Ever think about life AFTER Bush is impeached?

[Dhampir Kampf]

Assuming that he IS, and is kicked out of office.

I don't know what protocal is for this type of situation..but wouldn't Cheney take over if Bush gets the boot?

That's worse that having Bush as president in my opinion.

Only way that we would see relief, is if Bush, Inc. was removed. (Rumsfeld, Rice, Rove, Cheney)

Am I totally off here?

Help me out.

[Hardrada]

1. Gotta lock 'em all up!

[Lone_Wolf]

12. Yep... this criminal cabal has been around since Nixon

n/t

[babylonsister]

2. Think whirling dirvish; it will gain speed and take them all down! nt

[dolstein]

3. Have you ever considered a more productive use of your time?

After all, George Bush will never be impeached. Even if the Democrats were to regain one or both houses of Congress, they won't have the votes to remove him from office.

Is there really a point to obsessing over things that will never happen? Why not obsess over something like global warming instead?

[Catch22Dem]

5. Thinking about it doesn't make it an obsession

Lighten up a little. Not every minute of every day needs to be devoted to a cause. We all have to stop and dream about something.

[Dhampir Kampf]

7. Honestly, I couldn't agree more.

This post was just hypothetical.

Most of my other posts have shown that I highly doubt that he will be.

I was just posting this to kinda show some light on to the topic of the impeachment - "Is it worth it?"

The better bet is just making hell, by winning both houses, and just going against Bush & Co, when ever they're doing something that doesn't benifit the country.

[calimary]

22. It doesn't matter. Having him IMPEACHED is enough, even if it goes

no farther. Clinton's enemies will delight in crowing about that impeachment forever and ever, even though they fell short of their all-time greatest dream and priority - driving him out of office. They got a nice consolation prize and they're enjoying it. I am FINE with that if that's the outcome for us. If the most we wind up with is a bush IMPEACHMENT, even if his conviction in the Senate does not go through (Clinton was not convicted, either), it's STILL AN IMPEACHMENT. I'll take it and be happy. A blot on his record for all time - especially those almanacs and listings which, through the years, distinquish presidents for the most basic of things - or there's an asterisk by the name with a footnote - designating "impeached."

Global warming IS VERY MUCH INDEED something critical and worthy of obsession. That fact is way beyond any dispute. However, it is a LOT more realistic to focus on IMPEACHMENT for bush. ESPECIALLY now. Watch the next poll numbers. They'll all drop - for BOTH of them. cheney and then bush. Boom and boom, one straight-away after the other. As he becomes more unpopular, more of the GOP incumbents will be running - AWAY from him. And you really need to remember this as well - a point another DUer made earlier-on: for more than a few of these, their victory margins last time were paper-thin. It wouldn't take a whole lot of votes to tip the scale to the other side next time, since so few votes made the difference last time. Some of these are moderates who are painfully aware that their party has sold them out (and worse, they know their constituents are aware of this, too). These are the types who know painfully well that a relative few votes can make the difference between their continued employment on Power-and-Glory Street or defeat and Never-Heard-of-You Avenue. They are therefore uncomfortably aware that their own numbers aren't enough, by themselves, to guarantee victory and they're gonna need a few of us, too. And when the majority of their own - Republican constituents, start complaining about the same things we've been complaining about, suddenly those are complaints with a lot more cred, that make a lot more noise, and draw a lot more attention. If vast majorities of THEIR OWN PARTY people in their districts and states are talking betrayal and IMPEACHMENT, they'll have a devil of a decision to make - as far as whose interests they REALLY represent.

Y'know, it does no real harm to visualize IMPEACHMENT here and there when you have a few moments to daydream. Maybe you're in the car, stuck in traffic or something. It doesn't hurt and doesn't cost anything. But it "puts it out there" as they say in metaphysical realms. That's not a bad thing.

I seriously think we're approaching critical mass, the same way Iraq is approaching civil war. If indeed it's not already there. If, indeed, WE TOO aren't already to critical mass. It's been posted elsewhere here tonight - CNN's Jack Cafferty said as much, just earlier today - "this may be the straw that breaks the camel's back." All his emails seemed to say that. No. I take that back. They didn't seem to say that. They SCREAMED it.

[radio4progressives]

4. First of all.. The Reality is Cheney IS the Puppet Master, he's been

getting away with bloody murder and no accountability for the past five years on all major policie matters..

the idea is to impeach and prosecute both Cheney and Bush. the crimes committed both have shared. But if we succeed only in impeaching Bush first, it will actually expose to Americans who has actually been in the seat of power all these years - from the moment that Bush was selected to be the puppet - you have know the Vice Presidential "selection" committee, which Cheney chaired and then annointed himself after they picked Bush to be the figure head.

Surely you know this? Don't feel bad, most Americans don't remember any of this, but i'm not worried because it would be much easier to dog and nail Cheney as "president" than it has been as VP.

[Jade Fox]

6. A point needs to be made....

that a President can not do what Bush has done and get away with it.

And no, Cheney would not be worse. He would be the same. But most likely if one goes, they both will.

[GrumpyGreg]

8. Yes,Cheney would take over but there won't be an impeachment.

[babylonsister]

9. OK, GrumpyG, so how about a ... resignation?

He finally realizes he's inept, as do his task/puppet-masters?

[GrumpyGreg]

14. Now that would be a great day but his power trip mind

would never allow it.

We are stuck for the next three years and damned well better start doing something about a strong candidate for our side.

[philarq]

10. President Hastert will be caretaker for a couple years--nt

[Wisconsin Larry]

11. Cheney Needs to Go First Since He is the President

and then the puppet can go. I like the Nixon precedent. First Agnew went and was replaced by Ford, a decent enough man and then Nixon went to be replaced by Ford. Of course finding another Ford in this Republican Congress is problematic but first things first.

Regarding this as a hypothetical question -- with this I can not agree. We cannot survive another two years with this corrupt, incompetent administration. Everyday comes new attacks on civil liberties, environmental regulations di mantled, public land sold to corporate interests -- the list is endless so I will stop here. And the world is in literally in flames due to the disastrous foreign policy.

I've just scratched the surface. But will leave with one last thought. Look at the age of the Supremes, Do we really need another Scalito to join with Thomas and Roberts?

[babylonsister]

13. Dang! Where have you been? We HAVE another (S)Alito! nt

[Wisconsin Larry]

15. Just a little shorthand for the twins

[radio4progressives]

16. which state is your flag? n/t

[Dhampir Kampf]

17. Question..

..I've been dying to ask, but I haven't yet - n/t or nt, what does it mean?

[Lindsay]

18. Means "no text," the entirety of the message

is in the Subject line.

And welcome to DU.

[Dhampir Kampf]

19. Thanks.

And it's Mississipi's.

[OKDem08]

24. Hi and welcome to DU!

:hi:

[Independent_Liberal]

20. My prediction...

-A special prosecutor is appointed for the Abramoff case. More witnesses testify at the Senate hearings on the Indian tribes. Jack blows his magic whistle and topples several Republican leaders in the House and Senate and a few executive branch members.

-Portgate becomes BCCI II.

-Kenny Boy Lay is convicted and Enrongate takes down a few neocons.

-Frist is indicted for his inside trading.

-Rove is indicted on treason charges.

-A few whistleblowers step forward at the NSA and Able Danger hearings and much more unsavory information is revealed.

-More damaging information is revealed at the Katrina hearings.

-Cheney is indicted on charges relating to the CIA Leak/AIPAC investigations, Halliburton, and his energy task force and is forced to resign.

-Congress forces Bush to appoint McCain as VP.

-Dems retake Congress in November.

-The new Congress is sworn in January '07 (w/Nancy Pelosi as House Speaker and John Conyers as HJC Chairman).

-More thorough hearings and investigations relating to DSM, Plame, AIPAC, Carlyle, Edmonds, NSA, etc. begin. More witnesses come forward.

-Impeachment proceedings begin.

-A few Senate Republicans urge Bush to resign.

-Bush resigns to avoid impeachment.

-McCain is sworn in as President. Lieberman is appointed VP and Rumsfeld is replaced with Wes Clark.

[babylonsister]

26. Wow! Lots of thought went into that!

I don't agree, but wow!

[BlueIris]

27. All except for the last two words of your last prediction.

"...and Rumsfeld is replaced with Wes Clark?"

Um, while I have little doubt that General Clark is up for the task...I can't imagine McCain and Holy Joe having the integrity to appoint him.

[MiniMe]

28. Just an addition, the ethics committee starts doing their jobs

That would be Hugh!!

[musical_soul]

21. I agree.

Unless we can get them both fired, this idea can still suck. I think Bush is the frontman, not the main guy making all the decisions.

[SONUVABUSH]

23. No, I've never thought about it...

Since the repugs control congress, I find it highly unlikely.

[Hardrada]

25. That's the reality now

but as we see we don't live in a static existence. Both Nixon and the USSR were to be glorious forever. But now the neocons are jumping ship since they see that reality does in fact change and will change greatly to the detriment of those now in power (our employees).