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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 09:35 PM
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No matter who we nominate, bush* is in trouble. Here's proof:
The record-high turnout in the New Hampshire Democratic primary -- 219,787 Granite State voters took Democratic ballots Tuesday, shattering the previous record of 170,000 in 1992 -- is being read as a signal that voters in one New England state, and most likely elsewhere, are enthusiastic about the prospect of picking a challenger for George W. Bush. And the turnout in the Democratic primary is not even the best indicator of the anti-Bush fervor in New Hampshire, a state that in 2000 gave four critical electoral votes to the man who secured the presidency by a razor-thin Electoral College margin of 271-267.

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One in seven Republican primary voters cast ballots for candidates other than Bush, holding the president to just 85 percent of the 62,927 ballots cast. In some parts of the state, such as southwest New Hampshire's Monadnock Region, a historic bastion of moderate Republicanism, Bush did even worse. In Swanzey, for instance, 37 percent of GOP primary voters rejected Bush. In nearby Surry, almost 29 percent of the people who took Republican ballots voted against the Republican president, while a number of other towns across the region saw anti-Bush votes of more than 20 percent in the GOP primary.

Few of the anti-Bush votes went to the 13 unknown Republicans whose names appeared on GOP ballots along with the president's. Instead, top Democratic contenders reaped write-in votes.


More here:

http://www.thenation.com/thebeat/index.mhtml?bid=1&pid=1221
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snoochie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 09:38 PM
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1. Well you know what 'they' say
You reap what you sow. :)

I'm so looking forward to November.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 09:39 PM
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2. I keep saying.
He's losing the votes he had. And not gaining any new ones.

It's BBV and Jeb or nothing.
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 09:42 PM
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3. Yup. Today on the radio I heard a sportsguy bash Bush.
Edited on Fri Jan-30-04 09:55 PM by barbaraann
He and another radio guy were talking about the Superbowl being in Houston and how Houston was trying to get any famous person who had a connection with the city to talk it up. The sportsguy said something like: I don't know if we want Bush to come--he might invade. I could hardly believe my ears.

People of all sorts are starting to get it. Bush is a warmongering madman.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 09:43 PM
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4. November We all Win!!!
thanks for posting this ...bush is gone.
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mlawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 09:46 PM
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5. No matter who??? Only if this were 1932, I would agree with that.
Edited on Fri Jan-30-04 09:46 PM by mlawson
But it isn't, and I dont. NH voters consisted of committed, involved, informed, *political* voters. Millions of voters in the November general election are uninformed, uncommitted, nonpolitical voters, many of whom vote as if they were in high school, choosing class president or homecoming queen. It really, REALLY does matter who we nominate.
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 09:47 PM
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6. To the trenches!!!
This won't be an easy fight, but it looks like we can WIN!
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 09:47 PM
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7. he will be extremely difficult to beat
The nominee will up against 200 million dollars of attack ads, the corporate media, voting machines that turn tricks and people in positions of power in Florida who can rig the electoral votes of that state.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 09:48 PM
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8. What if they were vets?
Somebody posted an article about the Iowa caucuses, that they were stunned at how many of the new people were Vietnam era vets and their families. Will they turn out for ANY candidate? Clark maybe, the rest I don't know.
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Monte Carlo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 09:55 PM
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9. Maybe, just maybe, Bush's BS is catching up to him?
If so, it's about F-ing time. Maybe you just can't spin an extended, corrupt war enough, nor a live-like-there's-no-tomorrow spending and debt habit.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 09:58 PM
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10. This is good news, but I wonder what the population difference is
1992 is 12 years ago, and this is a 28% raw turnout increase from 1992. Depending on the population growth rate, this could be a normal turnout for the NH Democratic primary when attempting to unseat a republican incumbent.
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prodigal_green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 10:06 PM
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12. scored two this week
Two conservative friends of mine have said they will not vote for Bush. One of them went to http://www.presidentmatch.com and discovered that she had a 92% match with Kerry but only 22% with Bush. She voted for Reagan back in the day, but I think she has since drifted toward the center while the Rebublican party has fallen off the right edge of the universe. Her reaction, "Huh, I guess I'll go ahead and register as a democrat." The other conservative friend just thinks Bush is a jackass and too beholden to Christian fundamentalists (she calls herself a secular conservative).

I think the public may actually be catching on at this point. Other than the 2 million people who watch Fox (I suspect a quarter of those are we liberals just watching to keep tabs on the right).

I'm actually feeling pretty confident at this point.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 10:56 PM
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18. Woo Hoo!! Way to go!
People are finally waking up from their long Limbaugh induced slumber.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 09:11 AM
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19. Hi prodigal_green!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Vogon_Glory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 10:02 PM
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11. From Your Lips To G*d's Ears
I certainly hope the incumbent is facing a nationwide voter revolt by angry moderate Republicans. I'm not at all sure that enough voters elsewhere in the country, particularly here in the western fringe of the former Confederacy have wised up yet. If enough folks elsewhere in the Republic have, people in Tom DeLay's and Joe Barton's districts get to deal with the fact that the rest of the country is fed up with their beamish boy.

:evilgrin:
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PopSixSquish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 10:21 PM
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13. Oddly Enough Joe Scarborough Made a Similar Point the Other Night
(and you don't know how much it hurts me to even think about agreeing with him)

He said on Hardball that there was no blue state which Bush could pick-up. "Not going to win NY,CA,PA". But there were a couple of red states which the Dems could. West Virginia, New Hampshire.

Ron Regan Jr. did say that maybe Bush could in NM, but he doubted it.

I do think the Dems could pick up both WV & NH, but there is no margin of error. So whomever the candidate is, we are going to have to fight like hell.

I'm up for it!
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 10:32 PM
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14. What about Ohio?
And that's amazing about Scarbrough!
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PopSixSquish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 10:49 PM
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16. Somebody From Ohio Will Have to Answer That One
but I dang near fell out of my chair when Scar said all this. I think Tweety did too :crazy:
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 10:44 PM
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15. This is encouraging
but I worry about the dirty tricks that will used against our nominee.

In fact, no matter WHO the nominee is, the smearing that will go on will be breathtaking. And of course the media will be happy to hop on board with the GOP Smear machine.

But I'll fight like hell just like I did in 2000 for Gore! No matter who the nominee is.

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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 10:54 PM
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17. One good thing will come out of the Puke/* smears.
We Dems will stop our squabbling and once again become a unified front of white hot rage against the rightwing machine! Just thinking about those slimeballs now and I'm flashing back to November 2000. Once again I'm mad as hell and NEVER getting over it! NEVER!
:grr::grr::grr:
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