Its over: Kerry to pick Edwards as VP

[wunnerfulrobin]

Results:
Dean-- history; not to be heard from again, except maybe as ammbassador

Lieberman-- back to senate to continue to serve
Clark-- makes millions lobbying new Kerry administration
Sharpton-- continues to hustle anything race-related
Hillary-- REALLY pissed because in 2012 she'll be too old to run!
GOP-- runs Jeb in '08 because no one else wants to

[lastknowngood]

1. Ok so Kerry will only lose

47 states.

[jobycom]

4. Is that what DUers are talking themselves into?

Face it, Dean was the Jerry Brown of 2004. Comic relief, some great ideas, but an ideological chameleon. Clark is... God, who knows? Lieberman and Gephardt are too compromised. Kucinich is a Representative whose never won an election outside of his home district, or his city at best. Sharpton still can't overcome racism (as the initial post proves), and Braun couldn't overcome racism or sexism. (Don't believe me? Find a significant difference between her and Edwards.)

Edwards and Kerry weren't our best bets, they were our only bets. Edwards has served one term in the Senate, won one election in his life, and has nothing but a beautiful accent and a pretty way of saying things to recommend him. Kerry is dull, but he's the only one left standing.

He won't lose 47. He'll win Dem states, there's just too much anger for him not to. If Bush keeps lying, people will figure it out (even if the Super Bowl is 9-11ed tonight), and maybe Kerry will win it all.

In any case, there are no great candidates running. Kerry will win more states than anyone else could have, and if Edwards is his VP, may even cause Bush problems in the south.

It's not a done deal, though. Dean could revamp. Kerry is one blunder away from being a bad word again. Bob Graham might become the VP candidate-- he's got everything demographically that Edwards has, is a good Democrat, and could make Bush have to destroy more ballots in Florida than last time.

It ain't over, any more than it was the night before Iowa when everyone was moaning that Dean was the lock, and that we would lose 47 states. The final results may turn out the same as it is now, but there is a lot that Dean and Edwards might do to shake things up, especially with a load of southern primaries in line.

Alright, quit reading. Get back to someone who knows what they are talking about.

[wunnerfulrobin]

11. No racism in my posts

Sorry, but not supporting sharpton or braun doesnt mean one is a racist, just as one who is black doesnt HAVE to vote for a black candidate. Sharpton has too much in his past to prove he himself is not able to get away from "racism". Brawly, the Freddies food mart fiasco, etc. And his problem is its all on the record. Braun has a checkered past as well, with the fraud fundraising, and trying to help out murderous dictators in Africa. Not to mention that neihter could be taken very seriously. Of course, to be fair, neither could Kucinich. And he's a white guy!

[jobycom]

13. Braun's checkered past

Was not checkered. It was simply a bunch of normal political activities painted to look corrupt, and it was race related. Not saying you were racist, I'm saying the media and general public was in the way they formed the story that most of us remember. She was Gored, if you catch my meaning.

As for Sharpton, he was a representative for a specific group, and no doubt made mistakes in his exuberant and righteous support of that group, but no worse than Clark has made in support of his group (troops), or Nader, or Dean, or whomever. The fact that his group was defined by race is what made his mistakes stick in people's craws.

Wasn't calling you a racist, I was only pointing out that even here where we are all sensitive to the subject, Sharpton still has the same assumptions pasted to him. I've no doubt that you yourself are above all of that and would not consciously support any form of racism, but I still see the standard attacks on Sharpton as being based on racist assumptions, even if those assumptions were made when the stories were being created, not when they are being discussed now.

[cryofan]

2. why not clark as VP?

he has the national security credentials, right?

[dusty64]

9. I like that idea

much better and it also provides geographic balance and would go a long way to salve the wounds over many issues like the Iraqi "war", patriotic act, etc. It wouldn't be too wise to pick two who voted the same way on these things and may achieve healing that is tearing the opposition apart. I, personally will be watching the VP pick closely cause it will have a large impact on my level of support should Kerry win the nomination. It will matter this time.

[adadem]

3. Actually

I bet Jeb runs in '08 no matter what...I've believed that's been the plan for some time.

[jobycom]

5. Elections in 2008?

Let us hope there are.

[bushwakker]

8. That's one reason why Big Time Dick was chosen VP

His health precludes him from running. As little respect as I have for the American electorate it's hard to believe that people would vote to continue this dynasty of failure.

[bushwakker]

6. I think Gephardt makes sense

Solid guy. No hint of scandal. All have said (even GOPers) that he's a good man. Veteran. Experienced. Knows the issues inside and out. Knows the campaign ropes. Could bring in a battleground state like MO. Could be very helpful in the Midwest where Dems need to win. Union support is strong.

[DrFunkenstein]

7. Ambassador Dean - Famous For His Diplomacy?

While there is still a definite chance that he can come back in this race, if he loses I doubt he will continue to seek public office. He may do the lecture circuit, but I think he'll go back to private practice with his wife.

[Renew Deal]

10. I don't know if I would be happy for Clark or pissed at him

for making millions lobbying. Clark is too talented to not be in a democratic administration. He doesn't need any training to move into about 5-6 dept heads in this country. He could easily be Sec. of state, Sec. Def, Nat. Sec., Homeland, transportation, and I am sure others.

[spooky3]

12. Age 64 is too old to run? Since when?