing would happen to him if he messed with the CIA or the military industrial complex.

[David Zephyr]

9. And Destroyed Decent Americans Calling Them "Communists"

And had the C.I.A. wake him up in 1967 to let him know that they'd murdered Che Guevara in Bolivia.

[jansu]

10. Me too!

I don't think that anything else that a President does, overrides his using our troops to be killed and to kill other people , who have not done anything to us directly. Use our tax money to help these people with enough food, clean water and education, and you will avoid having to send our boys and girls over to be killed and kill. It is a waste of money and human beings. Win the hearts and minds of the people of the world and save us all. Yes, LBJ did some wonderful things, but the war had to be stopped! Too bad, people believed Nixon had a plan to end it. And when he didn't, they still voted him in again. We need a President who will use our troops, only to protect the American people, not the corporations bottom line!

For an eye opener read "A People's History of the United States" by Howard Zinn.

[aldian159]

20. yeah

gotta love the ERAs. No sarcasm, the right thing to do.

[lcordero]

6. LBJ, Hubert H.Humphrey and Nixon got smacked down

because the Progressive Wing took them to task:

http://216.239.39.104/search?q=cache:6ZCRmE-HlpYJ:www.nmgp.org/pages/campaign2000.htm+nixon+new+mexico+green+party&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

I could only hope that we can be so courageous.

[Doomsayer13]

15. Hubert Humphry, Liberal Champion

though a Johnson Stalwart, Humphrey did more for Civil Rights than many will ever know. If we have the progressive wing to thank for his defeat to Nixon, then I'm a bit more weary of the progressive wing than before.

Nixon deftly destroyed McGovern, the progressive candidate in 72. He brought himself down becuase of his corruption shortly afterwards. I'm not trying to discredit the anti-war and progressive movement, but I disdain revisionist history.

[AntiCoup2K4]

11. The reason why LBJ was forced out was the media did their job then

The horror of Vietnam was on the 6:00 news every night. You saw the wounded and the coffins with flags. People were already pissed off, and justifiably so, but seeing the reality in their living rooms fueled the anger.

The mind numbed masses who believe what FAUX, MSRNC, and the Corporatist News Network tell them. And they aren't showing the carnage. Sure they know there are hundreds of thousands of troops "somewhere", but it's all in some far off remote world, and now we can get back to Laci Petersen, Kobe Bryant, and Janet's tits. Ya know, the really important stuff :eyes:

[genius]

19. He would have been re-elected. He wasn't forced out. He chose not to run

Look at a history book.

[Doomsayer13]

13. LBJ was also about to die

He had a serious heart condition and another 4 years would've killed him. I think that was probably the main personal reason why he didn't run again.

[AntiCoup2K4]

14. Didn't he die in 1973 anyway?

Doesn't seem he bought himself that much time, if that was his reason.

[DemBones DemBones]

21. Yes, but that was five years home on the ranch,

not having to run a country. Haven't you noticed how presidents age in office? Lotsa stress!

[genius]

16. No one forced LBJ out. If he had run, he would have landslided again

or at least that what the polls in 1968 showed. He surprized the nation by not running in 1968. Personally, I think he was afraid the people who got Kennedy would eventually get him. Johnson didn't live long after he left office.

[H2O Man]

22. Read Caro's books on LBJ

...before you decide if he was "good" or "bad." There are actually a dozen other great LBJ books. The truth is, from an early age on, he was a strange combination of both VERY GOOD and VERY BAD!!! Often in the same day! Listen: we are all sad and weakly human, but are also capable of great things. Take any great man or woman, and it's the same confusing make-up of opposite characteristics! John Lennon had his deamons! Okay? Now, LBJ would possibly have won re-election, but to imply a "landslide" was likely is not accurate ... he faced some problems in his own party. His Vietnam policy was terrible; he could not accept that the world was changing. Yet his entire career had been built upon domestic policy: the Great Society WAS GREAT, but it was destroyed....first by the war, second by republicans, and finally, and totally, by the uninspired social elites that decided to make money off of poverty. Learn more about LBJ before you dismiss him .... and rest assured, bush couldn't hold a candle to this wounded giant.