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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 01:04 PM
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What does it say about repub's when they are more upset about the ports
and their sale to the Dubai Co. than they ever seemed to be over Katrina and the treatment of the storms affected citizens?

If you had to choose between the two to express your ire, which would it be for you?
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Dunvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 01:05 PM
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1. Easy. Katrina. American citizens left to die. An major city left to die.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 01:08 PM
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3. Setting aside my opinions of the port deal, it just strikes me as so odd
the outrage is so immediate from the right in regard to the port sale, which mainly forebodes trouble, as opposed to the Katrina debacle which clearly DEMONSTRATED trouble. Weird.
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 01:06 PM
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2. y-knot both...
I'd like to see all Americans and all serious issues treated with respect...

... no matter which Americans or which part of the country that issue affects.

Sue
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 01:09 PM
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5. No argument there. But why are the righties so weirded out by the ports
when they were clearly so quiet on Katrina? What is the difference?
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 01:08 PM
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4. I'm more pissed about Katrina
But the republicans really bought into this "war on terror" over the last few years.

Remember, to them, Al-Qaeda, Afghanistan, Iraq, Osama, Saddam are all lumped together. Why should UAE be any different?

I'm more pissed about Katrina because they just stood by while one of the country's greatest cities drowned. Regardless of whether the mayor evacuated in time or the governor did this or that, the bottom line is, nobody did anything for four fucking days while the world watched. That is inexusable.

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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 01:13 PM
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8. I too, was appalled by the response to Katrina and clearly its still
undeniable that there is next to nothing IN a response. I guess what I was getting at with my query is what belief set do you have to have to minimize the effects of Katrina, whilst magnifying a "what if" scenario with the port sale?
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 01:21 PM
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16. In Katrina, it was mostly poor blacks who died
They consider the ports' deal a threat to white americans.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 01:26 PM
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20. And then it bespeaks a racial issue as well
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 01:45 PM
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26. It set racial relationships back 50 years in this country, IMO
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 01:52 PM
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28. Yes it has. Another debacle by design by Bush/Rove
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HeavyHemi Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 01:10 PM
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6. Most affected were not GOP voters.
You can be sure if this happened in an area with more "upper class" citizens the response and follow up would have been much quicker. Look at when Florida was hit. Contrast with the difference in the rebuilding efforts.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 01:14 PM
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10. Welcome Heavy, ...so for you it appears to be not only a safety issue
regarding repub. reactions, but an economical one as well. Interesting.
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HeavyHemi Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 04:13 PM
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31. Well...not really a safety issue.
It just appears obvious that in what might be called the less 'prosperous' area, not nearly the same effort has been made. It has been 6 months and many areas still look the same as the day after the storm. I don't recall that being the case for say, Florida.

http://www.fema.gov/news/newsrelease.fema?id=17555

contrasted with this:

http://www.fema.gov/news/newsrelease.fema?id=23798
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 01:12 PM
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7. Katrina without a doubt. The way fellow Americans have been
treated is a travesty I will never get over, while fearing for the upcoming hurricane seasons and poor reactions we're bound to see again.
Having said that, it's nice to know 'something' irks these people!
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 01:16 PM
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12. Yes it is nice to see them whine about something besides Clinton
Watching the Katrina "reality" show was like watching the old newsfilms of Nam'.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 01:13 PM
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9. They are both part of the same meta issue of who is taking responsibility
for America. You can wonder about both, and throw in the entire Iraq war, public health, and letting Osama escape as well.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 01:17 PM
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13. I know they are all related and they clearly could know they are all
related, yet the reaction is so unexpected. Its as though they feel cheated of having the "inside" information.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 01:15 PM
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11. The party of "me" vs the party of "we"
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 01:18 PM
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14. It seems as though the "me" part assumes that they own 'port' America
Or thought they did.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 01:22 PM
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17. Katrina was geographically contained and affected the poor (mostly).
If you didn't live in NOLA or had insurance and could get out, you were fine.

Nobody gives a damn who runs the ports for the sake of economics, geopolitics, etc. It's all about "if the terra-ists can smuggle in a dirty bomb or a bio/chem agent, it could kill ME!"
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 01:25 PM
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18. Another example of the crass about the class issue then..
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RufusEarl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 01:21 PM
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15. Katrina victims were and still are considered,
by this administration as to be dispensable. The only concern this Admin has for that area, are the ports and waterways. The underclass of NO are doomed, and will be replaced.

As far as the current port debacle goes, concerns the way this admin has been handling or not handling the terrorist problem. The admin have been using fear to keep their ideology moving forward.

This has confused the weak minded americans that bought there scare tactics after 9-11, the feeble minded that bought the fear mongering from Bush, can't understand why all of a sudden they shouldn't fear the arabs in Dubai. One has to remember the americans that bought the fear tactic in the first place are pretty simpled minded.

This is a great opening to show the man behind the curtain, now if someone will step forward and shine light on the fear mongering that's been going on in this country since 9-11 it will help to bring down this administration.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 01:29 PM
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22. So it never really got thru their thick skulls that Katrina has been the
federal gov't under Bush means essentially, 'you're all on your own',
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Shelor Donating Member (83 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 01:26 PM
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19. Shrub has lost control of his own party
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 01:31 PM
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23. To look at the things that the righties get bent about..Shaivo, H. Myers,
and now this port sale, the logic, if there is any, just does not make any sense to me.
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Burning Water Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 01:28 PM
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21. That the cowards are
concerned only for their own skins from the dangers of "terrarist Ayrabs", and figure the Katrina victims can take care of themselves??
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 01:32 PM
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24. These people really haven't moved away from 911 at all have they...
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Burried News Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 01:34 PM
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25. Skin color drives a lot of the ReTHUGlican base and explains
their position on both N.O. and the UAE

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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 01:53 PM
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29. Which of course is univerally denied
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 01:47 PM
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27. Could it be that the failure of Katrina opened their eyes a little? Shrub
poll numbers have been steadily dropping, Iraq becomes worse each day and for the past 5 years - they've been prompted to live in abject fear of all things Middle Eastern.

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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 01:53 PM
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30. And they'll be first to welcome them w/open arms if there is a buck
to be made.
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