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jonnyo Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 04:38 PM
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Bush Advisor Says Pres Has Power to Crush Child's Testicles
Bush Advisor Says President Has Legal Power to Torture Children

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11488.htm

By Philip Watts

John Yoo publicly argued there is no law that could prevent the President from ordering the torture of a child of a suspect in custody – including by crushing that child’s testicles.

As a deputy assistant to then-Attorney General John Ashcroft, John Yoo authored a number of legal memos arguing for unlimited presidential powers to order torture of captive suspects, and to declare war anytime, any where, and on anyone the President deemed a threat.

This came out in response to a question in a December 1st debate in Chicago with Notre Dame professor and international human rights scholar Doug Cassel.

Cassel: If the President deems that he’s got to torture somebody, including by crushing the testicles of the person’s child, there is no law that can stop him?

Yoo: No treaty.

Cassel: Also no law by Congress. That is what you wrote in the August 2002 memo.

Yoo: I think it depends on why the President thinks he needs to do that.

The audio of this exchange is available online at revcom.us

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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 04:40 PM
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1. Do you think Chimpy confuses John Yoo with God? Yoo has a
nasty fate in store for himself.
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Oreo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 04:43 PM
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2. New RW talking point....
Abortion is a sin but it's ok to crush their testicles once they're born
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mark11727 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 04:44 PM
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3. Who's more evil...?
The president who would order such a torture, or the sick beast who carries it out?

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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 04:47 PM
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5. the one that orders it
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 09:50 PM
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21. There is more than enough evil to go around
in that scenario.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 04:44 PM
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4. Yoo has blood on his hands
The Nuremberg Trials were designed for someone like him.

He is very very dangerous.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 04:51 PM
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6. Sounds Yoo learned a lot about totalitarianism in Communist China
Here's for free trade!
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 04:56 PM
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7. Insane.
Just... insane.
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 05:00 PM
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8. This guy is just a bad knock -knock joke.
But he is typical of the kind of "folks" junior likes to be surrounded by.
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David Dunham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 05:04 PM
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9. F--- Yoo, and I really mean it.
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 05:12 PM
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10. Gosh, if I thought that was a typo, I'd have my feelings hurt.
:)
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mark11727 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 08:16 AM
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26. Y: Knock knock.
G: Who's there?

Y: Yoo.

G: Yoo who?

Y: Me.

G: Me who?

Y: Yoo.

G: You?

Y: Me.

G: Me who?

Y: Yoo.

G: Me?

Y: Not you, Yoo.

G: That's what I said, me.

Y: Not you, me.

G: You?

Y: Yes, me, Yoo.

G: Who?

Y: Yoo.

G: That's what I said, me.

...too effing dumb to be President
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 05:20 PM
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11. Somehow, I don't think the "Greatest Generation"
went to war against madmen like Hitler to defend this. With the neocon mental pygmies like Yoo giving advice to the boy emperor, we have become what we detest the most.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 05:24 PM
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12. The Marquis de Yoo???
As Monty Python said: "Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition", well maybe they do now with psycho George in charge.

Doug D.
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 05:29 PM
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13. Yoo is - how can I put this in technical terms? Friggin' nuts!
As legal minds go, he's a complete LOON.

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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 05:42 PM
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14. Wait, this isn't satire?
I thought it was a joke, but the reply titles look serious.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 07:38 PM
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18. No joke. I wish that it was a joke. So much for "family values".
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 06:27 PM
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15. gimmie a freakin break! unfreakin real. what a psycho!
and apparently he is childless...

(or i hope he is!)
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 07:36 PM
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17. It's only more of the same
These are tactics to hush critics like the ones who post at DU. All tyrants use fear to control criticism. Perhaps we're making a dent in the empire. Anyone who places such emphasis of security is basically insecure by nature. In Freudian terms, this insecurity translates directly into sexual inadequacy. Insecure individuals can't stand criticism. Why do you think it's often males of small stature that become tyrants? By the way, did you see how tall Kerry is compared to the spin-tyrant during the debates?
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 07:34 PM
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16. Some sick rightwing idea of what "Presidential manliness" means:
"Look! He can crush a child's testicles!" With his bare hands, I suppose ...
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 07:58 PM
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20. I'd imagine that the typical right winger sees this as being...
the ulitmate symbol of "manliness".
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SupplyConcerns Donating Member (305 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 07:45 PM
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19. Where did the idea of hitting someone's family come from?
That's what organized crime does. I wonder what their legal justification is for going after someone's child in order to torture them could possibly be. Oh yeah, we don't live under the rule of law anymore.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 09:57 PM
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22. Bingo
The Bush Mafia.
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 10:08 PM
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23. Evil personified

This is the type of person bush surrounds himself with
psychopathic sadists that can envision circumstances
where it is acceptable to them to torture Children
by crushing their genitals.



John Yoo
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John Yoo is a professor of law at the University of California, Berkeley (Boalt Hall), and is best known for his work from 2001 to 2003 in the United States Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel. He contributed to the PATRIOT Act and wrote controversial memos regarding the USA's obligations to enemy combatants under the Geneva Convention.

As an infant, Yoo emmigrated with his parents from South Korea to the United States. Yoo grew up in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, and graduated from Harvard University in 1989 and Yale Law School in 1992. Yoo clerked for United States Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas and U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit Judge Laurence Silberman. From 1995 to 1996 he was general counsel for the Senate Judiciary Committee. He is currently a visiting scholar at the American Enterprise Institute.

After he left the Department of Justice, it was revealed that Yoo authored memos defining torture and American habeas corpus obligations narrowly.<1> Protestors at Berkeley demanded that he renounce the memos or resign his professorship. He has done neither.

It has recently come out that Yoo authored the position that the President had sufficient power to allow the NSA to monitor the communications of US citizens on US soil without a warrant.<2>

Yoo holds some controversial positions on executive authority, once asserting "in the exercise of his plenary power to use military force, the President's decisions are for him alone and are unreviewable."<3>

Recently in a debate with Doug Cassel, John Yoo took part in the following exchange<4>:

Cassel: If the president deems that he's got to torture somebody, including by crushing the testicles of the person's child, there is no law that can stop him?

Yoo: No treaty...

Cassel: Also no law by Congress -- that is what you wrote in the August 2002 memo...

Yoo: I think it depends on why the President thinks he needs to do that.

Yoo's academic work includes analysis of the history of judicial review in the U.S. Constitution. (See discussion in the Marbury v. Madison entry.)

Yoo is the son-in-law of television reporter Peter Arnett.

In the spring of 2006, John Yoo can be found teaching a course on Asian Law at UC Berkeley's Boalt Hall. The course meets thursdays from 3:20-5:10pm in room 140.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Yoo
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 10:14 PM
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24. My favorite cartoon about this says it all
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 08:35 AM
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28. LOL. "... may suspend laws of physics and the natural world"
I bet they believe it!
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 10:27 PM
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25. Tell me where your Daddy keeps his nukes, or I'll crush your nuts, kid.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 08:33 AM
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27. To be fair, Bush does have very strong hands
it comes from his monthlong vacations spent clearing brush
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 10:58 AM
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29. Wait......BOTH testicles?!?!? I think that's going too far!! nt
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 11:01 AM
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30. Looking into the abyss of a president unbound by law
and answering only to his own opinion on "why" he does it.

There's no limit on the atrocities.

If you think that crushed child nuts are the worst that can happen.....

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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 12:11 PM
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31. Doesn't it depend on the definition of the word "crush" ?
I mean he couldn't he have meant that the president could have A crush on the child's testicles.

You know.

Like Priests.
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