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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 10:35 AM
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Medical question relative to rape
I've heard some nonsense about a yahoo up in South Dakota wanting to exempt virgins and religious girls from the abortion ban. Don't know if its true but do they ever not surprise us?

My question: Post rape, can it be determined by physical evidence that the victim was a virgin prior to the rape? How does a member of the South Dakota legislature know that the victim was a virgin?
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ret5hd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 10:38 AM
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1. i think you can tell...
whether the girl is lying about her pre-rape status by the economic status of her parents and the color of her skin. (do i really need that silly sarcasm smiley?)
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 10:52 AM
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4. sorry I thought you were a newbie :)
Edited on Thu Mar-09-06 10:53 AM by wakeme2008
:hi:

:sarcasm: is the one you want :)
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squarepants Donating Member (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 10:53 AM
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5. lol at what ret5hd said....
As in regards to the question, yeah, I wonder how one would tell, too. I also agree with the "never cease to amaze" bit. Sheesh, sometimes I don't know whether to laugh or cry at some of the things these people on the right say. Besides, don't these people not want abortion legal because they call it murder? Then how it is ok for a virgin girl who was raped or her being "religious" make abortion not be murder? Gee, I'm sorry, I thought murder was murder. Not only that, but throwing religion into something like that is totally not fair! What are they trying to say? So, if a girl gets raped and she happens to be an athiest, she isn't allowed to have an abortion? Knowing them, they'd probably say "she had it coming because she's an athiest".
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 02:06 PM
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10. Hi squarepants!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 10:44 AM
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2. Did you hear/read the quote? It was totally twisted. Maybe someone will
post it....
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Arger68 Donating Member (562 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 10:51 AM
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3. What if a woman gets raped, doesn't get pregnant,
then gets raped again later and does get pregnant? Even if it can be proven that a woman was a virgin before she was raped, what if she gets raped repeatedly over time? I would bet that this happens much more frequently than most people realize. This whole thing is just insane. :eyes:
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 10:54 AM
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6. It's crazy, BOSS
you can rape a prostitute and it is still rape. As I'm sure you know. Those guys are loons.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 10:55 AM
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7. But I thought virgins and religious girls wouldn't get pregnant?
:sarcasm:
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ret5hd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:05 AM
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8. well, unless you are the virgin mary...right?
was god, in his position of ultimate power, guilty of sexual harassment?
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:19 AM
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9. BOSS, I think this is the yahoo you were referring to and his
remarks on the News Hour:

FRED DE SAM LAZARO: Napoli says most abortions are performed for what he calls "convenience." He insists that exceptions can be made for rape or incest under the provision that protects the mother's life. I asked him for a scenario in which an exception may be invoked.

BILL NAPOLI: A real-life description to me would be a rape victim, brutally raped, savaged. The girl was a virgin. She was religious. She planned on saving her virginity until she was married. She was brutalized and raped, sodomized as bad as you can possibly make it, and is impregnated. I mean, that girl could be so messed up, physically and psychologically, that carrying that child could very well threaten her life.

Lazaro is the reporter and Napoli is a State Senator. Mr. Napoli also has an opinion on family values:

BILL NAPOLI: When I was growing up here in the wild west, if a young man got a girl pregnant out of wedlock, they got married, and the whole darned neighborhood was involved in that wedding. I mean, you just didn't allow that sort of thing to happen, you know? I mean, they wanted that child to be brought up in a home with two parents, you know, that whole story. And so I happen to believe that can happen again.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 02:10 PM
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11. Apparantly this guy thinks only virgins are traumatized by rape
asshole.
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TimeChaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 02:41 PM
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12. Of course!
If you have premarital sex, then you're just a slut. So if some guy rapes you, it's your own fault for being a dirty whore. And you probably enjoyed it too, you nymphomaniac. :sarcasm: :puke: :banghead: :puke:
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