Documents Found in Iraq - Look what neocons saying now

[sirjohn]

From the far-right Weekly Standard. Coming up with new excuses for the multiplication of terrorists in Iraq.

I'll just post the header - reading the whole article is not necessary...

Saddam's Terror Training Camps
What the documents captured from the former Iraqi regime reveal--and why they should all be made public.
by Stephen F. Hayes
01/16/2006

THE FORMER IRAQI REGIME OF Saddam Hussein trained thousands of radical Islamic terrorists from the region at camps in Iraq over the four years immediately preceding the U.S. invasion, according to documents and photographs recovered by the U.S. military in postwar Iraq. The existence and character of these documents has been confirmed to THE WEEKLY STANDARD by eleven U.S. government officials.


http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/006/550kmbzd.asp?pg=1

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[zann725]

1. Welcome newbie! Thanks for the "interesting" discovery.

[sirjohn]

7. Thanks, I guess. Everybody was newbie at one time.

[shraby]

2. Sniff...sniff...sniff...

I smell desperation.

[DemInDistress]

3. Is this that Kristol reporting paper?

What's his name ? William? a signer and rabid supporter of PNAC. Have these documents been found in Afghanistan and moved to Iraq? I don't buy Saddam allowing Bin Laden to school there. The more important documents are in our closet,America's dirty laundry,they still can't get that 911 stain out. This kind of shit
riles me up..Grrrr

[LynnTheDem]

4. DEBUNKED every time Weekly & Hayes try peddling this bullshit.

Ya gotta feel sorry for such total desperation. Poor Hayes, stupid fool.

[bemildred]

5. I don't get it. What is the point of this?

So Saddam outsmarted us? Was way ahead of us? God and everybody with a brain said there was going to be a guerilla war of resistance when we invaded. Saddam himself said in the runup to the war that it was going to happen and he got pooh-poohed all to hell for it. I'm not going to even bother to google the stuff up again. Why do these blowhards want to advertise their incompetence?

[sirjohn]

8. That's the way I read it too. Anothet Intel bungle.

They are constantly being surprised.

[kikiek]

11. More like the ones who planned the invasion like Rummy and factory.

It was obvious and ignored by this administration. Article looks like bullshit anyways.

[LynnTheDem]

10. It's all BULLSHIT. There were NO training camps AT ALL PERIOD.

And the US Military itself has already admitted they've found NO training camps AT ALL PERIOD.

Stephen Hayes is a total nutball and a liar with zero credibility with anyone but rabid idiotic moran rightwingnuts.

[bemildred]

18. Yeah, I know, it's lies, but why?

What delusion leads them to want to spread these lies?
It doesn't make them look good. It's much too old to help out
with the fear-mongering effort today. It's a propaganda bungle
a sign of a defective grip on reality.

[punpirate]

20. It's not about the current difficulties...

... it's about proving that the Bushies were right about a connection between Hussein and al-Qaeda, something that's generally been well-debunked already. They simply cannot let this go. They are trying, rather desperately, to show a connection as a justification for invading another country--2-1/2 years after the fact to make Bush look good.

The key to this being bullshit is the repeated assertion that Hussein was financing Ansar al-Islam, and there's just no connection there--even al-Qaeda didn't want to have anything to do with them--they're the Kurdish equivalent of fundamentalist rednecks. A lot of people have conveniently forgotten that several days before the advertised start of the invasion, the US bombed the few villages controlled by Ansar al-Islam and shortly afterwards, CIA and Special Forces were sent in to gather the evidence of chemical weapons and poison labs which Chalabi's people and the OSP were sure were there. They found nothing. Absolutely nothing.

This is getting so tiresome that it's silly. It's all about propping up Dimson.

Cheers.

[Lexingtonian]

6. Wow, "thousands"....

Don't tell me- they've haven't actually caught a single real one despite all these forgeries pieces of documentary evidence.

They all got Romulan 'cloaking' devices on graduation, I'm sure.

[LynnTheDem]

9. WHO is Stephen Hayes, you ask? WHO is his publisher, you ask?

His publisher? Rupert Murdoch. 'Nuff said right there.

Who is Hayes? Why, he's Douglas Feith’s stenographer. And ya'll know what creek the traitor & liar Feith is up now.



Another Whopper From Stephen Hayes
http://thinkprogress.org/2005/10/26/hayes-whopper/

And another...
http://mediamatters.org/items/200510210001

And another...
http://mediamatters.org/items/200511140015

And another...
Right-Wing Myths About Leak Investigation, Debunked
http://thinkprogress.org/2005/10/19/leak-myths/

Liar, liar pants on fire
http://mediamatters.org/items/200406300014

http://mediamatters.org/items/200510260009

Hayes has a history of false and dubious assertions, especially concerning alleged cooperation between former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein and Al Qaeda.
http://mediamatters.org/items/200501240009

One man's lonely belief in an Iraq-Al Qaeda connection
http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:MAjyYj1qqNsJ:tnr.com/doc.mhtml%253Fi%3D20051128%26s%3Dtrb112805+One+man%27s+lonely+belief+in+an+Iraq-Al+Qaeda+connection&hl=en

[LibertyorDeath]

12. That piece of shit article from that right wing rag

is in Karl Roves hand writing
And has an Office of Special Plans water mark

Tell me you posted this for our amusement because
it's complete propaganda bullshit.

[sirjohn]

13. Not really, I didn't find it amusing. Can't sleep tonight

Was mostly struck by the timing of the piece. Looks like part of a coordinated attack from the WH.

[Neil Lisst]

14. The Weekly Standard is a propaganda rag.

It's PNAC through and through.

I don't believe them and I don't believe whatever made-up documents the Bush Administration has fabricated.

[sirjohn]

15. Nice cartoon site you linked - yours? n/t

[Neil Lisst]

17. Thanks.

Yes it is.

[4nic8em]

16. No doubt whatsoever

these documents were discovered in the exact same location as the 50,000 tons of bioweapons, just across the street from the "mobile weapons labs". Certainly within real close proximity to all those "45 minutes from doomsday" nukes.

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[snowbear]

22. AAhhh... really?

:scared: :scared:

[CJCRANE]

23. I think

it should be a :sarcasm: alert!

[annabanana]

26. welcome to DU

(and PLEASE remember to use this smiley - :sarcasm: - when posting what should be obvious to everyone here)---- at least until your postcount is up a bit...

[LynnTheDem]

29. LOL!!! Don't forget the empty boxes of choccie.

:rofl:

[AtomicKitten]

21. Stick a fork in it, PNAC'ers, you're so busted on Iraq.

So now we invaded iraq because of freakin' documents? Pathetic.

[TheBaldyMan]

24. so there are at most 200-300 insurgents in Iraq according to Rummy

but Saddam trained THOUSANDS before invasion. Probably to the north, south, east and west of Baghdad and all points inbetween.

Q: Can this administrations claims about anything be trusted?
A: Definitely not, their credibility was strained from the first rigged election then rapidly evaporated

[CJCRANE]

25. Just a bit of red meat for freepers to chew on nt

[ihelpu2see]

27. again, I would say that these are highly suspect...

the real proof is there was no recon sat. pictures of these camps EVER.... Notes/documents mean nothing... the fact that there was no terrorist activity in Iraq prior to our invasions is more proof....

I get documents all the time saying Im a winner of 1 Million dollars.... But does the money ever show up?

Spin spin spin...

[tjwash]

28. AT LAST!! The trooth that the librul medeea aint tellin us!

That's it, from now on the only two bookmarks on my computer for news are the weekly standard, and capitol hill blue.:eyes:

You just get the feeling that these freeper nitwits would gladly take us back to barbarism, and living in fucking caves if it for one second justified their twisted reasons for invading Iraq in the first place.

[leesa]

30. Right.

[Dr Fate]

31. So when is the coward Bush going to give a press conference about it?

If this is really true, why aint the loser talking about it on TV?

[OneTwentyoNine]

32. Were they training at that turkey farm where all the WMD were?!?!

Jesus what bullshit. But hey...toss it out there and those sheep that follow Repukes will lap it up.

[sirjohn]

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/sarcasm