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Ugnmoose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 02:12 PM
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If you believe the media tanked Dean - read this!
http://makethemaccountable.com/podvin/media/040201_TheScream.htm

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On December 1, 2003, Howard Dean was ahead by twenty points in the polls when he appeared on Hardball with Chris Matthews and said, “We're going to break up the giant media enterprises.” This pronouncement went far beyond the governor’s previous public musings about possibly re-regulating the communications industry, and amounted to a declaration of war on the corporations that administer the flow of information in the United States.

It was an extraordinarily noble and dangerous thing to do: when he advocated a truly free press, Dr. Dean was provoking the corrupt media conglomerates that control what most Americans see and hear and read, and thereby control what most Americans think.

The media giants quickly responded by crushing his high-flying campaign with the greatest of ease. This time, they didn’t even have to invent a scandal in order to achieve the desired result; merely by chanting the word “unelectable” at maximum volume, the mainstream media maneuvered Democratic voters into switching their support to someone who poses no threat to the status quo.

My comment: We can only have a true democracy when we have a truly unbiased and objective mainstream media. Period and end of case!

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Mass_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 02:18 PM
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1. Agreed
with your comment. I think we should aim for the BBC. Good news.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 02:18 PM
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2. I'ts pretty sad..
that so many Dems took the "unelectable" bait.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 02:22 PM
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3. Sad, isn't it?
I personally don't think any of the major Democratic candidates are "unelectable" in 2004. Too many people hate Bush.

By the way, I LOVE your DU name. I want to put that on a t-shirt.
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Ugnmoose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 02:24 PM
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6. Fully agree
Once the nominee is determine the hate Bushers will rally and support whomever it is.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 02:33 PM
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10. Thank you. n/t
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anti-NAFTA Donating Member (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 02:24 PM
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4. Duh.
No one can win without the permission of Viacom, Time Warner, General Electric, and/or News Corp.
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 02:24 PM
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5. Read this from The Black Commentator
http://blackcommentator.org/75/75_cover_dean_media.html

Howard Dean has joined the list of victims of U.S. corporate media consolidation. Dean shares this distinction with Dennis Kucinich and the people of the formerly sovereign state of Iraq, among many others. Dean was stripped of half his popular support in the space of two weeks in January while John Kerry – tied in the polls with Carol Moseley-Braun at seven percent just two months earlier – rose like a genie from a bottle to become the overnight presidential frontrunner. Both candidates were shocked and disoriented by the dizzying turns of fortune, and for good reason. Neither Dean nor Kerry had done anything on their own that could have so dramatically altered the race. Corporate America decided that Dean must be savaged, and its media sector made it happen.

MORE...
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 02:25 PM
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7. And you'll never hear the ESTABLISHMENT candidates running
even mention the media. They love em!
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 02:26 PM
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8. Kerry was declared dead so his fundraising would dry up. WHY??? The media
was doing Rove's work to get Kerry off the national stage early so they pushed Dean down our throats for most of last year.

The media created a Dean bubble and they were shown to be liars in Iowa and NH.
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 02:43 PM
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12. Yeah. Right.
:eyes:

The same mainstream media that characterized Dean as "angry", and had negative covers about alleged doubts surrounding him going into Iowa, and that tried to dimiss him early into the campaign?

http://www.progressive.org/sept03/rc0903.html
http://www.nypress.com/17/1/news&columns/cage.cfm
http://www.prospect.org/print/V15/1/yglesias-m.html
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/040104/nysu018_1.html
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 02:49 PM
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14. Name one media outlet that didn't declare Kerry dead for months.
Dean was being scrutinized after he was made the frontrunner for months with plenty of money in his campaign coffers.

The more Kerry and Edwards were declared dead and irrelevant for so many months the more their donations dried up.

They pulled through in SPITE of the media. Real deals pull through.
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 02:53 PM
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15. In all seriousness:
Can you provide links for major media stories saying Kerry's campaign was dead?

I honestly would like to see them and compare them with the coverage Dean received.

And regarding Dean's media coverage: He got that, if memory serves, after we raised like a million dollars or something in two days with small donations in response to a Cheney fatcat fundraiser. That's when the mainstream media began taking him seriously.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 02:53 PM
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16. How could his fundraising "dry up"..
when he was putting millions of his own dollars into his campaign?

Dean was destroyed by the media ("elect this man") and Kerry was propped up as a statesman who looked Presidential.
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patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 02:29 PM
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9. The real hope for America is Dean - he will do everything he can to see
that the media is not taken over by only a few. When the media is safely harnessed, the internet will be next. The take-over of America by one party will be complete.

There is still a chance - elect Gov. Dean.
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buckeye1 Donating Member (630 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 02:41 PM
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11. Sorry.
Dean had great media for many months. He had plenty of money and lots of grass roots supporters and an early jump on the others.

If Dean had finished second or a strong third he might have been credible but Iowa demonstrated that his campaign just doesn't work.

Politics are about wining. It seems that Dean is not able. Time will tell,but Dean seems to have been left behind.

Clark supporter here,because he would be the best for these horrible times.
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NewHampster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 02:45 PM
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13. Full text of Hardball
Hard to find so here it is

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3607157/

the telling part is below...

MATTHEWS: Well, how about large media enterprises?

DEAN: Let me-yes, let me get...

(LAUGHTER)

DEAN: The answer to that is yes.

I would say that there is too much penetration by single corporations in media markets all over this country. We need locally-owned radio stations. There are only two or three radio stations left in the state of Vermont where you can get local news anymore. The rest of it is read and ripped from the AP.

MATTHEWS: So what are you going to do about it? You’re going to be president of the United States, what are you going to do?

DEAN: What I’m going to do is appoint people to the FCC that believe democracy depends on getting information from all portions of the political spectrum, not just one.

MATTHEWS: Well, would you break up GE?

(APPLAUSE)

DEAN: I can’t-you...

MATTHEWS: GE just buys Universal. Would you do something there about that? Would you stop that from happening?

DEAN: You can’t say-you can’t ask me right now and get an answer, would I break up X corp...

MATTHEWS: We’ve got to do it now, because now is the only chance we can ask you, because, once you are in, we have got to live with you.

(LAUGHTER)

DEAN: No.

MATTHEWS: So, if you are going to do it, you have got to tell us now.

(CROSSTALK)

MATTHEWS: Are you going to break up the giant media enterprises in this country?

DEAN: Yes, we’re going to break up giant media enterprises. That doesn’t mean we’re going to break up all of GE.

What we’re going to do is say that media enterprises can’t be as big as they are today. I don’t think we actually have to break them up, which Teddy Roosevelt had to do with the leftovers from the McKinley administration.

(CROSSTALK)

MATTHEWS: ... regulate them.

DEAN: You have got to say that there has to be a limit as to how-if the state has an interest, which it does, in preserving democracy, then there has to be a limitation on how deeply the media companies can penetrate every single community. To the extent of even having two or three or four outlets in a single community, that kind of information control is not compatible with democracy.

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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 02:56 PM
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17. I Think Trigger Locks are a MUCH More Important Issue
Don't you?

:evilfrown:
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