What hard, indisputable evidence do we have that * stole both elections?

[Rocknrule]

I'm convinced, like most of you, that he cheated both times, but what is some evidence we have of it that is so strong even the most devout Bushists couldn't argue with it?

[savemefromdumbya]

1. There has been a report

[Birthmark]

2. None.

I wish we did.

[bpilgrim]

7. we have the tens of thousands scrubbed from the voter lists AND LINKS

see greg palast reporting and rep. john conyers report.

REPORT: Preserving Democracy: What Went Wrong in Ohio (pdf)
http://www.house.gov/judiciary_democrats/ohiostatusrept1505.pdf

THE GREAT FLORIDA EX-CON GAME
How the 'felon' voter-purge was itself felonious

Harper's Magazine
Friday, March 1, 2002

http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=122&row=1

"If You Want To Win An Election, Just Control The Voting Machines"
Senate Ethics Committee Chuck Hagel was the head of, and continues to own part interest in, the company that owns the company that installed, programmed, and largely ran the voting machines that were used by most of the citizens of Nebraska.

more...
http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0131-01.htm

psst... pass the word ;->

peace

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[MercutioATC]

6. "Troll"?

Based on past posts or just this one?

Some people here use the "troll" accusation whenever anybody with a low post count doesn't buy into a particular conspiracy theory. I'm not saying you're one of them, but this one post isn't nearly enough to start shrieking "troll".

[benburch]

4. No doubts about the first one at all.

Bush v Gore was, essentially, a request that the election be given to him without counting of votes by the Supreme Court. In other words, a Coup.

[blm]

5. Would a devout Bushist accept 80% of the electronic vote being controlled

by just two highly partisan Democrats who refuse any independent examination of the programmed machines? Especially if EVERY "glitch" that was caught turned out to be in favor of the Democrats?

If they wouldn't, why should we?

And why is it that exit polls in other countries that are far off from the vote tally trigger calls of fraud and demands for international intercession, while Americans are supposed to accept 3 elections in a row that the exit polls were far off the vote tally, when it never was so in the years before that?

[Blutodog]

10. Your right!

The rehtugs say trust me! NOT!! We shouldn't have a voting system that is in "private hands." It should be on the companies to prove that somebody couldn't use their machines to steal elections. The truth is ISS, Diebold & Sequioa which do 90% of the voting machine biz are owned by 3 men and all are Bu$h pioneers and big backers of extreme right wing groups! These men had the motive, method, money and means to steal the elections of 2000, 2002 and 2004. Nothing will stop them from doing it again in 2006 & 08. The D's had better wake up the fact that our democracy has been reduced to a facade by the radical fascist wing of the rethug party. The religious right sees anyone that opposes them as "evil" and is out to destroy not defeat us. They have all 3 branches of Gov't now and the voting system, soon they will have have control of large chunks of the federal bureaucray as well. They also have the media in check and with the NSA sying on the political opposition they have the D's scared to death and worse ( blackmailed!) With all this power though the majority 60% of the public now understands what Bu$hCo really is about ABSOLUTE power! These folks NEVER intend to hand back power peacefully and they aren't willing to play by the rule of law either. Bu$hCo has declared itself a monarchy and his party will do nothing to stop him.

[kster]

8. Don't look back, look forward

at Alaska for example they will not release 2004 election results to the Democrats, is that proof? Not exactly but it certainly is proof that they plan to manipulate things in the future.

[Ani Yun Wiya]

9. About 2000

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=49624&mesg_id=49624&page=#51782

[Joe Chi Minh]

11. What hard, indisputable evidence do you not have?

It's only the media's propaganda by action and omission that could embolden someone to ask such a question.