ALERT...Anti-War-Katherine Harris March In Sarasota County Set!

[ChiciB1]

I already posted this at GD, but to me THIS event is very important. From the county of Cruella, New College students have organized an Anti-War/Katherine Harris March to take place 3/18/2006.

If you are interested (and I hope you are) please check out this blog. http://www.floridaforpeace.blogspot.com it will give you all the information. Many of you may not know, but this county is just about the "most red" county in all of Florida and the fact that these students have been so vigilant in their opposition to the War and her, really makes me proud.

It's not easy to be so outspoken here and for me as a former Hippie I'm encouraged by their spunk!

I haven't run into very many from this county here at DU (only two in fact) but I'm going to be there and feel it's my obligation to round up as many people as I can. I know there is so much more news going on right now, but I will keep posting this, if it's allowed.

You may also reach them by email at [e-mail]!

[ChiciB1]

1. Still Trying To Get This Information Out!

[Jeffersons Ghost]

6. here's a vote and kick

I like publicizing protests... Our 1st Amend is like the others: "use them or lose them, Darwin teaches.

[donsu]

2. kicking

nt

[Jeffersons Ghost]

3. as a current hippie

I say once a hippie always a hippie. I've been wodering if all these retro-dressed kids are only clothes and no kick! :kick:

[ChiciB1]

4. The Two Main Guys Who Had Organized This Are Actually

not Goth nor Retro! I think one of them already served in the military. They have stayed hard at work... they are HUGE Anti-Bush people!

[Jeffersons Ghost]

5. I became a REAL hippie only after military service

that's how it was during 'Nam in many cases... I wish I could make it to the protest but it's deep in South Fla isn't it?

[ChiciB1]

9. No, We're On The West Coast... Very Close To Tampa

I know a lot about the military... I grew up in a military family! I lived at Ft. Hood, TX from the time I was in the sixth grade and graduated from Killeen High School, the town where it's located!

Then after I got married we stayed until I was 27 before moving to FL because my husband was born in Tampa.

I knew many many classmates who were in Nam, and also knew some who lost their lives. Saw their names on the Wall! But I was actually introduced to politics by my late father when I was 12 years old. Caught the bug early and this is either an addiction or a hobby! Either way, I'm still at it and never more angry in my life!!

These people MUST GO! All of them! Thanks for your reply, again! It's so very important that we have many people attending to show Cruella we mean BUSINESS! I'm going to print up flyers and put them in mail boxes myself! Hope I don't get caught.

[Jeffersons Ghost]

10. which Cruella Image do you like best (worst)?

This

or this

[ChiciB1]

11. They Both Make Her Look Too Good!

I've seen her in person... She's a DOG, She's a Hound-Dog!

Oh my, I just dated myself!

[Jeffersons Ghost]

12. and she ain't ever caught a rabbit and ain't no friend of mine?

[ChiciB1]

13. Oh, For The Good Ole Days Of REVOLUTION!!

Bob Dylan, Joan Baez, and one of my real favorite JACKSON BROWN!! I wish they would pick it up again!

Jackson's song "Lives In The Balance" written in the 80's totally applies today. Uncanny!

[Jeffersons Ghost]

14. yep I bought Jackson Brown cause I loved it as much as many of my GFs

Dylan and Joanie were cool and Joanie did a little out-door festival that I was a too young to attend at 13 with Country Joe and the Fish... I updated this little chant by them.

Yeah, come on all of you, big strong men,
Uncle Sam needs your help again.
He's got himself in a terrible jam
Way out yonder in Iran
So put down your books and pick up a gun,
We're gonna have a whole lotta fun.
And it's one, two, three,
What are we fighting for ?
Don't ask me, I don't give a damn,
Reminds me of Vietnam;
And it's five, six, seven,
Open up the pearly gates,
Well there ain't no time to wonder why,
Whoopee! we're all gonna die.

Well, come on generals, let's move fast;
Your big chance has come at last.
Gotta go get those towel-heads —
The only good Muslim is one who's dead
And you know that peace can only be won
When we've blown 'um all to kingdom come.
And it's one, two, three,
What are we fighting for ?
Don't ask me, I don't give a damn,
Next stop is in Iran;
And it's five, six, seven,
Open up the pearly gates,
Well there ain't no time to wonder why
Whoopee! we're all gonna die.

Huh!
Well, come on Wall Street, don't move slow,
Why man, this is war au-go-go.
There's plenty good money to be made
By supplying the Army with the tools of the trade,
Just hope and pray if they drop some nukes,
They don’t drop it on our own troops.
And it's one, two, three,
What are we fighting for ?
Don't ask me, I don't give a damn,
Reminds me of Vietnam.
And it's five, six, seven,
Open up the pearly gates,
Well there ain't no time to wonder why
Whoopee! we're all gonna die.

Well, come on mothers, now don’t be sad
Pack your boys off to Baghdad.
Come on fathers, don't hesitate,
Send 'em off before it's too late.
Be the first one on your block
To have your child come home in a box.
And it's one, two, three
What are we fighting for ?
Don't ask me, I don't give a damn,
Next stop is in Iran.
And it's five, six, seven,
Open up the pearly gates,
Well there ain't no time to wonder why,
Whoopee! we're all gonna die.

[ChiciB1]

16. Arlo Guthrie Did It First I Believe...

I don't know if they are still doing it, but a long time ago PBS would have film footage of jam sessions and concerts of different singers and I taped a lot of them. I have some real old stuff of Dylan & Baez, Arlo and Jackson and Moody Blues. Every once in a while I take them out and watch them.

I need to get them converted to DVD, but never have. The above song was one that was just so easy to sing along with! Baez was at the 9/24/2005 march in D.C. and sang, but they weren't the old ones. I have a lot of her, Dylan and Jackson. Along with many others from that time! Tom Petty was good getting at RayGun... I Won't Back Down... taped him too.

Your song here was one that was so popular during Viet Nam! The soldiers back then, because most had been drafted were certainly different than those today. It was just a horrible shame!

[Jeffersons Ghost]

17. I dodged the draft in '72

by joining Navy Air and flying out of Cecil field in a p3 I avoided getting parachuted into 'Nam.

[Spike from MN]

7. Did you post this in the Florida forum too?

Might not be a bad idea. Kudos to the Florida For Peace group for sticking to their guns and not allowing themselves to be intimidated by the right-wingers.

[ChiciB1]

8. Yes, I Posted A GD, & Florida Plus Here!

I just posted to the thread about Katherine Harris and her connections to Cunningham!

I'm really trying. We are going to meet at New College on the 6th for extra planning and make banners. Also will march near New College before the bigger March!

[Jeffersons Ghost]

15. I thought checking the stars on the date of the protest might be fun

Look, it's all water in the prime aspects SUN-PISCES, MOON-SCORPIO AND CANCER RISING!

[ChiciB1]

18. Wow! Now Here's A Place That Will Really Take Up A Lot Of My

time. Are you into ASTROLOGY? You know Sun signs were a big part of the late 60'se and 70's. I have several Linda Goodman books, and also some Palmistry books.

I've never really done any in depth studies, but it fascinates me. I can't even follow any of this. I see the web site, is it a help or do you have to have extra knowledge?

I went to Casedega (sp) here in FL once, it's supposed to have some of the best physics in the U.S. It was pretty revealing and I still have the tape and check it out at times. They tell you to do that, but I know that physics can also be "taught" but I have had many deja vue experiences.

Wish I had some about The Idiot!

[Jeffersons Ghost]

19. here's something neat on the village idiot!

One of the lynchpins of predictive astrology is the recurrent cycles of planets. Simply put, when planets return to certain areas of the sky they correspond to conditions on planet Earth. This dates way back to when Chaldean magis spied the skies from temple towers in search of the fates of Kings and Caliphs.

Transferring this to today’s political scene would place the spotlight on the world's most powerful post; that of the President of the United States.

Whether a President will reign supreme or be eclipsed is a question most astrologers, and political commentators would like to be able to answer.

High Mortality Rate of U.S. Presidents

The American Presidency has a high mortality rate that would deter most life insurance brokers. One in five dies in office. And the event seems to occur with some regularity. Enough to give astrologers reason to examine it for planetary significance. Much has been written about this, but the research is miniscule in comparison with what is a truly principal event.

In looking for an initial pattern, America's leading astrologer of the 19th century Dr. L. Broughton linked presidential death in office to the Jupiter-Saturn alignments in the earth signs. When these two planetary heavyweights come together every twenty years, they usually occupy the same element (fire, earth, air or water) for a whole two hundred and forty years.

Therefore, when Ronald Reagan survived the assassin's bullet in March of 1981 most astrologers attributed this to the fact that the Jupiter-Saturn conjunction occurred in the air sign of Libra. Reagan's life, and Broughton's theory, were spared.

Allowing for an eerie ring of truth regarding Broughton's hypothesis, determining the volatile time window eludes most astrologers. The Presidents in question had been sworn in at the cycles’ commencement, but often died well into it— and in Roosevelt's case, nearly five years after the Jupiter-Saturn conjunction. A more accurate astrological timing measure will be required for any useful predictive application describing danger to the leader.

Neptune Could Be the Key

I'd like to put my head on the proverbial predictive chopping block with a new line of thought. I found three initial constants in the death of US Presidents. The first was a connection with a planet barely used in Broughton's time, the distant gas giant Neptune.

Singularly, the Neptune factor is the greatest planetary influence concurrent with Presidential demise. In six out of eight cases of a President dying in office, Neptune was forming a hard aspect to the same point. The odds of this happening exceeded three thousand to one. In fact every time Neptune has been in the middle degrees(16 to 17) of a fixed sign a President has died in office. Neptune moves into this sensitive area in between March and July of 2005, and in January of 2006, and then makes a return in late August and not departing until December.
President Death Date Transiting Neptune
William Harrison
Apr. 4, 1841 16 Aquarius 30
James Garfield
Sep. 19, 1881 15 Taurus 58
Warren Harding
Aug. 2, 1923 16 Leo 40
John Kennedy
Nov.22, 1963 15 Scorpio 55

If we are to use the Sibley chart for the USA (July 4, 1776, 5:10 am) this whole finding may make some sense. The Midheaven of this chart is the second degree of Libra. Astrologically the Midheaven represents the leader and administration. Each time a planet reached the middle degrees of a fixed sign it would form a 45-degree semi-square of 135-degree sesquisquare hard aspect to this Libran Midheaven. The widest orb for any of these aspects was for Franklin D. Roosevelt who suddenly died of a brain hemorrhage when Neptune had moved three degrees past the conjunction to the Midheaven.

While the recurrence of Neptune is interesting, planets do not work in isolation, but rather as an orchestration of energies. The next planet in from Neptune is Uranus. It's the “jack in the box” of startle and surprise. It could be associated with sudden death, or assassination. Uranus exhibited a definite pattern. It was mostly in mutable signs, at the ratio of seven out of eight times, during a Presidential death in office. Remarkable enough, even with such a small sample. For Presidents Garfield and Kennedy, both gunned down, Uranus returned to within the degree of the 360 degree zodiac, and was angled for the deaths of both McKinley and Roosevelt.

* Garfield Uranus 10 Vir 34
* McKinley Uranus 12 Sag 59
* Roosevelt Uranus 10 Gem 24
* Kennedy Uranus 09 Vir 49

The last planet considered in this brief synopsis is Saturn—for the ancients the harbinger of death. In six out of eight cases Saturn was in a cardinal sign for the death of a President. That is not unusual as the Sun is in the cardinal sign of Cancer in the horoscope of the USA, and in hard aspect to Saturn itself. Any appearance of Saturn in a fellow cardinal sign would simply re-activate the pattern.

During 2005-06 Neptune returns to the fatal degrees of the fixed signs, as Uranus weaves its way again through the middle degrees of mutable. Meanwhile Saturn meanders through cardinal Cancer for the first six months of 2005. While ethical considerations preclude drawing any further conclusions, the times of maximum danger for a President are as early as April-May 2005, and the middle of June 2005. There also seems to be a conglomeration of factors coincident to April, August and September of 2006.

These factors may be merely coincidental and it may be folly to believe that the stars dictate the precise fate of the kings today. But we may be even greater fools to be ignorant to their influence altogether.

[ChiciB1]

20. Well Here's One For Neptune!

April sounds good to me!

Personally, although I'm not that knowledgeable about the complete context you've provided, I've always had great respect to what one might simply call "Mother Nature."

You always hear from doctors about how a full moon affects the emergency cases they deal with at this time. The oceans are measured by tides. The seasons are dictated by the axis of the planet and on and on. So astrologically speaking, this makes a lot of sense to me.

I have some theories of my own that aren't easily explained, but I don't want to be called a non-christian. The universe and it's complexities are very influential though! I'll leave it at that.