Botox - Botox - Botox ! All over the news !

[Hoppin_Mad]

I watched a few hours of CNN, MSNBC and network news today and heard several mentions of Kerry's suspected botox.

If it turns out Kerry HAS had Botox treatments, after his denial saying he's " never even heard of Botox" - the media and those not enamored with his anointment will crucify him much worse than was done with 'Gore creating the internet'.

Has the Kerry campaign come up with a logical, believable reason that he looks much less wrinkled now than several months ago ?

Extra Sleep ?

Vitamins ?

Mud Packs ?

Restorative powers of Heinz 57 Sauce ?

[Emillereid]

1. Maybe he's under the care of the good Dr. Dean

[shooga]

25. Tweety AGAIN

now that Tweety has screwed Dean by playing that videotape over about a thousand times, now he has to trash Kerry with this botox crap.

what is with this a$$hole - - - is he on Rove Payroll ??




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[Vis Numar]

33. the "before" kerry

[Vis Numar]

35. another "pre"

[Vis Numar]

55. after

[Tinoire]

36. Oh lol. That was priceless! Wish I were a political cartoonist! n/t

[Mobius]

2. yep, Kerry LIED!

About a stupid thing, he didnt even have to lie about. I think he's a big coward, personally.

[CatWoman]

3. and you know this to be true because................................

.........................?

[THUNDER HANDS]

14. he didn't lie

If you notice, the original poster said "IF"

[DemBones DemBones]

21. Why is it anyone's business whether someone else used BoTox,

had a nose job or a brow lift or any other cosmetic surgery, colors his/her hair, had teeth capped, had a hair transplant, etc.?

I really don't need to know about any of that, just as I didn't need to know about Clinton's sex life and don't need to hear people talking about their sex lives on television.

It's the Too Much Information Age. :eyes:

[jsw_81]

69. A big coward?

With a Silver Star, a Bronze Star, and three Purple Hearts?

[molly]

4. Botox treatment numbs facial muscles so they do not MOVE

is Kerry's face still fluid and movable? If he couldn't raise his eyebrows - smile - etc, he would have had Botox - just watch his face.

[lastknowngood]

9. Wait a minute Kerry's face

never moved anyway so how would we know?
<joke>

[molly]

15. Actually, if you ever met him - he is quite warm and

his face tells the story of his life - he is quite expressive. I missed him here in Delaware tonight because I had to work.

[krkaufman]

41. Damn, that's a hard life...! n/t

[JasonDeter]

5. BRING IT ON!!!!!!!!!

I love that Kerry response. I don't really care if mud is slung to see if it sticks. I do care if the media is portraying a candidate in a less than flattering light like they did Gore and like they're doing with Dean. The only thing different with Kerry though is he will get right back in your face. So as Kerry will say, "BRING IT ON BABY!!"

[molly]

18. I love your kitty!

BRING IT ON! I think we need a new avatar with those words and a picture of your kitty.

[MoonRiver]

6. Yeah, so what? * wore a cod piece and strutted around like a peacock

:puke: And so it begins, 2000 redux.

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[stickdog]

30. What does this mean? (nt)

[Myra]

8. And if he did have botox!

Who the fuck cares?!

It's no one's damn business but his own.

[Toucano]

10. I'm no longer sure.

Last night in the debate, I would have sworn he had work done. I even commented on it.

Later, I compared a lot of photos from the past and am no longer sure.

He is coloring his hair, but so am I. He hasn't lied about it, so I don't care.

He also used to wear his hair much longer in the front, so it created a shadow that might account for some of the darkness that used to be under his eyes. It also hid much of his forehead, which we now see.

I've concluded that his improved appearance could very well have been accomplished without botox injections.

As for having "never heard of it", I don't know that he can go that far, but it doesn't really matter. As long as there isn't a video somewhere of someone injecting his face muscles, he gets a pass.

[Eloriel]

57. Is that why there are no furrows in his forehead and it also

doesn't move -- at all?

[THUNDER HANDS]

11. actually it was quite simple

He won Iowa and New Hampshire and suddenly became REALLY happy!

Dean might wanna try winning a few states too. :evilgrin:

[MoonRiver]

19. Probably got a good night's sleep. I KNOW that helps.

Collagen cream too.

[SharonAnn]

12. Regained some of the weight lost after prostate surgery

D'uh!

[Hoppin_Mad]

20. Thanks ! That's a LOGICAL and plausible explanation ! -nt-

[Eloriel]

58. Nope, it's neither

For one thing, this miraculous improvement happened quite literally over night. NO ONE (not even me) gains weight THAT fast.

For another, there was a day he took completely off -- canceling all his appearances -- right after Iowa.

[Hoppin_Mad]

62. Oops - I thought the pics used were a couple years apart

Personally I don't hive a shit anout the botox - or Kerry's looks - for all I care he could have a purple mohawk - Hell, I'd like him better with a purple mohawk.

It's about honesty.

[tishaLA]

13. You know that old quote

about the only way I can lose now"is if they find me in bed with a dead girl or a live boy"? Well, I think we can add to that "or botcholism in my forehead"

Edit: I ahve to make clar that I'm joking here. I almost forgot.

[cally]

16. Pleeease, this is ridiculuous!

Remember Kennedy won the debate because of makeup! The radio audience thought Nixon won.

Looks do matter! I would think a candidate is ridiculous if they don't use all the tools available to look more 'presidential'. This is politics where message is everything. We can pretend that voters think and vote on issues. They vote on who they perceive is the best candidate. Part of that is looks.

Do what you can to appear more attractive to voters. There is nothing that makes you more moral if you are born with it.

[Langis]

17. OMG!!! Kerry has WMD on his FACE!!!!

At least that's what fox just reported.

[stickdog]

32. No wonder he voted for the war! (nt)

[RetroLounge]

22. and after ABC plays the story 700 times

they will apologize on page 17 somewhere.

Get used to it, Kerry Supporters, and thicken your skin, it's only gonna get worse.

[THUNDER HANDS]

23. this is nothing

Botox. Please, I wish this is the worst we get.

[Cocoa]

24. people are actually helping the whores?

here at DU, one of our favorite activities is deconstructing the ridiculous attacks the media leveled against Al Gore.

And now we're eating them up?

[shawmut]

27. I notice

It is usually the same people over and over and over. The grapes are still sour, it seems. :(

[stepnw1f]

28. I beginning to...

believe people here deserve Bush.

[jean]

26. he's had a hair update and probably a facial as well

while we're at it would anyone else benefit appearance wise from a visit by the Fab Five (Queer Eye for the Straight Guy guys)?

[ACPS65]

29. YET ANOTHER REASON WHY I WON'T VOTE FOR KERRY!

NOBODY but DEAN! If it's not DEAN I'm going GREEN!

DEAN in 04!

YEARRRGHHHH!

[girl gone mad]

31. A non-issue.

But, even if he has never heard of it (hard to believe), I don't think he should admit to that. Everyone else on planet America knows what it is, so that makes him look pretty out of touch.

[madrchsod]

34. what about pickle`s botox?

why don`t the whores mention that? i know ,they wouldn`t think of it..but hillary was fair game..
really who gives a shit? what does it have to do with anything?

[Gloria]

37. As the gang on the McLaughlin Group all agreed....it's no biggie

to use botox (Eleanor Clift said there are plenty of Repugs use it and someone else mentioned Reagan's hair dye)

BUT----

The final word they all agreed on was: "If he lied about it, it's a problem."

[DieboldMustDie]

38. Hey! Isn't botulism toxin...

a potential biological weapon? :crazy:

[krkaufman]

39. That'll be tough

> the media ... will crucify him much worse than was
> done with 'Gore creating the internet'.

That'll be tough to do.

[genius]

40. Clearly Botox is more important than the economy or health care or

Iraq or education or any other issue. We need to get the news media to cover REAL issues.

[frustrated_lefty]

42. I dunno, I'd be concerned about any candidate

who claims to have never even heard of a biological WMD. Does he at least know what anthrax is? Botulinum toxin has escaped his notice? After his 30 years in government?

[killbotfactory]

43. This is about his presidential temperment

Are americans ready for a man who cares so much about his appearance that he will inject toxins into his face to kill muscles?

Going on Extreme Make-over might be a media coup, though.

[Eloriel]

59. I think it's a VERY big deal

Frankly, I think any FEMALE getting botox injections is too vain for her own good. And certainly does nothing good for getting away from false and impossible standards of womanhood that are put out there by the media all the time (aka: sexism).

But for a male to get them, and someone who's running for President at that, is just sick. Yes, sick. I MIGHT understand someone who's an actor. But a Presidential candidate? Sick, sick, sick.

His reputation as a narcissist precedes him, and this only confirms it. We already have one narcissist in the White House -- do we really need to replace him with another?

And Oh, the irony: "The Real Deal?" Nah, Just another slickly packaged and marketed "product." Not as packaged as Clark, perhaps, but packaged all the same.

[meisje]

44. Weapons of Male Desperation!

n/t

[genius]

45. Actually, I think he looks more wrinkled that he used to.

Maybe he had reverse Botox. Here's a real issue. Arnold Terminator just refused to stay the execution of a probably innocent man until tests can prove his innocence. Kerry is at least opposed to the death penalty "except for terrorists." So while he may approve the execution of Democratic terrorists, he would probably have saved the life of the man mentioned above.

[DrFunkenstein]

46. Before And After Pictures

Before:



After:

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

63. Hahahahaha!

Damn where do you get that shit? I want some!

[neverforget]

47. That's it! Botox is the last straw. I can't vote for Kerry.

<sarcasm> :crazy: :eyes: How can he see past the Botox to see into Putin's soul? :crazy: :eyes:

edited for spelling :spank:

[Blue_Roses]

48. Who gives a flying flip

whether Kerry has botox? Geezee...how superficial.

[DrFunkenstein]

49. Apparently, He Uses Clorox As Well

I don't trust anyone who feels they need their whites to be that white...

[CalProf]

52. Dr. Funk, where have you been?

I looked forward to reading you after the victories, but you've been gone.

Welcome back!:yourock:

[ibegurpard]

50. the "liberal" media

Hey, they admitted to manipulating "the scream" footage...you think they're gonna let this one go?

[TheWebHead]

51. BRING IT ON!

before


after


post this Drudge... :)

[HazMat]

53. Team Dean ?

After all, they had to get back at Kerry for "taking" it all away from them.

Dean is an asterisk now and has nothing to lose, and IMO made this story up and gave it to Drudge.

Bring it on.

I think Team Kerry needs to eliminate Dean instead of letting him hang around to cause trouble. Kerry can't play it safe now. Dean must be dealt a fatal and final blow. Then, and only then can we start to deal with the Republicans. Right now every enemy from the left and right is charging hard at us. With Dean out of the picture this fight will be much simpler.

[ibegurpard]

54. I heard it about on Drudge on here again tonight

Nothing about from the Dean campaign...sorry to burst your bubble.

[Adjoran]

56. It could all go away

if he releases his medical records.

[dawn]

60. How lame

I'm just waiting for any Orange County Repukes to comment on this. This area seems to be founded by Republican women who can't move their foreheads, and men who get Botox to stop sweating. I'll laugh in their faces if they bring this up.

[ibegurpard]

61. I know a lot of Montana Democratic men

who wouldn't be very impressed by this.

[CWebster]

64. If he said he never heard of botux he is lying

There was a front page article in the NYTimes about Kerry's wife a few months back. It mentioned the controversy over her acknowledged use of botux.

[ibegurpard]

67. Are you shitting me?

Has she actually used Botox? If so, why would he lie about such a stupid little thing?

[Eurobabe]

65. i bet he's had that injectible stuff that fills the crevices

Zyderm or zyplast. I see no evidence of his face not moving, but something has been done to erase those canyons on his face. Like a major dermabrasion or something?

http://www.beautybeforeage.com/botox/botox_collagen.htm

[0rganism]

66. More media whore hypocrisy! How many of them have botox'd?

I'll bet every single news anchor on a major network, male or female, has at least considered it. I'd bet money if there were any way to find out for sure.

When it first got popular, it was like the press couldn't praise it enough. So what does it matter if John Kerry had botox? Big deal. It's like the color of Al Gore's tie, or the pattern on Wes Clark's sweater. They'll cover anything but the issues.

How I hate the whores. How I hate them.

[jsw_81]

68. You Dean supporters are hilarious

Kerry kicks your butt in Iowa and New Hampshire, and your response is to accuse him of having some sort of silly cosmetic procedure? LOL!

No wonder you're losing.

[isbister]

70. Kerry did not say..

he never heard of Botox

He was asked about a report about his having used Botox to which he replied that he hadn't heard of it (the report, not the Botox).

[ibegurpard]

71. I don't think so

"Some media have started publishing pictures of Kerry now and comparing them with photos from a few months back.

Blute and Scotto, hosts of a talk show on WRKO radio in Boston, Kerry's home city, asked him on Tuesday whether he denied ever using Botox or other kinds of cosmetic surgery.

"Absolutely, I've never even heard it," Kerry responded. "I've never even heard of it."

Botox is an injectable drug that paralyzes facial muscles to eliminate wrinkles. Its makers say 11 million people around the world have had the treatment."

http://sify.com/news/fullstory.php?id=13375601

[jsw_81]

72. Do you think the botox issue will revive the Dean campaign?

ROFLMAO

[ibegurpard]

73. Of course not

But maybe it will help deflate the swelled heads of a few Kerry supporters.

[jsw_81]

76. Is botox one of your main issues in this campaign?

Right up there with taxes and defense? LOL

[ibegurpard]

78. Come on now

If I can stomach people turning a legitimate draft exemption into draft dodging then I think people can take a little ribbing about botox.

[NNN0LHI]

74. That is odd

I watched the same channels as the poster said he watched during the same time period yesterday and I never seen one mention of what the poster speaks of in his post. I wonder if there is a link available?

Don

[ibegurpard]

75. Well since it was television that would be doubtful but here's something

http://sify.com/news/fullstory.php?id=13375601

[NNN0LHI]

77. CNN and MSNBC provide transcripts for their news shows. Lets see one

The poster was not talking about sify.com. He was talking about this being all over the news on CNN, MSNBC, etc., all day. I think the poster is full of shit. Thanks anyway though.

Don

[Moderator]

79. Locking.....

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accepted to be true, you must provide a link to a reputable source to back up
your claim. Allegedly "innocent" questions which are actually an
underhanded effort to spread rumors are not allowed. If you really need to know
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