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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 08:37 PM
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Will white male conservatives vote for Kerry in November?
Edited on Sun Feb-01-04 08:37 PM by bluestateguy
I'm talking about white male conservatives, who listen to talk radio, fly the confederate flag, dislike gays, blacks, Hispanics and Muslims. White male conservaties, who want to bomb any nation that crosses the US to rubble, and spend trillions on weapons and bombs. White male conservatives, who piss, moan, whine and complain about taxes, no matter how low they go. White male conservatives, who never much liked the idea of women in the workplace or in the military, and favor an outright ban on all aborton. White male conservatives, who think God has chosen George W. Bush for the presidency.

Can John Kerry win votes from these people in November?

;)
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KissMyAsscroft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 08:39 PM
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1. Hopefully those people won't vote at all...
nt
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sallyseven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 08:44 PM
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Most likely not
They won't vote democrat at all.
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sallyseven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 08:44 PM
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3. Most likely not
They won't vote democrat at all.
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dansolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 10:53 PM
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23. They might vote for Bush because Kerry is the nominee
Kerry is exactly the type of liberal candidate that the GOP has been feasting on with their Southern strategy. Even though people may be disappointed with Bush, to them he might be viewed as the lesser of two evils.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 08:43 PM
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2. The question is, will they vote for George?
They voted for him last time. He hasn't acquired any new votes (unless you know of any). Will he keep the ones he had?

I say they're dropping like flies.
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arewethereyet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 08:47 PM
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4. they will roll their eyes at Kerry and vote for George in droves
as always.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 08:49 PM
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5. If They Vote With Their Brain
vs their heart
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 08:50 PM
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6. That's your mainstream, average voter. Some of them are mad at bush

right now because they don't understand that his "guest worker program" is a vaporware scheme for getting some disposable soldiers for crusade expansion.

A lot of them also feel that the government hasn't done all it could to root out sleeper cells and suspected sympathizers of terrorist causes right here in the US, and they would like to see Washington take a tougher stand on stamping out anti-American sentiment.

They are ripe for the picking, all Kerry or any candidate has to do is make plain their resolve to address these issues.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 08:50 PM
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7. well, McLaughlin claimed Republicans would vote for Edwards
because of his Southern accent (he really did say that on his show this AM), but I don't know how much stock to put in that! :-)
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mlawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 08:54 PM
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13. Yeah, right, whatever.
Either McLaughlin was making a poor joke, or he is losing it. No repuke president has ever had a Southern accent. And no, GWB doesn't, either.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 08:58 PM
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16. maybe his point was that a number of Republicans voted for Clinton
and Carter before him, enabling them to win.
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YouMustBeKiddingMe Donating Member (421 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 08:51 PM
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8. You are describing die hard Bush supporters
No, they won't vote for Kerry. None of the Democratic candidates would even waste time going after this freeper demographic. These are died in the wool Republicans.
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 10:32 PM
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21. but there are repukes
who feel "at least when that bastard Clinton was president, I had a job ..."

Some of those types will crossover because they're mad at Bush. But they will only cross the line for the right guy and that perosn is not Kerry. Clark, yes; Edwards, yes (he sounds like us and grew up in a milltown ...).
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mlawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 08:51 PM
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9. If they wouldn't vote for Gore, why would
they vote for Kerry??? The types mentioned in the original post, they are so extreme that if they vote at all, it will be for bush. Forget them, they are not available to us.

But 'white males' who are not extreme, and maybe not even political, they are available to us, if we nominate the right candidate. One they feel they can ID with at a personal level.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 08:52 PM
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10. maybe we could schedule a day long Super Bowl on election day
and keep them on their couches. Just kidding! I like football too.

I wish I were wrong, but I don't think anyone except Arnold running as a Democrat could win their votes for the Dems.
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 08:53 PM
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11. Quite Simply, No
My family is filled with them, & they won't.

I had a very long discussion with my son, who is very liberal socially, but militarily & fiscally more moderate. He also lived in North Carolina for 4 years, & when I discussed Kerry with him, he just laughed & laughed.

Of all the conservative guys I know, they will either vote for Bush, stay home, or vote Indy.

This is one of the reasons I have not been too enthused about Kerry.

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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 08:56 PM
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15. I Should Add
I'm not talking Freeper types who hate everyone & are biased.

I'm talking former vets who consider themselves Repubs or Indys, & are fiscally conservative. They are not religious fanatics, either, but most are more conservative socially than Dems.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 08:53 PM
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12. Yes
If they are vets, absolutely. If they are sick of Bush's lies, absolutely. If they are moderates, absolutely.

Actually you are lumping "white male conservatives" into a convenient stereotype.
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windansea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 08:56 PM
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14. probly not
:dem:
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bain_sidhe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 08:58 PM
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17. No, they'll come out to vote AGAINST Kerry in Nov.
Now, if the Democratic candidate was somebody like, oh, f'rinstance, some good ole soldier-boy like Wes Clark (jus' for an example, you understand) they might just stay home, not being all riled up about defending the great state (sic) of 'Murka from the evil libruls.

;)
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 09:25 PM
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19. Wes Clark seems to makes gun control more of an issue than Kerry...
That might scare away the far right.
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 08:58 PM
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18. I know many white male conservatives that are DEMS -
they are mostly professional and well educated - and, yes, they will vote for Kerry.
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 10:47 PM
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22. wrong
I'm a physician working in academic medicine among southern, conservative white males with Ph.D and M.D. after they're names. They vote GOP, I guess because of the tax/big gov't issue that the GOP has used so effectively.

They know all too well how I feel and several have admitted to me that they would/could vote for a Dem this time because of some disenchantment with Bush. Most have been leaning toward Clark and a few toward Lieberman (gag) but not one has mentioned Kerry other than to say that he reminded them of Gore whom they couldn't stand :shrug:
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 09:27 PM
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20. Maybe if they are out of work...
And Kerry finds away to particularly appeal to these people. My theory is that the way to win the far right is to appeal to them in some way that doesn't involve social issues. If we can tell them that we support what really affects their lives then we might get their votes.
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