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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 04:28 PM
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Russia Intel "Discovery"-- and war against Iran

Sorry to be so sceptical, but our government usually has an agenda whenever it releases something like the "startling" new discovery about Russia's intelligence gathering on US troop movements in Iraq.

I have the strong suspicion that BushCo is trying to portray Russia as a US enemy so that these guys can further pimp US pre-emptive war against Iran. The argument goes something like this--

Yes, Russia SAYS it will prevent Iran from using nuclear fuel rods for military purposes, but can Russia really be trusted? Obviously not, since Russia was actively trying to defeat America when America was trying to defend itself in Iraq against Saddam's WMDs.

So, in spite of the Russia/Iran fuel supply deal, America's Homeland is still not safe. In fact these two clever America haters--Iran and Russia-- are probably plotting right now how to nuke American cities. And if Russia drags its feet in the UN security council over Iran, well, you know it's because Russia in on the plot against America. Russia will only let us have half-baked UN sanctions against Iran because Russia is actually an enemy of the US.

So, regardless of the Russian fuel deal and regardless of any decisions that emerge from the UN, we still need to take out Iran.


Thoughts, anyone?

Background Info:
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From the BBC--

Saturday, 25 March 2006, 10:25 GMT

Russia has denied providing Saddam Hussein with intelligence on US military moves in the opening days of the US-led invasion in 2003.


"Similar, baseless accusations concerning Russia's intelligence have been made more than once," a Foreign Intelligence Service spokesman said. A US Pentagon report said Russia passed details through its Baghdad ambassador. One piece of intelligence passed on was false, and in fact helped a key US deception effort, the report said.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4843394.stm

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Sunday, 27 February, 2005, 12:56 GMT

Russia-Iran nuclear deal signed


Russia and Iran have signed an agreement for Moscow to supply fuel to Iran's new nuclear reactor in Bushehr. Under the deal Iran has to return spent nuclear fuel rods from the reactor, which was designed and built by Russia.

The clause is a safeguard meant to banish fears that Iran might misuse the rods to build nuclear weapons, a concern of the US, Israel and others. The agreement sets out a time-frame for delivery of the fuel, but officials said the dates would be kept secret.

The BBC's Frances Harrison in Tehran says the deal is significant because Bushehr will be Iran's first reactor to go on stream - a project that has become an issue of national prestige in the face of intense US opposition. The signing, which had been expected on Saturday, was apparently delayed over disagreements about when the spent fuel should be returned.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4301889.stm
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redphish Donating Member (296 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 04:30 PM
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1. You just might be on to something there.
Makes sense in the twisted world they live in.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 05:14 PM
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2. I heard Condi and others talking about this today on the Sunday
shows and what struck me as odd was the fact that no one seemed to be curious as to how the Russians supposedly got this information in the first place. Has anyone heard any speculation on that?
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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 05:27 PM
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3. I think they were making crap up, to tell the truth
Reports are that much of the "intelligence" was completely wrong.

Speaking of wrong Russian intelligence, during the initial "shock and awe" phase of the war, lots of people (including me) followed the "action" on Iraqwar.ru, a Russian website that promoted itself as full of inside information from observers on the ground feeding info to Russians. The guy on the website said much of the information came from "radio intercepts". (???!!???)

Of course, one can never be sure of these things, but the blow-by-blow accounts of the various battles and skirmishes on Iraqwar.ru appeared to be BS.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 05:32 PM
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4. Most of their "intelligence" was completely wrong.
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Doorknob Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 05:39 PM
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5. Will we attack Russia next? Wouldn't surprise me. n/t
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