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samhsarah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 06:27 PM
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Who speaks for the Democratic Party?
Edited on Mon Jan-16-06 06:38 PM by samhsarah
Schneider on Lou Dobbs Tonight seems to think Al Gore does.

Excerpt from Al Gore's speech today:

A president who breaks the law is a threat to the very structure of our government. Our Founding Fathers were adamant that they had established a government of laws and not men. Indeed, they recognized that the structure of government they had enshrined in our Constitution - our system of checks and balances - was designed with a central purpose of ensuring that it would govern through the rule of law. As John Adams said: "The executive shall never exercise the legislative and judicial powers, or either of them, to the end that it may be a government of laws and not of men."

An executive who arrogates to himself the power to ignore the legitimate legislative directives of the Congress or to act free of the check of the judiciary becomes the central threat that the Founders sought to nullify in the Constitution - an all-powerful executive too reminiscent of the King from whom they had broken free. In the words of James Madison, "the accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary, in the same hands, whether of one, a few, or many, and whether hereditary, self-appointed, or elective, may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny."........

This legal theory, which its proponents call the theory of the unitary executive but which is more accurately described as the unilateral executive, threatens to expand the president's powers until the contours of the constitution that the Framers actually gave us become obliterated beyond all recognition. Under this theory, the President's authority when acting as Commander-in-Chief or when making foreign policy cannot be reviewed by the judiciary or checked by Congress. President Bush has pushed the implications of this idea to its maximum by continually stressing his role as Commander-in-Chief, invoking it has frequently as he can, conflating it with his other roles, domestic and foreign. When added to the idea that we have entered a perpetual state of war, the implications of this theory stretch quite literally as far into the future as we can imagine.

This effort to rework America's carefully balanced constitutional design into a lopsided structure dominated by an all powerful Executive Branch with a subservient Congress and judiciary is-ironically-accompanied by an effort by the same administration to rework America's foreign policy from one that is based primarily on U.S. moral authority into one that is based on a misguided and self-defeating effort to establish dominance in the world.

more at:http://www.algore-08.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=325&Itemid=78


Al Gore speaks for the Democratic Party?

Yup, works for me.



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FightinNewDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 06:30 PM
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1. Lou Dobbs? You jest!
No offense to Al Gore, but I really don't want a xenophobic, isolationist Buchanan-style paleoconservative like Lou Dobbs annointing the voice of the Democratic Party.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 06:32 PM
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5. It was Schneider who did the excellant reporting and he did not annoint
gore. but instead, said the Dems were timid and not wanting to risk their political careers--so Al stepped into this vaccuum with his speach today.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 06:30 PM
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2. Bill Schneider asked this on cnn twice today--says Gore stepping into
the vacuum that that has been created with Repug scandle and timid Dem. minority leadership (who are timid).
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sweetm2475 Donating Member (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 06:31 PM
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3. kick
:kick:
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 06:32 PM
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4. It only took a cat5 hurricane and NSA spying to force CNN to HEAR DEMS
when they speak.

That is WHEN CNN decides to cover it.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 06:34 PM
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6. at least cnn is covering Gore (as far as I know msnbc did very little)
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 06:34 PM
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8. and Plame and Libby and Abramoff, etc. Don't forget.
It's getting so even the greatest diehard Bush supporter can't close his or her eyes to the avalanche of scandals in this administration and the Republican Party in general.
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NativeTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 06:34 PM
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7. Gore is as good as any...better than most...
He should have done so earlier...I mean, he IS the REAL President of the United States.
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samhsarah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 06:39 PM
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9. OK, I edited the post to say SCHNEIDER on Lou Dobbs....
Sorry for the confusion.:+
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 08:55 PM
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10. Gore DID win the 2000 election
And I believe he could win 2008. Hes tested and he survived 8 yrs of repugnant smear tactics.

Yea, hes a strong candidate.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 09:27 PM
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11. I would love to see a weekly, or even daily, radio address.
Edited on Mon Jan-16-06 09:28 PM by Sparkly
They could even rotate speakers -- or heck, I'd take daily speeches from Gore! It would be great for Democrats to speak in some consistent forum, and NOT just as the usual Democratic "response" to Chimpy's radio address. Something the media can quote and note, something to webcast and email, something to circumvent the MSM to some extent.

I think it really helps to have "outsiders" speaking, urging Democrats as well as Republicans in Congress to stand up and fight, and saying all the things our representatives in the halls of politics are afraid to say (rightly or wrongly).

Could you imagine how great it would be to have an address a day from people like these?

Our "outsiders" -- Al Gore, Mario Cuomo, George McGovern, Wesley Clark, Jimmy Carter, John Edwards, etc.

Our more fearless "insiders" -- Barbara Boxer, John Conyers, Maxine Waters, Sheila Jackson Lee, Barbara Lee, Dennis Kucinich, Cynthia McKinney, etc.

But I digress. President Gore's speech today was SUPERB!!! :applause:
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