Sleeping with wolves. Dean and Monsanto.

[blm]

Also should be noted that one of Dean's top advisors is Toby Moffett who was a Monsanto VP and now is an uber-lobbyist who works with former Rep. Livingston (R-pervert) procuring opportunities in Iraq for war profiteering firms.


I am saddened that Dean has taken this route while falsely accusing John Kerry of being "on the take" for special interests

Is this why Dean never received one endorsement from the Sierra Club for any of his races? Kerry gets the HIGHEST rating from environmental groups.

http://www.adbusters.org/magazine/24/monsanto.html

"The Monsanto Corporation's legal eagles have been busier than ever this year, firing off one legal threat after another to journalists, book publishers, and even an entire state. Monsanto, the multi-billion-dollar agribusiness giant that has brought the world products such as Agent Orange and synthetic bovine growth hormone (rBGH), revels in the perverted US legal system that has slowly conferred constitutional rights to the fictions known as corporations. This is why Monsanto can now make legal claims regarding the "defamation" of its products, a legal concept originally intended only for individuals.

Monsanto's legal team began 1998 by taking on the State of Vermont and its attempts to pass a very weak rBGH law that merely required Monsanto to register with the state and make its client list available to state authorities so "rBGH-free" claims could be verified. The company responded by publicly threatening to sue the state and stop selling its products in Vermont if the bill passed. Governor Howard Dean, feeling the lobbying heat from Monsanto and its rBGH-addicted farmers in Vermont, came to Monsanto's defense and pulled the plug on the measure by threatening a veto. The legislature then went on to further soften an already spineless bill by removing the section that required the drug manufacturer's client list..."

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1. Wow....I thought there were folks here who were genuinely concerned

about Monsanto and its influence in politics.

[THUNDER HANDS]

2. I guess not

Unless a certain lanky senator is involved.

[seventhson]

3. Toby Moffett was one of the most liberal/progressive Congressmen

He got screwed by the party establishment.

He was a very good Congreeman and a decent man.

Probably after gettinbg screwed by the DLC types he HAD to get a decent job.

I despise Monsanto but I want more info before dumping
on one of the most progressive Dems Congress has ever seen.

[seventhson]

4. Moffet is not mentioned in your link. Evidence regarding Moffett

and Monsanto is not in your link.

I DID find this. Apparently Moffett is NOT currently a Monanto employee as near as I can find so far.

http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/45/167.html

The info on this bill and the threatened veto is also not documented.

If Dean reached a compromise in order to get a bill passed to save thge state from a major lawsuit - wasn't that possibly what he HAD to do.

What was in the bill that Dean got passed?

None of that info is here BLM.

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9. Moffett was a Monsanto VP a few years back. He's now a lobbyist

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A30907-2003Oct1?language=printer

>>>>>>>
Another lobbying firm run by former House Appropriations Committee chairman Bob Livingston (R-La.) is representing well-placed Iraqi families seeking to form business alliances with U.S. and foreign companies interested in setting up operations in the country, and the firm is exploring working with a Jordanian pharmaceutical firm and an Iraqi business family to produce antibiotics for Iraq.

The Livingston Group is also working on behalf of De La Rue, a British printing and paper company that has won a contract to print some of Iraq's currency, and is now seeking to produce secure travel documents for the fledgling government. Anthony J. "Toby" Moffett Jr., a former Democratic representative from Connecticut who works with Livingston, said his firm's first task was to "make sure the people in decision-making positions knew the severity of the problem as regards to security documentation. We had to try to convince the U.S. government they need to fix this issue sooner rather than later."
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[Casablanca]

5. Good, but it hardly puts Dean below Kerry/Edwards, now does it?

Considering Kerry and Edward's even more extensive ties to lobbyists. As Kerry himself admits, he knows the way the game is played in the Beltway and plays it - but hasn't figured that that's precisely his problem as a candidate.

And Dean's beef with Kerry and Edwards, as he stated on Meet the Press yesterday, is that they are both running while making anti-lobbying campaign rhetoric one of their pet issues, while Dean isn't.

Edit: title.

[blm]

7. Except Kerry never TOOK corporate or special interest pac money

for any of his campaigns. That money was from INDIVIDUAL donors who worked within those industries and especially those lobbyists who worked for liberal and Democratic causes.

If Dean is being so honest then he would gladly share his career donations using the EXACT same formula used on Kerry and Edwards.

An HONEST opponent would be rushing to do that. A deceptive demagogue would not.

[Casablanca]

10. How about Kerry's _career_ donations, and not just campaign donations?

You say Kerry doesn't accept corporate/lobbying money for his campaigns, but Dean accepts the same after he gets elected? What has Kerry accepted from them while in office?

And regardless, Dean isn't running an anti-lobbyist campaign, so don't try to hang him with Kerry's and Edward's anti-lobbyist campaign rhetoric.

[seventhson]

6. There is nothing here saying Dean SLEPT witrh Monsanto

he got pressure from Vermont farmers to oppose parts of a bill the farmers opposed.

A bill was passed.

And look - the damn growth hormone is damn near approved everywhere.

I worked on a dairy as a kid and I know a bit about this.

I do not like the hormone and buy milk without it.

But the dairty farmers feel they need it to make any money at all.

[bigtree]

8. kick

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