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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 05:22 PM
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Do you think JFK was offed because the military thought he made a deal
with the Soviets to give up Laos?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 05:23 PM
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1. He was offed because he was going to pull troops OUT of Vietnam.
But the war profiteers WANTED their war.
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Oldtimeralso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 05:24 PM
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2. AMEN!!!!! eot
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 05:29 PM
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3. Thanks
It's so hard to re-learn all the crap they taught us in school, so much of it has turned out to be pure bunk and make believe.

(not that I heard that theory in school, it's on the TV today)
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 05:32 PM
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4. Try "A People's History of the United States"
By Howard Zinn, guarantee you'll like it!
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 05:35 PM
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6. I have it, and I've read it
Edited on Sat Jan-28-06 05:44 PM by Viva_La_Revolution
but there is so much to absorb, I usually have to put it down cause I'm all pissed off.

I'm watching Gareth Porter on CSPAN2 and he was talking about the Sec. State's suspicions that JFK had done this, so it made me wonder.

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MakeItSo Donating Member (351 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 05:34 PM
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5. It was the military-industrial complex, just like the ones who set up 9-11
Edited on Sat Jan-28-06 05:35 PM by MakeItSo
We won't progress as a species, and indeed the world as we know it won't survive, unless these criminals are brought to justice. They are under the impression that since they got away with it with JFK and untold other assassinations, that they are untouchable. But there's one thing that's markedly different today as compared to 1963, or 1968 for that matter. There's one tool at our disposal that wasn't around then, that bypasses the criminals and their corporate media butt buddies. Something that makes knowledge free and pervasive and has the potential to stamp out and extinguish all the untruths and falsehoods in its path.

It's the Internet. And because of it, millions of Americans, and thousands more every day, know not only that the criminals behind 9-11 wear the US flag on their lapels, but that there is more than enough evidence to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that their cover story is a complete and total sham.
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cdsilv Donating Member (883 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 05:37 PM
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7. ....and what's really laughable, is the military/industrial complex...
CREATED THE INTERNET!!!!! (originally called ARPANET).
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 06:22 PM
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13. IMHO....
The war profiteers are the root of all evil in the country,and I really mean that..
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chaumont58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 05:38 PM
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8. Joseph Califano's take
Months ago, maybe even years ago, I saw Joseph and califono and Brian Lamb discussing a book of Califano's that cover his life from when he was on Wall Street up to the present time. Califono was in DC at the time JFK was killed and he is convinced that the Cubans killed JFK. The Kennedy Brothers tried for years to kill Castro and according to Califano, in the end Castro got JFK.
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 05:39 PM
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9. He May Have Been Offed For A Lot Of Reasons
The Military Industrial Complex/Intelligence community can probably tolerate a lot from a President.

However with Kennedy he was probably going to pull out of Vietnam, Laos may have been on the table, Bay of Pigs fiasco (really pissed off the fascists), Cuban missile crisis and taking missiles out of Turkey, threats to dismantle the CIA, the verge of Civil Rights changes, his brother and the Mafia, LBJ may have been on the verge of being investigated for murder (see Snotty Scotty's Dad's Book "Blood, Money, and Power")

I think there are so many possible motives that probably it was any or all of them that led the players to do what they did.

Fascists may not even have needed the motive other than he wasn't one of them. And remember, this was less than 20 years after WW2, which really did gin up the Military Industrial Complex. They needed/need war to exist.


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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 05:44 PM
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10. Tangental topic: I think JFK Jr. was targeted b/c he could have been
the democratic candidate running against * in 2000.
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MakeItSo Donating Member (351 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 06:19 PM
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12. No way, John Jr. was a playboy, not a politican, false flag
Tom Flocco should check his sources more closely. Either that or he's a spook himself.
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Hestia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 06:14 PM
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11. feel he was offed because he was trying to take down the
the Federal Reserve. Exec Order #11110 - wish he had succeded - we wouldn't be in this economic quagmire we are in now...


John F. Kennedy vs The Federal Reserve


On June 4, 1963, a virtually unknown Presidential decree, Executive Order 11110, was signed with the authority to basically strip the Federal Reserve Bank of its power to loan money to the United States Federal Government at interest. With the stroke of a pen, President Kennedy declared that the privately owned Federal Reserve Bank would soon be out of business. The Christian Law Fellowship has exhaustively researched this matter through the Federal Register and Library of Congress. We can now safely conclude that this Executive Order has never been repealed, amended, or superceded by any subsequent Executive Order. In simple terms, it is still valid.

When President John Fitzgerald Kennedy - the author of Profiles in Courage -signed this Order, it returned to the federal government, specifically the Treasury Department, the Constitutional power to create and issue currency -money - without going through the privately owned Federal Reserve Bank. President Kennedy's Executive Order 11110 gave the Treasury Department the explicit authority: "to issue silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard silver dollars in the Treasury." This means that for every ounce of silver in the U.S. Treasury's vault, the government could introduce new money into circulation based on the silver bullion physically held there. As a result, more than $4 billion in United States Notes were brought into circulation in $2 and $5 denominations. $10 and $20 United States Notes were never circulated but were being printed by the Treasury Department when Kennedy was assassinated. It appears obvious that President Kennedy knew the Federal Reserve Notes being used as the purported legal currency were contrary to the Constitution of the united States of America.

United States Notes" were issued as an interest-free and debt-free currency backed by silver reserves in the U.S. Treasury. We compared a "Federal Reserve Note" issued from the private central bank of the United States (the Federal Reserve Bank a/k/a Federal Reserve System), with a "United States Note" from the U.S. Treasury issued by President Kennedy's Executive Order. They almost look alike, except one says "Federal Reserve Note" on the top while the other says "United States Note". Also, the Federal Reserve Note has a green seal and serial number while the United States Note has a red seal and serial number.

President Kennedy was assassinated on November 22, 1963 and the United States Notes he had issued were immediately taken out of circulation. Federal Reserve Notes continued to serve as the legal currency of the nation. According to the United States Secret Service, 99% of all U.S. paper "currency" circulating in 1999 are Federal Reserve Notes.

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more at: http://www.roc-grp.org/jfk.html
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