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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 10:36 PM
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Huge tactical mistake by DLC on Hackett brush off.
Ponder this......what if Hackett had decided to now run as an independant?

This would have effectively split the Dem vote and Dewiner would likely have been re-elected
because Dem leaders were to affraid to let the primary settle the issue.

Meddling in what should have been a fair fight could have cost the DLC in a big way.

I am sick and tired of candidates worring more about winning elections than doing the
right thing and fighting for what they belive in.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 10:38 PM
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1. This has gotten a lot of people all agitated as they perceive what
Reid and Schumer did was quite arrogant and actually none of their business (the choice should have been up to the voters in Ohio).

Hell, it pissed me off and I live in Nebraska.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 10:38 PM
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2. How was the DLC involved?
I've only seen reference to interference from Schumer and Reid (DSCC) and to a lessor degree, Rahm Emanuel (DCCC)
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 10:40 PM
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3. DLC aka BOOGIE MAN for any story that need some boogie men.
Edited on Tue Feb-14-06 10:40 PM by xultar
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 11:23 PM
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15. No doubt.
I'm not a real big fan of them, but I'm pretty mystified as to why they'd throw their support behind Brown, who's supposed to be pretty left-wing.
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inthebrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 10:40 PM
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4. How about
THE TRILATERAL COMMISSION?

Little known ghost in politics that is never mentioned on this board.
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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 10:40 PM
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5. I thought
that Hackett was the more electable candidate, considering he nearly won the 2004 congressional race in Cincinnati. Where's BAND OF BROTHERS on this?
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 10:42 PM
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6. they don't want to lose control to the people
the corporatists are happy with some pissy few dems to make fun of in congress and Sherrod will not win
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 10:45 PM
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7. This was not DLC...jeez how many times doe sit have to be said...
Neither Reid nor Schumer are in the DLC, and instead of Hackett the DSCC has endorsed a more progressive candidate.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 10:46 PM
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8. Allow them to go forth and spew it. What difference does it make?
We'd much rather beat up on one another than Bushco.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 10:48 PM
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9. I suppose you haven't seen Will Pitt's thread...DLC was not involved
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 10:48 PM
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10. For once, this isn't DLC's fault
It's the DSCC and DCCC in general, and Schumer, Brown, Reid, and Emanuel in particular.
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 10:49 PM
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11. My point is simply this......
Meddling in this is a potentially huge mistake. The chance to take down a pig like Dewine
does not come along every day and to potentially split the ticket is a political gamble they
did not need to take.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 10:52 PM
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12. Except that Hackett has too much integrity to be a tool of the BFEE
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pat_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 10:53 PM
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13. No. WE (Dems) need him!! How to get him to FILE on THURS??
Edited on Tue Feb-14-06 10:59 PM by pat_k
He can drop out later if he feels he must, but WE NEED HIM. And we need TIME to show him that he'll get all the support he needs.

The biggest problem the party faces is the perception that they are weak. Hackett's strength and principled commitment are just what the doctor ordered. Tragically, irrational fear is causing the "patient" to reject treatment.

If we allow the DSCC to push Hackett out of the race, I fear that we'll lose both Schmidt's and DeWine's seats. . . and other seats that would be won because of the boost Hackett's Senate campaign would give the Democratic party as a whole.

I want to DO SOMETHING that would cause him to reconsider.

I contributed and wrote a plea for him to stay in.

Any other ideas??

----------------------
Contributions and Letters can go to
HACKETT FOR OHIO
http://www.hackettforohio.com/

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lastknowngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 10:59 PM
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14. You have it figured. That is the plan. These people seam to want
to ensure that the dems lose both seats we could have had very easily. They can't be that stupid it has to be a plan. They want us to lose.
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 11:33 PM
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16. the DLC had nothing to do with this. Brown is a Strong progressive
One could fairly say that he is one of the most progressive members of the U.S. House of Representatives with an overall VERY strong voting record all around. Nothing against Mr. Hackett and I do agree that he was treated badly; but certainly Sherrod Brown is to the left of Mr. Hackett. Sherrod Brown is endorsed by PDA (Progressive Democrats of America) and is a strong member of the Progressive Caucus.

Representative Brown is at least as liberal as Sen. Kennedy or Sen. Feingold

courtesy of vote smart - link:

http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can_id=H3141103&type=category&category=Foreign%2BAid%2Band%2BPolicy%2BIssues&go.x=12&go.y=8


2006 In 2006 Citizens for Global Solutions gave Representative Brown a rating of A.

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2005 Representative Brown supported the interests of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People 96 percent in 2005.

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