WA may be the fatal blow to the Doctor!

[displacedtexan]

WA may be the fatal blow to the Doctor! I don't have a link (this was an emailed AP story).


Dicks, Larsen endorse Kerry for president

By DAVID AMMONS
AP Political Writer

OLYMPIA (AP) Sen. John Kerry, the Democrats' national front-runner
for the presidential nomination, has picked up the endorsement of
Washington's senior House member, Norm Dicks, and Rep. Rick Larsen,
D-Wash.
Democratic Sen. Patty Murray said she will stay out of the
pre-convention fight among seven presidential hopefuls. Fellow Sen.
Maria Cantwell is expected to endorse Kerry, and Reps. Jay Inslee and
Brian Baird are reported ready to announce their backing, too.
Dicks, the dean of the congressional delegation and a power on the
House Appropriations Committee, said in an interview Friday night, ``I'm endorsing John Kerry for president and I'm urging voters in my district and Democrats across the state to realize Kerry is in a commanding position and it looks as if he will be the nominee.''

[quinnox]

1. If Dean can't win WA, a state that is wild about him

He can forget about winning anywhere.

[newsguyatl]

4. for once (and probably the ONLY time)

i agree with you on this.


and i think dean WILL win washington, handily. (and california, too).



this convention is going to be an interesting one indeed.


grab a snack, get comfortable, this is gonna be a LONG nomination.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

10. As a Washingtonian, I agree.

(I also agree that this will be the 1st and only time I agree with quinnox).


If Dean can't win WA, he can't win. Period.

[DJcairo]

12. As of 1/23 Dean was behind in CA, lord only knows how far back he is now

Kerry
31%

Dean
26%

Clark
14%

Edwards
12%

Other
11%

Undecided
5%

Data Collected
1/20/04 - 1/22/04

Geography
State of California

Sample Population
582 Certain Voters

Margin of Error
4.1%

Client
KABC-TV Los Angeles


KPIX-TV San Francisco

KXTV-TV Sacramento

KGTV-TV San Diego

KVBC-TV Las Vegas
http://surveyusa.com/currentelectionpolls.html

[knight_of_the_star]

17. Don't bet on Cali

It a BIG state with lots of differing opinions. And with Dean on his way down, don't bet on California going his way.

[MercutioATC]

2. Dean has enough money to stay in the race and he doesn't need to

take 1st place anywhere to pick up enough delegates to lead to a brokered convention. What happens then is anybody's guess.

[JNelson6563]

16. You are so cruel

You could at least leave them their fantasies.

Meanie. ;-)

Julie

[MercutioATC]

20. Well I'm a Dean supporter...I thought we were ALL bad people...

:eyes:

[Feanorcurufinwe]

21. Dean has committed to dropping out

if he doesn't win any primaries.

[MercutioATC]

24. I must have missed that...got a link?

[maxr4clark]

3. Clark has a presence in WA too

not just Kerry. Dean is embattled on two fronts, and you are right that he may not win WA.

[AntiCoup2K4]

25. There's no Kerry presence in Washington

Just because a DLC Bush-Lite governor and a pro-war congressional hawk (Dicks) endorsed him, that doesn't equal a "presence". And Maria Cantwell was spewing PNAC talking points after her recent trip to Iraq, so I'm hardly surprised she's behind PNAC's candidate.

Still, I have yet to see ONE John Kerry yard sign or bumper sticker in this state. Lots of Dean. Decent number of Clark. A few for Kucinich. That's about it. I think Dennis is actually going to be in Olympia this week. I probably won't be able to get out of work, but that would be kinda cool to see that.

[maxr4clark]

28. Okay, but Kerry will still get a lot of votes on Feb 7 n/t

[AntiCoup2K4]

29. How? Are you guys gonna vote for him? (I certainly hope not)

And I know we aren't gonna vote for him. And I can't imagine the Kucinich people voting for him. So where would he get the votes? Unless Republicans flood the caucuses. And that's not likely at least in the Puget Sound area (Thurston,Pierce,King,Snohomish counties) where the population density is.

[bitchkitty]

5. I think you're wrong,

I refuse to give my vote to someone who uss the filthy campaign tactics that Kerry has used, and I'm sure plenty of people feel the same way.

[blm]

15. Dean has run the dirtiest campaign by far and for much longer than anyone

else running.

Karma.

[bitchkitty]

18. Crap, and you

know it - show me where Dean has run ads comparing his opponents to Osama bin Laden. Show me where Dean has robo-called other candidates' supportets at 3 in the morning, directing them to the wrong place. Kerry's running a filthy dirty campaign, and I hate him for it.

[RetroLounge]

22. This is the best Kerry can do?

"He started it, Mommmmmmmy!"

"Make the bad man stop, mommmmmy!"

[lastknowngood]

6. If all you can do is bash Dean

why bother.

[Ninga]

7. Dean supporters need to hang tough.

Michigan Gov. will endorse Kerry and her husband is already phone banking for Kerry.

Question? Should the grassroots roll over for the Washingtion white hairs?

I don't think so.

The Dean teams in Michigan and NEOhio will "kick it up a notch."

For the very first time in all my years of being a registered Dem., I am committed to fight for a candidate who does not appeal to Washington insiders.

Howard's appearence on Meet the Press today was outstanding. He was honest, didn't promise the moon, fielded every question straight on and gave tough, direct answers. He didn't take any crap from Russert, can you just see him strong and firm, looking the pretender in the eye.

Go Howard!

[NNN0LHI]

8. Here is a link to the story

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/aplocal_story.asp?category=6420&slug=WA%20Caucuses%20Kerry

[ldoolin]

9. Doesn't surprise me.

Norm Dicks has a longtime reputation as the most conservative among Washington State's Democratic Congressmen.

Maria Cantwell is a millionaire who made her money in the Internet business and bought a Senate seat. She's best known for co-sponsoring an amendment to the Homeland Security Act which barred a number of people from employment in the interstate trucking, mining, and railroad industries because of past convictions on their records (i.e. sodomy, marijuana possession, etc.) - which applied even if they were already employed in those industries and resulted in those people LOSING THEIR JOBS! She's an idiot.

Brian Baird and Rick Larsen are moderates, about where Norm Dicks is. They aren't progressives by any stretch of the imagination. Jay Inslee is probably the only real liberal on this list who endorsed Kerry.

When I see Washington State's only real progressive, Jim McDermott, endorse Kerry, that is the only endorsement that will carry any weight with me. I'll believe it when I see it.

[Southsideirish]

11. He's back baby! Howard was masterful with Russert this morning.

I have heard him speak countless times but I never heard him so on his game as he was today. And lookin' good, too! Go Howard!

[ButterflyBlood]

13. I have to agree

I don't hate Dean, but WA is a good test of how he can deal in a more liberal state (since every state up until now and on Feb. 3 is centrist-to-conservative) If Dean can't win there, he's got nothing but Vermont.

[progressivebydesign]

14. The OTHER Seattle media speaks well of Dean..

This morning both major TV stations have positive stories about Dean on their website, and on their broadcasts. They say he got a "big welcome" in Washington yesterday, and that he's a favorite here.

I worry that because we have caucauses, rather than a real vote, he will be subject to the same pushy tactics, and back room deals as was the case in Iowa.

I live in Washington, near Tacoma and 40 minutes from Seattle. I have to tell you that the majority of bumper stickers and signs in the region, including the Kitsap and Olympic Penninsula, are Dean and Kucinich. I have seen One Kerry sticker. And a few Clarks. But it's Dean, Kucinich, Clark, and Kerry.. in that order.

I did see a sign yesterday in rural Jefferson County... it was on some farm, it was huge.. it said, "SEND GEORGE BUSH TO THE MOON". Dean should do well if his supporters stand together at the caucuses. And.. if no bottom place candidates cut deals to share votes.

[maxr4clark]

26. I live in Seattle,

in a voting district that is considered staunchly for Dean. There are a lot of people actively supporting Clark here in Seattle, and I've heard that the east side of the mountains has far more support for Clark than for Dean.

I was at a Sierra Club meeting in Seattle, where a show of hands showed less than 5 Kerry, Dean, and Kucinich supporters (each), but over 25 Clark supporters. This was a few days after Iowa.

Dean was heavily favored here a month ago, now much less.

[Johnyawl]

19. It's the same problem for Dean

From this mornings Seattle Times:

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2001848547_deanpeople01m.html

Although the event yesterday was promoted as a hunt for undecided voters, the crowd appeared to be made up of the converted. Sherri Bloomer, who was first in line at 12:15 p.m., said she has been a Dean supporter since August.

Dean appears to be having trouble making his case to the undecideds. His numbers look good, vis a vis the other candidates, until the undecideds decide. He just was unable to get any undecideds in Iowa or New Hampshire, and they don't appear to be turning out for him in Seattle.

I live 20 miles south of Seattle in a working class suburb that's pretty much a moderate Dem stronghold (our rep is Adam Smith, a proud member of the DLC). The only Dean bumber stickers I see is when I go into Seattle itself. I expect my caucus will go either Kerry or Clark. I'm leaning Kerry, my wife, Geniph, is a Kucinich supporter.

[David Dunham]

23. The Doctor is already effectively out of commission

[MercutioATC]

27. Not with the cash he's pulling in, he isn't.

We're still setting the pace for contributions. He has no reason to drop out. We'll see this thing through 'till the end.