Kucinich Ad: Listen Up Young America--You could be facing a DRAFT!!!

[Dems Will Win]

First Dem candidate to bring up the DRAFT!!

http://resources.kucinich.us/video/video/listen_up/listen_up_real_broadband.ram

[JohnKleeb]

1. but hes unelectable ;)

;)
Oh man that guy, sigh I wish more could believe.

[NormanConquest]

2. ...

[lolly]

3. Narrator?

Is that Danny Glover narrating?

[JohnKleeb]

4. likely he did endorse him

Go DK. This is yet another great move. Hopin for a shocka in Iowa.

[Dems Will Win]

5. Yup!

Danny Glover...

[Mairead]

23. Yes, that's Danny

[BenZodiac]

6. 18 to 25 year olds

18 to 25 year olds vote in pathetic numbers.
Hopefully this will get them to vote more.

[JVS]

27. Try to help get them absentee ballots, many are not near home in Nov.

Also I remember that although I had requested an absentee ballot when I was in Germany in 2000, none came. My mother was lucky enough to run into one of the party cheifs in the area and he asked if I'd be voting and she said I needed a ballot, he got one sent to me. But not everyone knows their local party cheifs. I remember friends who couldn't make it home to vote. We should do outreach to this group, it's money in the bank

[gate of the sun]

7. this could lose Bush the election

the draft that is....we need to come up with a slogan. Been trying to come up with one and have it printed any ideas? the draft can be a powerful issue. Hence why they are denying they are going to do one. good call for Kucinich this ad and very important.

[Dems Will Win]

8. Bush '04 = DRAFT '05

How about that for a bumper sticker?

[Nadienne]

34. I like it! n/t

[JohnKleeb]

9. yep

but sigh experience has taught me he will be ignored in his noble causes.

[DemBones DemBones]

13. Hey, John, this is great -- DK speaking out

about the coming draft AND his campaign contributions are shooting up!
Don't lose heart now. Keep the faith!

[JohnKleeb]

14. Thanks DBDB

I know, time for an Iowa shocka. We may not win Iowa :) but a little suprise could be in order. That is great, he is speaking about the coming draft. I will support him until he leaves office on January 20. 2013 :). He is just so inspirational, and I bet like always the media will ignore this, oy its annoying but here is to the man who has the potential to be one of our best :toast: ever.

[IndianaGreen]

10. Excellent ad by Kucinich

I am contributing to his "vanity" campaign, as Ted Koppel described it, tonight.

[revcarol]

11. I bought one of the posters

and helped buy a billboard in Iowa.

Young people who can't get employed after high school and after college will be drafted so they can't eventually get into the work force, be laid off,and then collect unemployment.

See how this would help the nation? Gotta stop all those people on the dole!!

[JohnKleeb]

12. He's so brave and stands for so much

President Kucinich :D oh my that sounds great.

[wingnut]

15. I hate to be a party pooper, but

All bush has to do is point out that all the legislation to bring back the draft has been submitted by Democrats.

I know why Rangel did it, as a tactical move to help galvanize the anti-war movement, but I fear that he is going to score an own-goal here.

He's left the repugs the opportunity to take the high road, so to speak.

[SahaleArm]

16. There's no way Bush accepts a no-exemption draft resolution n/t

[Nadienne]

33. Ah, but I can see the loophole already

"Relatives of politicians may be exempted, and also relatives of the powerhouses of the corporate world, because of the risk of a hostage situation..."

[revcarol]

35. As in FDR shouldn't have let his son go into the armed forces...

or Admiral McCain shouldn't have let John....hell, even repugs wouldn't fall for that one.Oh, I forgot, decency and common sense have gone the way of the wooly mammoth.

[Nadienne]

36. Okay, so maybe Bush*'ll get bashed for exemptions like that

But then again, you would think Bush & Co would get bashed for the Patriot Act, etc...

[JVS]

38. Yeah but the seal has been broken by Rangel

He'll be able to spin this as the fault of Democrats

[oasis]

21. PNAC. Project for the New American Century. A neocon think tank

planned and created the conditions which made the war in Iraq possible. Cheney, Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz and Jebbie Bush are rock solid charter members and are as Republiican as you can get.

PNAC's visions of American conquests don't end in Iraq. Syria and Iran are next on the list. Armies of occupation will be reqiured to accomplish their goal of Pax Americana.

www.newamericancentury.org

[mouse7]

44. Rangel is Wesley Clark supporter.

A Co-Chair, I think.

So there's 8 candidates that are free and clear.

Clark supporters, better be ready to deal with that question.

[Tinoire]

46. And also that Clark drew up the "Occupation of Iraq Plans" n/t

[Myra]

17. Yeah...

Isn't that just amazing that they're broadcasting the
return of the draft before an election?!

They must be totally unafraid of voter backlash.
Presumably because of voter fraud.
Dunno what else to think...

[nomaco-10]

18. Amurka won't listen....

they're too busy being entertained with the news of Laci, Kobe and Michael, besides half of Murka would be proud and honored to offer up the blood of their young'uns to the alter of bush* Sad, ain't it?

[Myra]

19. First Dem candidate to bring up...most everything...

Diebold, draft, media bias of Dem candidates...
Hell, he brought up that last one during the debate!
(Tho' Sharpton got the delicious last word in.)

[JohnKleeb]

20. unelectable :) only if you are afraid

Go DK, you are absolutely right Myra, he brings up what outta be mentioned, if Teddy Koppel had his wish, nothing important would be brought up. We may not win this thing but damnit we know our candiate was a bold sob and had some great views, and who knows we may yet win.

[Nadienne]

30. It takes courage to support a candidate

that you believe in.

And cowardice and fear will corral votes in the direction of compromise and "electability".

I hope we win. I hope we succeed. I hope we can be brave; I hope our courage is contagious. Hear us roar!

[Shlyapnikov]

22. Where do Other Dem Candidates Stand on the Draft?

OK, we know where Kucinich stands on the Draft. As he is on most issues, his position is pretty unambiguous here. Where do the other Democratic candidates stand on the Draft?

Dean supporters, in particular, please speak up for your man on this. It is my impression that he SUPPORTS a draft, but I hope I am wrong here. Kerry? Clark?

I heard Charlie Rangel's argument and might have been convinced BEFORE the Iraq war. But it is now clear that ANY call for the return of the Draft will only serve to compel people to serve as cannon fodder for imperial ambitions.

Bush and Co. have overstretched the current manpower. They are unable to rotate the troops quickly enough. Reserve and National Guard forces are being forced to stay in Iraq and Afghanistan for much longer than originally anticipated. Re-enlistments are down and fewer folks are going into the reserve and National Guard. These alleged "conservatives" are a threat to the good functioning of the armed forces of the United States.

Bush would rather spend military dollars on contracts for his crony buddies than for pay and benefits sufficient to attack adequate volunteers to meet the manpower needs for implementing the PNAC's ambitious plans.

So now some congressional Democrats come along and, using progressive sounding rhetoric, offer to provide the draft as a solution to the manpower problem of unilateral world domination.

I look forward to frank statements on this issue from supporters of the various candidates.

[newyawker99]

26. Hi Shlyapnikov!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[Shlyapnikov]

40. Thanks for the Warm welcome!

Thanks, NewYawker!

I've lurked here on and off for a while, but have decided to jump into the discussion.

Shlyap

[mouse7]

45. Dean, Kerry don't need a draft to support Iraq. UN will come in.

Dean and Kerry wants the UN to come into Iraq, so there will not be a need for a draft. Lieberman pretty much wants status quo on the ground. I simply don't know Gephardt, Edwards and Braun position well enough.

I believe Sharpton would withdraw like Kucinich.

On edit: to be clearer, Dean and Kerry would have UN with US troops with UN (or possibly NATO maybe?) Peacekeeper structure in command.

[TexasSissy]

24. Kucinich is usu. on the cutting edge, isn't he?

He's just a package of dynamite. And that's a good thing. He doesn't have a chance, but I think the country is better off with him around.

[LWolf]

39. Yes, he is.

I think he has a chance. I think he is good for what ails us. And I think supporting "the cutting edge" helps move us in a positive direction! In Dennis' words:

http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2003/12/23/171559/76

What is radical about healthcare for all? What is radical about education for all? What is radical about jobs for all? When that starts to be radical, we have to ask ourselves, what in the heck has happened to this country? All of a sudden somebody starts talking about peace and prosperity and is seen as a radical? My God, where are we going as a nation? What does that say? All of a sudden "mainstream" is supporting monopolies? Mainstream is supporting war? Mainstream is supporting a healthcare system that is stopping people from being able to get care? It's like America has gone upside down, and so, you know, I am here to help put it right side up.

[Killarney]

25. Every candidate should be pushing this message

Americans need to know that Bush wants to reinstate the draft.

[Nadienne]

28. Kucinich first again...

Wow, he's so good it's almost scary!

(And actually, I myself got compelling info just Monday that seemed to point in the direction of bush 04 = draft 05... In the form of an e-mail which I printed and promptly deleted. Ironically, the e-mail was from a list-server that has very little to do with politics. The subject of politics rarely comes up. Way to go, Kucinich! Always cutting edge!)

[JohnKleeb]

29. This is typical Dennis

:) Standing up for us. He did something about Diebold too, sigh I didnt hear about that in the paper. Oh its a tough road we have ahead of us, but we can manage I think. Go DK!

[Nadienne]

32. An editorial in the paper this morning

(or maybe yesterday morning, Sioux City Journal - IA)

from a local woman reminded us of the potential dangers of touch screen voting. "Make sure to get verification on paper" (not her exact words). She didn't mention DK, but I'm sure she's following this more closely than many Americans who have their news spoon fed to them by some biased source. Three cheers for her!!!

And three cheers for DK for his vigilance and courage!!!

[Zinsipperlover]

31. Good for Kucinich

This needs to be brought up by a candidate. Those young repugs need to know what they are voting for.

[dpbrown]

37. Fear Ends, Hope Begins. Kucinich.

This is an excellent campaign decision.

[Zomby Woof]

41. as usual

DK leads the ISSUES debate. While the other candidates and their supporters obsess over polls and fundraising, DK is leading the debate with the ISSUES.

Wonder when Dean will rip this one off for his own?

[leftist_rebel1569]

42. It's always Kucinich or Sharpton

bringing up the issues first. These two were against the war from the very beginning. Kucinich has brought up stuff like universal health care, BBV, and other things...now including the draft. Sharpton ALWAYS tells it like it is, and has brought up many civil rights issues in the last few years. So, is anyone else bugged by the fact that these two are near the bottom of the polls?

I think they both can win

[dpbrown]

43. Is it any surprise the corporate whore media isn't hawking this?

Money, money, money...