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killerbush Donating Member (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 05:10 PM
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Hillary beats Guiliani in New York poll.
Rasmussen polling is reporting, via Foxnews, that Sen. Hillary Clinton beats former mayor Rudy Guiliani in a heads up contest in New York. Clinton winds up with 48% of the vote, while Rudy gets 39%
I really don't know if this means much nationally, but at least in New York state, Clinton gets the edge. One thing I do know, the Republican party will NEVER elect Rudy Guiliani or John Mc.Cain in their primaries. Both are considered too liberal for the loony right wing base to handle. Also, Hillary has pretty high negatives herself. One wonders if she can be elected if her negatives don't go down some.
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SofaKingLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 05:12 PM
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1. yay!
:popcorn:
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JudyM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 05:21 PM
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6. What is that photo? Do you have a larger version? Cute.
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SofaKingLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 06:38 PM
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14. Sam, the worlds ugliest dog. RIP
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JudyM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 10:39 AM
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18. Yowza. Was he yours? Looks like he lived to a ripe old age.
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SofaKingLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 02:40 PM
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21. No, he wasn't mine. There's more info here:
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JudyM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 11:59 PM
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27. What a story, what a message. Like Elephant Man, really poignant.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 10:26 AM
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31. What happen to Sam's fur?
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catmother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 05:13 PM
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2. McCain is not liberal -- he's quite conservative -- he has a lot
of people fooled. god help us if he becomes president. so hillary can win new york. that's no surprise. it's the rest of the country.
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killerbush Donating Member (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 05:17 PM
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3. Mc.Cain may not be a moderate like you say
But that didn't stop the southern GOP from sliming him to the hilt.
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killerbush Donating Member (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 05:29 PM
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8. Mc.Cain
Does have his hands pretty low. (A Brokeback Mountain moment??)
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 05:19 PM
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4. And I think he has the Monkey by the balls, frankly
Remember how he campaigned with him? The sweaty embrace? Then, the cake-eating....

They've made some sort of accomodation, and I think it includes an endorsement of McCain, or possibly, if Dick departs, McCain gets the VP slot.

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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 05:22 PM
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7. He's gonna pork him dad.
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catmother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 05:30 PM
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9. check out this link
Edited on Mon Mar-06-06 05:31 PM by catmother
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 06:07 PM
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11. He was reprimanded for having poor judgment, and paid back the
Keating dough to the Treasury.

I remember the whole brouhaha quite well. He and John Glenn escaped with slaps on the wrist.

He has successfully swatted this fly before. He scream PARTISAN ATTACK!!! and the media will back off. Unless we get a Rove-like attack dog to fan the flames...and that could backfire.

Quite frankly, I think he has made some more recent decisions that he can be nailed on. Going back that far, the defense will be "They got nuttin...so they are digging up OLD stuff!"
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catmother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 09:16 PM
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16. yes. it was in the 80s -- i was back and forth from new york to
phoenix -- we were getting ready to move here and i remember it was all over the news. he also has a bad temper. i heard that at a meeting he got so angry that he passed out. imagine him with his finger on the button.
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skylarmae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 05:19 PM
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5. No Hillary - No Hillary - not in this generation.
have to wait until enough Clinton haters die off before the numbers make it possible for her to have the majority. As she stands now, unelectible...too much hate baggage for the blowjob haters of the world to handle....
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catmother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 05:36 PM
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10. you're absolutely right. the rwingers keep saying she's too
liberal. everything she's done lately is too far to the right for me. of course, her health care bill was brought up. these rwingers act like universal health care is going to destroy the country. meanwhile they're destroying it with their lies and their religious bullshit.
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 06:09 PM
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12. NY might be the only state Hillary would win if we make the mistake
of nominating her.
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July Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 06:33 PM
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13. McCain -- liberal? Who believes that?
Meanwhile, Hillary has GAINED support among Republicans in her state, so who knows? I never would have thought that a patent moron like GWB could be elected dogcatcher, let alone nearly win the presidency and then steal it with the aid of Dad's pals, and I remember thinking Nixon was done after his early attempts, too. So, never say never.
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killerbush Donating Member (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 08:41 PM
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15. A lot of right wingers
Believe Mc.Cain is a liberal.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:22 AM
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17. Good for Hillary...
She's popular in NY. That's beeen pretty well known as indicated by theh fact that thee pukes found no one credible to run against her.

But that means little if anything nationally. She shhould stay in the seenate.
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DemDogs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 10:40 AM
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19. Last week, different poll, just the opposite result. (n/t)
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 12:12 PM
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20. Rudy's standing in New York is way-y-y-y-y down....
Thank Bernie Kerik and the Chimp.....
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mikeanike Donating Member (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 05:24 PM
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22. That sucks for Gulliani
When it comes to NY but in the rest of the country he is the most popular politician out there. http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/03/07/060307155356.z2o6i78w.html

I still maintain as I have in previous threads that he is the de facto repub candidate. And Allen will be the VP running mate!
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 05:28 PM
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23. Hillary has a 60% approval rating.
Rudy has no future in politics.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 06:06 PM
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24. It seems to me beating Guiliani by 9% is a lot more than
edging it.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 06:12 PM
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25. I want Giuliani to run for something, just so I can watch him get beat
That would give me great satisfaction. yeah
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 12:25 AM
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29. I remember when he was a big freakin' joke.
Running around NY with his mistress. 9/11 doesn't erase that.
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 07:01 PM
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26. Worry about this crap during the primary.
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Muddy Waters Guitar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 12:23 AM
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28. McCain's actually gaining some traction with the GOP
McCain backed both of Bush's ultraconservative Supreme Court justices, which made him golden in the eyes of a lot of Rethug doubters. Plus, McCain also backed some pretty big-time budget bills for the GOP recently, and he's even made nice with the nutter wing.

McCain scares me. In a national poll, he'd be wicked tough to beat, even by a sunny widely popular southern Dem like Clark or Warner.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 01:55 AM
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30. I hope this is an indication that New York will remain loyally blue
for many election cycles to come.

The bluer the better -- for all 50 states.

Giuliani is unelectable nationwide. He isn't much of a speaker and the 9/11 hero bit wears thin with each passing realization by the national electorate that Bush lied to get us to war.

Giuliani rode high on that wave when it was hot. Now it's cooled considerably and he's due for a crash landing on the shoals of obscurity.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 10:34 AM
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32. That's because so many New Yorkers HATE Guiliani. NT
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 10:35 AM
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33. I think Hillary would do about as well as Dukakis.
Sure, she might win CA, NY and some other true blue New England states, but that's it.
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