Ed Schultz thinks walking out of State of Union Address is a stupid idea

[Quixote1818]

I don't think he has a full picture of the plan. Call him and educate him: 1-877-934-6833

I tried to get through but had no luck. I will keep trying.

[TygrBright]

1. Don't bother...

Ed's a knuckle-dragger.

He's OUR knuckle-dragger, but he's still a knuckle-dragger.

resignedly,
Bright

[snowbear]

6. Ed is awesome...

He asked callers to explain what the ultimate benefits would be --- the pros and cons.

Think about the media we have right now. Now, think about the media we have after we walk out during a SOTU.

Give me a break. ED SCHULTZ IS ON OUR SIDE :mad: :mad: :mad:

You want knuckle-draggers? Tune into Limpballs!

[Quixote1818]

24. Thank you

Some here on DU are so far to the left they are as nutty as the far right. Ed is a moderate Dem by our standards but by most standards he is far left. He is open minded and that is refreshing.

[guidod]

30. Damn right.

Thank you.

[snowbear]

31. Then do us a favor and delete this FUCKING IDIOT POST !!!!!!!

[Quixote1818]

40. Actually, I think this thread is creating some good debate

So, no I wont delete it. For some reason people are more gutsy about disagreeing with the "walk out" idea then they were in Will Pitts thread. I don't remember hardly any dissenters in that thread. The fact that so many DUers actually seem to be against the walk out is making me question my original position.

[Ian David]

8. He DID change his mind and decided to back a filibuster yesterday. n/t

[calimary]

41. Fuck him. I DO think it's a great idea. I've already called people.

And don't forget DUer mom cat's latest gift to us all... more TOLL FREE NUMBERS TO THE CAPITOL HILL SWITCHBOARD that she dug up. They're in my sig line just below.

Thanks again, mom cat!

[rsmith6621]

2. Im Beginning to Believe that Eddie is a

DINO.......

[Ian David]

5. No, I just think his little man-crush on Lieberman clouds his judgment.n/t

[snowbear]

7. You don't listen to him often, do you?

[zippy890]

13. bingo - he's a DINO

[snowbear]

16. BULLSHIT ZIPPY

Just pure BULLSHIT !!!!

[zippy890]

22. I listened to him for a long time

with an open mind, encouraged at times that he was good for the democratic party.

But his Dean bashing, treatment of Murtha and other statements revealed his true colors IMO

[Quixote1818]

32. He has also backed Dean hard core when appearing on the MSM

His treatment of Murtha has been fine, he has backed Murtha 95% of the time but disagreed with him on weather people should still join the military with Iraq going so badly. 50 years ago if someone has said what Murtha said they would end up Jail. I don't agree with Ed on that but I understand his viewpoint.

You know dissent is supposed to be celebrated on the Democratic side. It seems a few here on DU are turning into NeoDems.

[guidod]

33. Get over the Dean and Murtha issue.

Move on. Isn't it terrible that everybody in this party doesn't line up exactly the way you want them to. Some democrats can be as divisive as republicans. You're showing your real colors, unwilling to blend.

[mopinko]

45. nah, he's just a mouthpiece for the dinos.

when ed opens his mouth, the dlc comes out.

[Ian David]

3. But then Ed & Lieberman could spend some quality "alone time" (wink wink)

[orwell]

4. I don't like it either...

...I would prefer just sitting there, no clapping, wearing black, the color of mourning, as if they are at a funeral service.

When the pundits ask why the Dems are wearing black, tell them that it befits the burial of the Constitution.

[LSparkle]

12. That is a GREAT idea! Not disrespectful at all, but makes a statement

[Quixote1818]

18. Good idea

To be honest I am on the fence on the idea. It would have to be very well thought out or it could completely backfire and make the Dems look really bad. I just want to see if someone could convince Big Ed. If he could be convinced then I would be more inclined to think it might work. Right now I don't think it's worth the risk but I want to hear someone give him a good debate on it.

I think your idea is safer and would get the point across nicely.

[napi21]

19. I LOVE the idea of all Dems wearing BLACK!

It's a classy way to get their message across! I wonder if there's enough time to get all the Dems on board with this????

[movonne]

9. I really am not interested in anything Ed Schultz has to say ..He could

be a plant for the republicans...

[zippy890]

10. I think Ed Shultz opening his mouth is a bad idea

he's a phony, ego'd out blowhard

his treatment of Murtha was inexcussable, not to mention his Dean bashing

[guidod]

25. Does everybody have to think just

like you in order to be called a democrat?

[we can do it]

11. Ed's Show Is A Waste of Time

[snowbear]

14. Big Eddie was right on --- it really would BACKLASH with the media we have

Use your head!!

[Quixote1818]

27. You and Ed are probably right

I just want to see if someone can convince him to change his mind. I am torn on the idea. Right now I don't think it's worth the risk but if Ed could change his mind I might be inclined to get off the fence on this.

[springhill]

46. We are past the point of worrying......

about what the media may think. It doesn't matter what the Democrats do, the media will not be kind to us. We need to do something drastic to show our disdain for what is going on. You want the Democrats to sit there and clap and be respectful of this fraud? No, I don't think so.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

15. No it's not. Trust me I looked it up. n/t

[Mojambo]

17. I wouldn't have them walk out. I just wouldn't have them show up.

Bush and the Republicans have made it abundantly clear that they don't want anyone else to do ANY governing at all.

Why show up?

I don't agree with Ed very much, but he does a good and necessary show.

[snowbear]

20. **** WHY FREEPERS LOVE POST TOPICS LIKE THIS ONE ****

Because they LOVE it when we bash our own.

There's a reason Big Eddie is the #01 radio station for Progressive talk.

Please STOP FEEDING THE FREEPERS THE SHIT THEY LOVE TO READ.

:mad: :mad: :mad: Eddie is on our side :mad: :mad: :mad:

[guidod]

38. I agree with you Larissa

[DELUSIONAL]

21. so .. . Ed Schultz is a stupid a. hole --

[guidod]

28. You sound like a selfish freeper.

It really bothers me when I hear dems talking like pukes. Make sure you don't include anyone into your flock.

[snowbear]

29. Yep --- and the FREEPERS LOVE THIS SHIT

Don't they DELUSIONAL?

Don't they Quixote?

[guidod]

34. Larissa, check your Inbox

[DELUSIONAL]

54. So Randi Rhodes and Mike Malloy are Freepers ?????????

They don't like him either.

Be damned careful who you call a Freeper -- or your time at DU will be very short.

In fact you on now on my ignore list --

[liam_laddie]

23. alternate SOTU activity?

As much as I'd love to take a ball bat to *'s head and groin, I think a walkout would backfire.
Dems could just not show up, but then there'd be no media coverage of the opposition bloc,
Or no chance to refute the lies. FYI, I'm 68, been around the block a few times, think of
myself as a progressive, if not tilting radical...

Monday, I sent Wm. Rivers Pitt** a message to the effect that a walkout will be spun by media in
the exact opposite way that it's intended. I believe the downside risk of blowback far outweighs
the temporary, feel-good upside we'd experience. (**originator of the walkout idea, SFAIK.)

I suggested that all Dems wear an over-the-shoulder sash, all exactly same color blue, such as
were worn (orange) in Ukraine and also used in many countries (Northern Ireland comes to
mind) as a sign of unity. It's "non-confrontational," and will show very well on TV. It works for women
and men. The sashes could be brought in in pockets and put on when they all sit down. It would
fluster *. No applause, never stand up after he enters. If the Dem members of Congress don't have
the courage for this, we are well and truly a pathetic excuse for an Opposition Party. I agree with
Larissa upthread.

Not serious now, but possible accessories might include BS protectors for ears, "Lie Detector"
cards on neck-chains (like security ID's) and the joke prop of a pile of dog feces to put on each desk.

[BeatleBoot]

26. Leaders don't walk out.

That's how it will be spun. Like it or not.

Leaders lead - they don't quit.

[guidod]

36. I would like to see them walk out but

you're right about the spinning.

[Quixote1818]

37. Good point

This is a lot better discussion that we got under Will Pitts thread. I wonder why that is?

I am starting to move away from the idea of the walk out.

[Qanisqineq]

35. I agree with him

I think it would look immature. If the dems tried to talk about the speech later, republicans would say, "but you didn't even stick around to listen to it." People will say, "poor losers". I think it would look bad and reflect very poorly on democrats. I just see so many things being spun badly and so many ill effects, it isn't worth it.

[snowbear]

39. Finally! A few voices of reason here!

I swear, sometimes I think this place would prefer having Bill O'Reilly, Slanthead, and Rush on the air all day.

Ed Schultz KICKS ass!!

If anyone here doesn't like a comment he may make on any particular subject, tune into one of his live on-line chats and talk to him personally about it.

Or E-mail him --- he or his wife, Wendy WILL ANSWER YOU!!

They are true, blue, Democrats.

Which is more than I can say for those who are so intolerant here that they'd create such ludicrous posts as this. :mad:

[Qanisqineq]

42. I agree with what you are saying

I disagree with Ed Schultz once in a while, but that doesn't make him a republican. There are times when he argues the other side of things to start a dialogue on the subject. How exciting would it be if every day he said something and all the people just called in to say, "I agree." I like to hear why you believe what you believe.

I am so tired of hearing "I disagree with him/her so he/she must be a republican!". Wow. To me, it sounds just like the fundy evangelicals that say "If you don't think exactly like us, you are going to hell!"

[Quixote1818]

44. You are exactly right

Liberals are always bragging about how much we support Dissent yet when someone disagrees with us on just a couple of small things it's amazing how many people are ready to throw them out of the party.

Talk about NeoLibs!

[zippy890]

48. larissa - I sincerely hope you and others here

are right about Schultz and that he is helping the democratic party.

I don't usually post insult-type things about democrats.

and I want to say to you and other shultz fans that I really hope he is helping the democratic cause, and maybe he is
and I give him credit for that. I live in a very liberal state, and perhaps I'm out of touch with what is needed to really
change some minds to our cause. If schulz is doing that, I support him.

sorry for any bad feelings -
:)

[Quixote1818]

43. All this dissent is interesting

On Will Pitt's original thread I don't remember seeing anyone disagree with him. All I saw was praise and pats on the back. I was skeptical at first but since everyone seemed united behind the idea I thought I was probably seeing things wrong. For some reason the dissenters on this issue, seem more bold on this thread.

I have to say, I agree with what you said. I am leaning against the walk out now.

[Qanisqineq]

47. I saw a few dissenters on the original thread

but they were after the thread had grown to over 200 posts, I believe. That's when I first saw the thread. My first reaction was "it's a bad idea" but I didn't add anything because I wasn't really sure. After thinking about it more, I feel more strongly now that it would just look bad. In my mind, I compare it to other speeches outside the political arena. It would look bad and seem like poor sportsmanship (for lack of a better word) to walk out because you disagree. Besides, the media would never get any democrat's reasons why, they would just air republicans bitching about it.

I just think it makes the other side look more powerful.

[Pab Sungenis]

49. Ed's a registered Republican.

Never forget that.

[snowbear]

50. You are 100% DEAD WRONG

Ed Schultz =WAS= a Republican long before he met his sweet wife Wendy. He's never denied that and talks about it ALL THE TIME on his show.

If you've ever listened to his program... (which sure sounds doubtful) you'd know the exact reasons that he became a Democrat years ago.

He's not a phony like some RINO's and DINO's are - he's open, honest and just a little bit ((( LOUD )))

Eddie goes into lengthy detail about what made him sick of the Republican party---- and what it was that made him see the light and become a Registered DEMOCRAT.

Let me guess.. you probably think that General Wes Clark is a Republican too?

(just a hunch)

I'm really saddened by the intolerance found at DU lately. A small handful of people here don't like a comment by a a fellow DU member, a radio host, a politican, or whoever --- and they blast them with comments like yours calling them a Republican.

It's sad ---and it's wrong ---

- - - -

(p.s. to guidod :hug: ..I just saw your note, and I'll respond back to you when I get back from my hockey game.. Cross your fingers that I get a hattrick! :) ) -- After reading pabsungenis post, the other team had better watch their butts.. I'll be taking it out on them!

((( SHE SHOOTS.... SHE SCORES!!!! ))))

[Marleyb]

51. Ed Shultz is not always right

but he is definately helping. He has the best callers, and most often lets them talk about whatever they want. He even has questions about 9/11! He openly states that the republicans have the elections under control by machine.

Yesterday, he and a caller were discussing Paul Craig Roberts article about our new Gestapo uniform division to be run and expanded by homeland security...Ed seemed a little worried about it and asked "where can I read about that again..?"

Unfathomed Dangers in PATRIOT Act Reauthorization
http://www.antiwar.com/roberts/?articleid=8434

[sendero]

52. About Ed Schultz...

... I listened to him today, but I will admit that my total time listening to him is probably only a couple hours.

Ed is not as left as I am. He is not as angry as I am. I don't agree with everything Ed says.

But - we need Ed on the air and could use a bunch more like him. There is something some of you need to try hard to get your head around. FOLKS ARE NOT GOING TO GO FROM HARD RIGHT TO HARD LEFT IN ONE FELL SWOOP. We need to pull people from the right to the center, and Ed is perfect for that.

The moderation in his positions may sound like "sellout" or "DINO" or "DLC" to you, to me it sounds like someone trying to appeal to the vast middle. On the issues that will EVENTUALLY RESTORE THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY TO POWER, i.e. the ECONOMY and HEALTH CARE - he is usually right there.

Give the man a fucking break already.

[guidod]

53. Like Ed said,

If you don't win the middle you lose elections.