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PistolSteve Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 11:16 AM
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Feingold Flip-Flops?
Can anyone find any Feingold "flip-flops"? From what I see, he is the most consistent person in Congress. The only one I can find is his view on the Filibuster has changed in the last 6 years (for obvious reasons), although it is hard to find someone who hasn't on that topic.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 11:17 AM
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1. Get outta here!
:D
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 11:18 AM
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2. Why would you want to?
:shrug:

Hey, but I'm an optimist and prefer to look for positive stances our Dems take.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 11:19 AM
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3. motive
nt
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PistolSteve Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 11:20 AM
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4. Good call...
Didn't even realize how it would look... sorry :(, I guess it does look bad - Intentions are good though
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 11:41 AM
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9. My bad then.
Russ is pretty good at avoiding the flip flops. He's very stubborn. Bugs a lot of Democrats with that fact. He held onto CFR for years like a bulldog, when other Dems told him to drop it.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 02:02 PM
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19. And when other Dems were submitting Clean Elections legislation.
Edited on Tue Mar-28-06 02:11 PM by blm
That's public financing of campaigns for those unfamiliar with the effort. Those senators' efforts were ignored thanks to the McCain-Feingold bill and its appeal to the compromise crowd.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 11:20 AM
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PistolSteve Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 11:31 AM
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8. Hear what?
I addressed the issue of how this post appears above - again, I do realize that it looks bad - my intentions were good.
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 01:56 PM
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18. I thought you had to have at least 50 posts to start a string
Has that rule gone by the wayside?
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 11:21 AM
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6. When you get it right the first time, you don't need to flip-flop
I can't think of any times he's appeared to vote according to 'political calculus'. The principles that he seems to base his voting decisions on don't tend to change with the winds.

There are a couple of Representitives in the house I'd say the same thing about, but not many others in the Senate.

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 02:08 PM
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20. He built his reputation as a process senator who always deferred to the
Edited on Tue Mar-28-06 02:22 PM by blm
rules and due process and then he suddenly changed course when he offered censure as a remedy to Bush's lawbreaking without even discussing it with other likeminded senators looking to investigate NSA spying, and at a time when the congress was going through the proper steps to gather a case for THEIR LEGAL REMEDY of impeachment. Russ told the media that censure was the moderate approach to hold Bush accountable since he felt that impeachment would be wrong during a time of war.

I am behind censure's political wristslapping 100%, but do NOT want it sold as an alternative to impeachment which is the ONLY legal remedy for presidential lawbreaking.

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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 11:28 AM
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7. I was unaware that he had his own line of footwear!
:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 11:46 AM
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10. Aren't flip flops out?
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 11:47 AM
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11. Not when they're as cool as these —
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 04:52 PM
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22. True. Those are pretty sexy.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 12:00 PM
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12. People who never change their opinion even when faced with new
evidence or findings are rigid, inflexible, and ignorant. These types of people can not change with the times and are not really leaders or visionaries. It takes a big person to realize that things have changed and then embrace and implement the changes.
I would hope that Feingold isn't one of these rigid people.

Oh, and your post is obviously trying to discredit another great Democratic Senator- Senator Kerry. Very unfair indeed, using Right Wing talking points to bash another Dem.
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PistolSteve Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 12:13 PM
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13. That's not a flip flop
First of all, my post had nothing to do with John Kerry - the term "flip-flop" and John Kerry have little to do with eachother anymore. I am well past 2004 and have put it behind me.

"People who never change their opinion even when faced with new evidence or findings are rigid, inflexible, and ignorant"

I agree... so? That isn't a 'flip-flop' at all. A 'flip-flop' is when you go back not on an action but a belief. If you voted for the Iraq war and were confronted with new evidence that made you change your mind, that is NOT a flip-flop. If you were completely against abortion for moral reasons until your daughter got pregnant, that is.

I found Feingold's fundamental belief that there should be an up and down vote (March 2000) and his call for a filibuster a flip-flop. A bad one? No! But one that could be used against him, that's all. I was just wondering if there were any more anyone could think of or find, so we could be prepared in 2008!
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 01:26 PM
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16. You know as well as I do that the term Flip Flop was coined to
attack Kerry's voting record. Why use it now? Surely you could have found a better way to ask your question. I can think of no reason to ever use this term for anything other than referring to a rubber sandal from now on. If you do not want to be accused of using RW attacks I would suggest you not use the term again. You may not associate that term with Senator Kerry, but others still do.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 12:13 PM
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14. He tries to make sure he has enough info to get it right the first time
What a strange philosophy
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 01:52 PM
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17. hehe
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 12:19 PM
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15. everyone has flip flops
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 02:11 PM
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21. "flip-flop" is tired GOP rhetoric
Research back a couple decades and you'll hear the same crap over and over again.
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