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harlinchi Donating Member (954 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 08:53 AM
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Zogby's latest survey appears to serve a corporate master.
I sent the following email to Zogby in response to a survey they requested me to complete which appeared to serve corporate masters.

Dear Zogby Staff,
This survey troubled me for a number of reasons. Usually, I feel good about your surveys in that yours appears to be an even-handed organization which seeks to inform. This survey, however, appears to serve a group of corporate masters; the phrases used and questions asked support particular positions.
Why was no option given for penalizing corporations, companies, organizations and individuals who employ illegal aliens. Why are they referred to as undocumented workers?
The folks who paid for the survey revealed themselves with such references. Their sponsorship also shows with such questions as those which ask 'how much more are you willing to pay' regarding anticipated price increases resulting from unavailable illegal labor. Participating in a corporate decision-making process determining how much more to charge me is not comforting.
Why asking who do we trust regarding immigration, isn't asking about Bush or Congress redundant? With GOP control in the executive and the legislative and when both march in lockstep, why ask the question unless one also wishes to tar the democratic party with the same 'lack of trust' brush. I know corporations and their legislative supporters wish to confuse legislative democrats with legislative republicans when they describe congressional failures but let's remember who controls the congress; refer to that control in such questions.
Corporate bias simply oozes from a question so confusing, I had to get a screen shot. The question was:

Do you believe that undocumented workers are taking jobs that Americans would otherwise do, or do you believe that there simply are some jobs that Americans are unwilling to take?


The available answers were:

Taking jobs Americans unwilling to do []

Some jobs Americans will not do []

Not sure


If you folks think that the choices represent the options from the question then perhaps I'm reading this poorly. If this is an error you need to clean it up. As it stands this appears to be a confused, manipulative attempt to generate a specific response; the survey does as well. I'm sorry to see this from Zogby. I mean, I know you folks must make money but this just seems blatant.
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klook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 08:57 AM
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1. Where's "Taking jobs that pay substandard wages & have no benefits"? (n/t)
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harlinchi Donating Member (954 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 09:03 AM
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2. The survey's intent was fairly apparent to me.
The phrasing used was tilted almost to the point of being vertical!
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 09:24 AM
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4. Yes - hard not answer the example question the way they wanted!
This poll seems more like the product of Diebold than any survey company interested in the truth.

It will be interesting to see how they interpret the answers (eg. will they say "100% of respondent believe that undocumented workers are merely taking job which Americans are unwilling to do."

I have worked side by side with undocumented workers in restaurants. What even a re-phrasing of questions like the one you cited ignore is that the employer does not offer jobs that pay $20 a day cash to anyone other than undocumented people. In other words, it is not that legal residents are choosing not to do these jobs: they could not be hired for them if they were even allowed to apply. The whole question is inverted.
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 09:21 AM
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3. Taking invented jobs that only slaves would do
The goal, make jobs in America that are mostly non-productive so the productive ones can be sent overseas. The many faceted approach corporations are using are sublime and incremental and is not very discernible unless your watching for it carefully. The way they are kicking the U.S. labor pool to it's knees in this later stage of the game is diabolical to say the least.
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guinivere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 10:11 AM
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5. They got several "not sure" answers from me.
Usually they have decent answer choices. Not this time.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 10:20 AM
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6. Are you still beating your wife because
You like to beat her

She like to be beaten

Not sure



Framing the debate, anyone?
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harlinchi Donating Member (954 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 10:41 AM
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7. At least I'll recognize conclusions drawn from suveys of this sort! n/t
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