New Quinnipiac Poll, Kerry crushes Bush 51-43

[59millionmorons]

This makes four polls that I know of were Kerry beats Bush.

Kerry tops all Dems and leads Bush by 8 points, nationwide poll by Quinnipiac University finds; President’s approval below 50 percent for first time

Feb. 2, 2004

In a nationwide survey, Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry now leads President George W. Bush 51 – 43 percent according to a Quinnipiac University poll released today. Looking at the Democratic primary, the Kerry juggernaut has rolled up 42 percent, 30 points higher than any other Presidential primary contender.

American voters give President Bush a 48 – 45 percent approval, the first time he has dropped below 50 percent. While Kerry is the only Democrat ahead of Bush, all Democratic contenders have gained ground on the President.




http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x10002.xml

[David Dunham]

1. Now Dean Should Stop Sliming Kerry.

[mccormack98]

17. This is the first poll to show a democrat beating Bush

All polls thus far have had democrats in statistical deadheats with Bush. The first was a Draftgore/Zogby poll in September: Gore 46 - Bush 48. After that we had several similar results with other dems. When Clark joined the race, he had better numbers but still tied Bush. His numbers were: Clark 49% Bush 46%. (The margin of error for these polls runs around 3 to 4 percent - hence these are all ties). Then a whole bunch tied Bush in various polls. And finally, a Newsweek poll last week showing Kerry 49% Bush 46% - still a tie.

Today's poll is the first to show a named democrat with a lead that exceeds the margin of error.

Whoo hoo! Nice trend, I'll take it.

Bill

[ArkDem]

2. Looks like it's all over.

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[progressivebydesign]

6. Guess I'll skip my caucus on Saturday then.. thanks. N/T

[Goldom]

8. All over? It's hardly begun

Delegates:

Dean: 113
Kerry: 94
Total Needed: 2,161

[molly]

13. Most of Dean's delegates are super-delegates

they can change their minds.

[GalleryGod]

34. By Democratic Party Bylaws they are "Ucommitted" until the Roll Call

in Boston. They are purposesly built-in to the system to avoid a repeat of the 1972 Convention.

:hi: Hi, Molly-my-Girl!

G.G.:beer:

[Feanorcurufinwe]

3. Gotta love it!!

[NewYorkerfromMass]

4. When it's 70 to 30

I'll feel better. I am not misunderestimating the chimp.

[progressivebydesign]

5. Call me cautious..

but.. I always worry about polls like that during a primary. It gives voters a false sense of security.. as though all they have to do is nominate Kerry and Bush is gone. This is an unexamined Kerry, and idea of who Kerry is, that they are polling on now. Whomever our eventual nominee is, these polls won't mean anything, until our nominee is peeled apart, layer by layer, like an onion. THEN we'll see if they can still be Bush. We had better be sure we get the best nominee.. NOT just based on a preliminary poll. Name recognition is a biggie in these polls right now.

[59millionmorons]

7. What could any of our nominees have in there closest's

that would be worse than sending 520 soldiers to there deaths over a bold face lie?

[Monte Carlo]

10. They could have gotten a blowjob fron an intern...

... which we all know of course to be MUCH worse.

[isbister]

9. I agree

that its nothing to get too excited about but it sure does feel good seeing bush on the downside of the numbers against any Democrat

May the slide continue :toast:

[bornskeptic]

16. Unexamined?

John Kerry was an icon to millions long before anybody had ever heard of our other candidates. He withstood more attacks over Iran Contra alone than the rest have faced combined in their entire careers.

[Old and In the Way]

37. THis is an unexamined Kerry?

Kerry's public record has been known for 35 years. Of all the Democrats running, far more is known about Kerry than any of the other candidates. Unless you are concerned about Skull and Bones (a non-issue that is nuetralized anyway) or BoTox, there is no "there" there. What you see is what you'll get, a man of progressive ideas and a demonstrable record of leadership.

[NewHampster]

11. Just makes me want to stop everything and go with JK

NOT

[stickdog]

12. Because the corporate media has given Kerry a free pass.

Just one week of nonstop media criticism would reverse all these numbers.

When do you think that will happen?

[David Dunham]

14. Dean Should Go Back to VT and See a Psychiatrist

[creativelcro]

15. National polls mean very little. 10 months before GE they mean nothing

Don't get fooled by these wishful thinking polls.

[MoonRiver]

28. It does mean something.

It means people will be pumped to get out the vote (for Kerry), othe Dem candidates will be marginalized as their supporters become disheartened, and Kerry will win the nomination.

The bad news for you and me is that our candidates are not polled as beating *, so we can anticipate being among the marginalized.

The good news that if we can keep mobilizing and energizing Dems for another 7 months, the House of * may just come crumbling down next November.

ABB

[Old and In the Way]

33. I agree with you totally on this, saywhat.

"The good news that if we can keep mobilizing and energizing Dems for another 7 months, the House of * may just come crumbling down next November."

Electing a President is great, but real change will only happen when we gain majorities in both House and Senate. One benefit of having a nominee chosen early allows for more time and focus on getting Democrats elected to support a fundemental change of agendas and fix what this irresponsible misadminitration has wrecked.

[MoonRiver]

40. I'm sure hoping the voters see it our way.

The presidency isn't enough. Pukes have had their day in the sun, and guess what, under their rule, life in the good old USofA has become a nightmare. Citizens need to vote a straight Dem ticket to restore peace, prosperity, and dignity to this country.

[TheStateChief]

38. Amen...Polls in January Mean Nothing

So much is going to change between now and then I'm sure we'll see Bush and Kerry (if he ends up being the nominee) trading the lead all the way through the conventions. Rover, I believe, even said something about this last year, trying to buck up the Repugs for the decline in Bush's approvals that they knew would be coming.

Don't get me wrong, it's good to hear that Kerry is trending in the right direction, but national polls don't mean a whole lot - we need our nominee to move in the states that Bush won in 2000, not win the national vote and lose the electoral vote like Gore.

[David__77]

18. We need to run as if we were far behind.

Not defensively, but we cannot place much meaning in polls like this. We had the same thing happen when Clark was a newer commodity. We need to gear up our informational and organizational abilities now.

[Algorem]

19. Wait'll people se the load of Kerryskeletonsinthecloset that the Bushmob

will be shoving in their faces if he's the nominee.

[GalleryGod]

35. BTW is "Call Me Al" Hittin' the Trail with Dean?

:hangover: I din't take note

G.G.:smoke:

[Skip Intro]

20. Same Poll - Dean v. bush, Clark v. bush, Edwards and Lieberman too

All candidates (except DK and AS, who for some reason weren't asked about) are from within 5pts to 2pts. Granted, Kerry does the best at this moment (Kerry: "thanks MSNBCFOXABCCBSCNN"), but all others are holding the moron under 50%. Yep, even "angry, screaming" Dean (screw you MSNBCFOXABCCBSCNN).
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http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x9998.xml

In possible 2004 presidential matchups, Kerry beats Bush 51 – 43 percent, compared to a 49 – 45 percent Bush lead January 26. Bush beats all other Democrats:

49 - 44 percent over Dean, down from 54 – 38 percent January 26;
47 – 45 percent over Edwards, down from 50 – 42 percent;
48 – 45 percent over Clark, down from 51 – 41 percent;
49 – 44 percent over Lieberman, down from 53 – 39 percent.
From January 28 – 31, Quinnipiac University surveyed 1,219 registered voters nationwide, with a margin of error of +/- 2.8 percent. The survey includes 420 Democrats with a margin of error of +/- 4.8 percent.
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And note the change from Jan. 26 for all them.

[sandnsea]

21. I thought we wanted to beat Bush

Silly me.

[THUNDER HANDS]

22. yeah, who woulda thought

In a thread that shows Kerry kicking Bush's butt that anti-Kerry stuff would pop up.

Nose, please meet face.

[GalleryGod]

36. Handsome line,RaT!

:bounce: Kudos!
G.G.:party:

[David Dunham]

23. After Feb. 3, Kerry'll be the Effective Nominee. Dean, stop sliming him!

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[David Dunham]

25. Most Democratic Primary Voters Like Kerry. Are they stupid?

[Algorem]

27. To paraphrase philosopher Bachman Turner,they ain't seen nuthin' yet.

[saoirse]

29. The clear trend is that Bush is tanking

Big time, as Unka Dick would say!

There was another poll about a week ago that showed Kerry beating Bush 49% to 46%. So this latest poll seems to indicate that not only is Kerry consolidating his lead, but support for Bush is plummeting.

I know, it's just a poll, but I do think we're seeing a genuine erosion of support for Dubya. Even some GOP stalwarts are getting pissed of by him! With the deficit topping half a trillion dollars, disasters in Iraq and Afghanistan, and prepackaged whitewashes of 9-11 and Iraq's WMD, anyone with an ounce of objectivity has to be asking "where are we going, and why are we in this handbasket?"

The Bush presidency has been an unqualified disaster. It's time for the grown-ups to take over. Candidates and supporters, you'll be doing yourselves a big favor if you direct your anger at those who deserve it instead of at each other. America is watching us and listening to us now - let's make sure what they see is something we can be proud of.

[Renew Deal]

30. Well thank you for that pearl of wisdom.

:evilfrown:

[maddezmom]

26. The numbers look good for the Dems

no matter who you are supporting.

[creativelcro]

31. But Dean bashers were making fun of his poll numbers

last Dec. Now, they are taking seriously NATIONAL polls 10 months before GE... I undersand you guys want to take a break and feel like you've done it, you've beaten GWB... But this is way premature and pathetic... It's only temporary hype, you should know better.

[Old and In the Way]

39. Disappointed in the good news creativelcro?

The difference between last December and now is that we have hard results coming in from a causcus and primary that puts reality to the polling.

We'll certainly know next week if there is a national consensus on Kerry's viability among Democrats. But I think that we are already seeing the effects of a projected nominee running against Bush....and I like what I'm seeing!

Even better, an early consensus will help Democrats focus on the nest phase of this campaign....getting Democrats elected in the House and Senate. I think this is where Kerry's selection will provide huge dividends to our candidates for Congress.

[Jersey Devil]

32. oops, sorry, looks like I duped you

Didn't see your earlier post and was surprised there wasnt' a post on it.

[mitchum]

41. Absolutely Beautiful Data

[NNN0LHI]

42. Kerry will kick Bush's ass all the way back to the pig farm in Waco n/t