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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 05:45 PM
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Dem strategists remember GOP swing vote fallout amid Clinton impeachment
Impeachment Proves
Risky Political Issue

Some Democratic Activists Push Removing Bush From Office, But Mainstream Steers Clear
By JEANNE CUMMINGS
March 6, 2006; Page A4

http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB114159845480489827-g93DzQ22Z0aYaykefmfaC_5SwSw_20070306.html?mod=blogs

But the Democratic National Committee, chaired by 2004 campaign firebrand Howard Dean has declined to chime in. A House resolution offered by Rep. John Conyers of Michigan seeking an initial impeachment inquiry has attracted support from just 26 of 201 House Democrats. Even Mr. Conyers, the ranking Judiciary Committee Democrat, allows, "This isn't something we have to do right away."

Democratic strategists remember the fallout Republicans suffered among swing voters in 1998 amid their bid to oust Mr. Clinton. The National Republican Congressional Committee sank $10 million into a last-minute advertising blitz focused on Mr. Clinton's character, only to lose five seats and see House Speaker Newt Gingrich pressured to resign.

A Bush impeachment drive could only move forward if Democrats regained control of the House from the president's party. But even then it would be an uphill fight. "At most, they could show a mistake in judgment, it seems to me," says the Rev. Robert F. Drinan of the Georgetown University Law Center, a former Democratic House member who backed seeking the impeachment of Richard Nixon in 1974 over Watergate. Michael Gerhardt, an impeachment expert at the University of North Carolina law school, says there could be a "credible basis for an inquiry," but additional facts would have to be established before anyone could "demonstrate an impeachable offense occurred."


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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 05:47 PM
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1. What is wrong with these people??
I'm beginning to wonder if even they give a damn about any of us.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 05:51 PM
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4. Nope they only care about saving their own necks....
they choose not to communicate with the Dem populace.....they have no clear message, no plan....they are going to sit around until November and hope that the Dems are able to route the repugs and gain more seats....

That begs the question what are they doing now.....they are not rallying the base....they are keeping us at an arms distance....

They are hoping Fitz will come through soon.....to take out Cheney and Rove...and everyone else involved.....

sigh....they are not being offensive...the best offense is a good defense....and I don't see anything from them...

Sigh.....
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 05:54 PM
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5. Or else they're all in collusion
and the two-party system we believe in is nothing but a perception. I really don't know anymore because no one is doing anything to even try to stop Bushco.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 05:55 PM
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7. That is a possibility.....
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 05:49 PM
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2. "Mistake in judgement"
Lying to start a war is a mistake in judgement? Purchase a clue, pal.
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 05:59 PM
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9. It's a numbers game...
Number of U.S. service men and women dead as the result of Bush lying to get us into occupation of Iraq: 2301

Number of U.S. service men and women dead as the result of Bill Clinton receiving oral sex in the Oval Office: 0

It all comes down to the numbers. Nothing to see in the Bush administration...move along, move along...

:grr:
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 05:50 PM
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3. Is being stupid a requirement for running as a Democrat?
The repubs lost because the PEOPLE liked Bill Clinton. We thought he was great and the repubs were getting annoying trying to pin anything on him. * has broken laws. People have died under *. With all the real crimes he has committed, it will keep the US gov't occupied for years. Then there are the war crime trials. I'm sure the Democrats were around in 1998. The repubs wanted to ruin the public's picture of Clinton. Even today I hear how Clinton is as bad as * because he lied. Duh! As others have asked - how many died over that blue dress?
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 05:55 PM
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6. Backlash = Controlling every corner of the government!
Thank You may I have another!
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 05:56 PM
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8. Yeah, that backlash really wiped the Republicans out, didn't it?
Lost any hope of control in govt :eyes:

And people would NEVER be able to understand how the severity of junior's crimes warrant impeachment.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 06:17 PM
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10. consider vs. be
The difference in the questions matter. One is certain impeachment, the other is only consideration. Alot of people will support considering alot of things, and then balk when they actually realize what it means in the real world. I don't think the country is ready for yet another impeachment. Nixon, Clinton, and now Bush. No, in the end, I think most people would just get pissed off that Washington won't attend to the people's business.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 06:30 PM
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11. Comparing lying about a blow job...
.. to lying to start a war. Yeah, those are REALLLLLL equivalent.

Ms. Cummings richly deserves the Sendero Daily Douchebag award, for trying so hard to make a point and only making the intellectual equivalent of a doody.
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