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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 12:22 AM
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Max Cleland's revenge: John Kerry
We all know Max was smeared. He was compared to Osoma and called a traitor. We all know who was behind this: chickenhawks...disgusting.

Rethugs cheered while this happened. Sick.

Max Cleland is supporting John Kerry. In fact, he is campaigning for John Kerry and is with him much of time.

Will 2004 be his revenge? God, I hope so.

"John Kerry kept a bodyguard beside him at his town meeting in Somersworth, a working-class hamlet near the Maine border, two days before the primary. At least it appeared he had: The granite-jawed, gimlet-eyed face beneath the VFW hat festooned with unit badges looked ready in an instant to swing a mean left hook. But Kerry's shadow man had only one arm and no legs. It was Max Cleland, former senator from Georgia, triply maimed by combat wounds in Vietnam. From his wheelchair at Kerry's side throughout the ninety-minute question-and-answer session, Cleland maintained the unblinking gaze of a combat soldier on night watch--a silent dare to any antagonist."

http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20040216&s=shapiro



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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 12:32 AM
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1. Funny how he endorses a guy who voted for the legislation that got him
ousted...
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 01:36 AM
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3. Say what? Cleland was defeated by a sleazoid Republican

after G W Bush, George H W Bush, Laura Bush, and Dick Cheney all came down to Georgia to campaign for the sleazoid (Chambliss.) Dubya and Dick made at least two trips each to Georgia, IIRC. Chambliss had the gall to imply Max wasn't patriotic enough, with TV ads showing Osama morphing into Max. Chambliss is, of course, a chickenhawk.

2002 was also the year Georgia went to computer voting statewide, and both our Democratic governor and Senator Cleland were defeated. Honest election?
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 01:47 AM
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4. Yes, and they painted him as "non-patriotic" despite the fact that he lost
an arm and both legs in Vietnam. One of the ways they supported this was his refusal to support the Patriot Act.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 01:55 AM
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5. Homeland Security
They beat him up over Homeland Security.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 02:03 AM
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6. Which was PART of the Patriot Act.
Look, I know how they attacked him. I just find it odd that he's support a man who voted for legislation that he (Cleland) didn't support.
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Doomsayer13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 02:07 AM
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7. As I recall
the PATRIOT act and Homeland Security were voted on seperately. Both Kerry and Cleland voted for the PATRIOT act initially after 9-11, and both Kerry and Cleland opposed attempts to stymie collective bargaining on the Homland Security bill which is what the right used to smear Cleland as "unpatriotic".
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yowzayowzayowza Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 08:10 AM
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11. Then I suggest...
You continue paying attention. Ya might jus learn something.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 03:27 AM
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8. Max Clelland is a straight up guy
Your criticizm and smarmy attack are over the top. He deserves better for his service and he's old enough (and politically astute enough) to make up his mind with no help from anyone.

John Kerry is neither my first or second choice but I respect him more because Clelland knows AND supports him.
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David Dunham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 12:32 AM
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2. Max Is a Great Guy
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WiseMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 10:03 AM
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20. Say that again.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 05:03 AM
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9. Yeah, but I didn't do anything to Max Cleland?!
Why do I have to suffer, too?
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justsam Donating Member (218 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 06:52 AM
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10.  Max Cleland brought
up Bushs service record on the Bill Marah show last night so there may be a lot more said about Bush being AWOL this week
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 09:23 AM
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12. Max Cleland's Revenge Tour 2004.
Max has been FIERCE on the campaign trail. He beats Bush with the AWOLSTICK at every appearance.
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dolstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 09:36 AM
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13. With friends like Max Cleland, who needs enemies?
Sorry, but if Max Cleland's "revenge" for his humiliating loss in 2002 is foisting upon the Democratic Party someone as unelectable as John Kerry, I say no thanks.
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Meldread Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 09:52 AM
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14. ...and Kerry is about to join Max.
I find it funny that people think Kerry is immune to the same attacks that were launched on Max. Especially seeing as how Max lost an arm and both his legs -- Kerry is a push over compared to that.

Furthermore I find it ironic that Max would support someone who did the same thing to Howard Dean.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 10:05 AM
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17. So you say. But your charge has no basis in reality.
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Meldread Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 10:20 AM
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18. Really?
Ask Max Cleland if he thought he'd be attacked the way he was. You're in for the shock of your life if you don't think Rove is going to chew Kerry up and spit him back out.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 10:09 AM
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21. The country didn't know about was happening to Max in Georgia.
There was the SNIPER STORY going on at the time. Rove could not have succeeded with his trick at the time if the public knew about it.

They are just learning of what happened in every veterans' group Cleland speaks to.

Why be skittish about something where we hold the DEFINITE edge over Bush? We're going to use what happened to Max as an attack against the CHARACTER of the GOP chickenhawks. Think about the speeches at the convention.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 09:54 AM
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15. too bad Cleland's revenge won't come true when Bush beats Kerry
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 10:04 AM
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 11:42 PM
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19. I'm sorry, but right now his chances look better than Dean's...
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