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gasperc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 03:00 PM
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Gore/Feingold 2008 - Prediction
If I'm not the first to toss this out then clobber me for the umteenth time. I've been building towards this and there is something salient about it. There is something stale about the thought of Hillary in 2008, The Clinton years were great, don't get me wrong but 2008 won't be a do-over election. It'll be a transition and watershed election much like 1932. Maybe Gore is being Coy, maybe not but I just had this gut feeling that this WILL be the ticket in 2008, not just my fantasy ticket but the honest to God ticket. So we'll see.
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lupita Donating Member (397 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 03:01 PM
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1. I like it n/t
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 04:20 PM
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12. me too, in fact, I love it
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 03:02 PM
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2. From your mouth to Gore's ears
I'd be extremely happy with this ticket, but he stated again yesterday that he's not planning to run. I hope he's just waiting for someone to ask him to the dance or is just playing it coy for now.
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pstans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 03:06 PM
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5. Everyone says that aren't running
Russ
Hillary
Edwards
Bayh
Kerry
Daschle
McCain
Guilliani
Condi
Hagel

Everyone says that aren't running right now. That doesn't mean they won't run.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 03:46 PM
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8. Not true - they NEVER say "they are not running"
they say "we'll see", "it's too early", "time will tell", "we need to concentrate on 2006, then we'll see where we're at" - I'm sure everyone could add to this list - only Condi, a while ago on MTP and Gore have said "NO" Only Biden actually said he was running - but not officialy.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 02:52 PM
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36. It's smart, since the attack dogs and press of the RNC and BushCo
Edited on Wed Mar-22-06 02:53 PM by Kurovski
don't really know who to focus on. Their efforts have to be spread all over the place.


Edit: it's best to deny it until the very last reasonable minute.
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 03:30 AM
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40. Gore has NOT ruled out running again
Saying "right now I am not planning to run for President" is NOT the same as saying "there is no way I would ever consider running again".

A person's plans and intentions can change from one day to the next, depending on changing circumstances and emerging opportunities.

Has Hillary said "I am planning to run for President in 2008".

No. Nobody has said that yet. Not in public anyway.

Why? Because it's too early.

Gore doesn't even have to make a decision until 2007.

In Gore We Trust
www.algore.org :)
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pstans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 03:04 PM
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3. I have been on the Feingold bandwagon for awhile
but I have had this feeling that 2008 might just be the right time for Al Gore. He is outspoken defender of the environment, which has been attacked by the Bu$h administration. The economy is not in good shape and people might look to Gore to bring back the 90's boom.

I would be happy with a Gore/Feingold ticket.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 06:20 PM
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25. That sounds like a wonderful ticket to me. America needs them.
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 03:06 PM
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4. That would be perfect....Gore and Feingold a perfect match...
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cenacle Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 03:06 PM
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6. Whoever it is...
and I think that Gore/Feingold is a very promising one, the ticket has to be someone that progressives get behind. We can't have another situation where the left is shut out and the candidates spend so much time catering to some mythical centrist voter base, that we lose heart and interest. We have to care, be inspired to care, work it every single day.

That said, 2008 at this point is somewhat irrelevant. The 2006 congressional elections are unspeakably vital. The Republican majority has to be ended. This will put the Bush* cabal's schemes to an end, and they will be fighting impeachment and jailtime for their remaining days.

If we don't win 2006, I really worry 2008 will be too late to keep the whole thing from hitting the wall...
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 06:00 PM
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24. My sense is that progressives will get behind Feingold or Gore or both
It seems Gore has shaken that wooden persona he had maintained during Clinton's administration that was really a handicapp .. couldn't take listening to him at the time.

It wasn't until he came out against the war with passion that i never dreamt he was capable of - and then following speaking events that we hear about on line from time to time. He's avoiding the media and i think that's a good thing.

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Burning Water Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 03:38 PM
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7. Clark's da man.
Any other Dem will be stomped upon by a raging elephant. And that ain't no bullhookey.

Clark has the gravitas, the achievements, and the national security cred to win.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 04:13 PM
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11. I hear you and I agree!
:headbang:!

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Burning Water Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 04:26 PM
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13. Thanks.
I've taken some hits for my opinion about the chances Gore, Kerry, and Hillary have as opposed to Clark.
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 03:50 PM
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9. I'm right there.. It should be a watershed ticket.
A Constitutional Platform Ticket!

Gore/Feingold - and it is a salient hue and cry, and building...


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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 03:57 PM
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10. I'd prefer Feingold/Gore, myself
Feingold's a Democratic streetfighter of the first order. Gore's the environment czar that a lot of big corporations hate because he won't let them pollute our water, soil, and air.
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guidod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 04:48 PM
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15. Gore would never settle
for the second name on the ticket, he did that for 8 years. Gore/Feingold has been my pick for about 6 months. I really like what's happening with Feingold right now.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 05:45 PM
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20. Me too...
I want someone leading the ticket that will make the first priority of fixing our sick system of campaign financing and put public financing in its place. That I think is a job best suited to Feingold's leadership. Gore would be a good person to have too, though he might not want to be VP again. I wouldn't mind Clark in as Feingold's running mate too. Clark I think would help complement Feingold a lot in areas where he's not viewed as strong as Clark would be (defense, being a Washington outsider, etc.).
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cenacle Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 12:21 PM
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32. how about...
gore/feingold for prez/v-p, and clark for secretary of defense? and howard dean for secretary of state? and hillary clinton for senate majority leader? and cindy sheehan for ambassador to the UN? we've got enough people to start cleaning the bush scumb off the planet! and there's a lot of jobs to go around :)

but first, i'll say it again and again, we MUST win in 2006...we HAVE to stop the bush* crime family from any more actions about ANYTHING...and start getting more of them behind bars...then in 2008 take back the white house and start the real work of making the world safe for humans and other living creatures again...

i say at this point the progressives are in war mode, and should stay there...bush at 36% popularity is too much...we need to drive him down further...there's no time to be lax, only to bring more and more people to our side, and make sure our side is doing what it needs to do...

my hope is that the darkest of days are behind us, and while the light is still far, it will come...provided we are awake, aware, and ready for it...
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 04:29 PM
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14. Won't happen.
Gore isn't running and Feingold will never beat Hillary.

It's a nice dream though.
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guidod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 04:51 PM
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16. I disagree,
The people I hear promoting Hillary are conservatives. They would love for her to run.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 04:54 PM
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18. Hillary is toast
She waffled on one issue too many, namely censure of Nero for his illegal wiretaps.
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 05:56 PM
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22. her ratings at daily kos is at 2%
that makes me feel a little better..

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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 04:52 PM
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17. This is the best possible ticket for 2008.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 05:14 PM
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19. No thank you! n/t
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 05:47 PM
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21. Placed yer bets here, ladies and gents!
$20. says it won't be Gore or Feingold.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 05:59 PM
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23. ah, can't a girl dream?
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 07:27 PM
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30. yes, she can!
But she can gamble, too!
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 07:58 PM
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31. I'll give you $20 on Gore.
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WhoWantsToBeOccupied Donating Member (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 10:29 PM
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39. Great! Now they have their flimsy pretext (gambling) for shutting down DU
Edited on Wed Mar-22-06 10:30 PM by WhoWantsToBeOccupied
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 02:57 PM
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37. as far as the gop is concerned this next election will be
a heads i win tails you lose situation and if we let em they will choose hillery as their opposition. as far as the mm and the lip flappers are concerned the fix is already in. they will pull out all the stops to not have to run against gore because they know they will lose and that gore will WIN. THAT IS WHY OUR PATH IS CLEAR.
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lavenderdiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 06:26 PM
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26. Woohoo!
That would be a winner for me! I worked for Gore's campaign in 2000, and would be happy to do so again in 2008!!!

I truly think Gore/Feingold would be unbeatable.
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 06:47 PM
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27. You're not the first, and I *totally* agree with ya!
:toast:
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 06:50 PM
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28. Gore is not running for President in 2008
It's about time we accept that and move on.
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 07:10 PM
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29. actually there's a report on GD that strongly suggests of the possibility
Gore has not said he's not running, he just says he has no plans at this time to run. in the world of politicians, that's not at all the same thing. ;)

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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 01:51 PM
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33. I predict Diebold- ES & S in 2008.
That's an unbeatable combination. It has worked for the past 3 elections. Why does anyone think 2006 will be any different?
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KAT119 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 02:34 PM
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34. First we demand paper ballots-like Canada-or we Boycott-stay home for 2-3
weeks-purchase nothing-pay no taxes. Hands in pockets!
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 02:47 PM
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35. i'll second that
but it isn't just going to happen...we have to make it happen. k&n
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 03:09 PM
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38. {{{{Visualizing it now}}}} nt
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 03:34 AM
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41. Want more Gore?
Then you might want to check out this website for grassroots Gore supporters: www.algore.org

I encourage all Gore supporters to keep spreading the word!

If Al Gore runs in 2008, then I trust him to make a good choice of running mate. I'm sure it won't be Joe Lieberman (or anyone else who has been a consistent Bu$h supporter on the Iraq issue during these past 3 years). Of course we are free to speculate and have our own preferences - but it's something that the nominee has to decide for him or herself.

If you trust Gore to run the country - then surely you can trust him to pick the right running mate?

In Gore We Trust
www.algore.org :)
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 05:23 AM
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42. I'm not going to clobber you. That's my gut feeling too.
Granted, this is my fantasy ticket. But it also feels historically inevitable.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 07:34 AM
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43. I dare not dream it
The oligarchy wouldn't have it.
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 08:28 AM
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44. They should run as an independant team.
Edited on Thu Mar-23-06 08:28 AM by iconoclastNYC
If it looks like Hillary is going to be gifted the nomination, then progressives should run an independant candidate. I think the threat is the only thing that will stop the shenanigans that took down Dean in 2004.
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 09:11 AM
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46. Gore is a Democrat!
Gore would never run as an independent or third-party candidate against the Democratic nominee.

He respects the process, and if Hillary wins the primaries then Gore will support her! :)

Isn't that like one of the basic groundrules of the Democratic Underground community?

In Gore We Trust
www.algore.org :)
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Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 08:31 AM
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45. From you mouth to the Great Spirit's ears - bring it on ..........
Edited on Thu Mar-23-06 08:31 AM by Minnesota Libra
...Gore/Feingold :loveya: :toast: :hug: :toast: :pals: :hi: :headbang: :yourock: :applause: :woohoo:
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