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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 03:37 AM
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"Mr. Bush, did your administration spy on John Kerry's conversations?"
Does that seem like an OBVIOUS question to you? How come NO ONE in the media is asking it?

As if you needed any further evidence that our American press is owned lock, stock, and barrel by the Republican Party. To me, this just screams it.
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tenshi816 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 03:42 AM
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1. He'd probably lie if the question was asked,
Edited on Tue Jan-03-06 03:51 AM by tenshi816
so the media just figure there's no point.

Edited for typo.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 04:07 AM
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2. since when has that stopped the media before?
I mean, really
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tenshi816 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 08:23 AM
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8. Well, they certainly don't usually ask GWB
questions that tough and specific. Look at the easy ride he's had for the last 5 years compared to Bill Clinton.
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 11:57 AM
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12. Follow up question: "Would you swear to that under oath?"
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Dongfang Hong Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 12:12 PM
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14. Follow-up answer:
"Of course I would. And I'm not going to dignify that type of question with any further answers. Next, please."
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tenshi816 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 03:30 PM
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24. I don't think Junior or any of his neo-con circle
would have the slightest problem lying under oath.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 04:15 AM
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3. He didn't need court orders to listen to John Kerry's phone conversations
because it would be a matter of national security because if he didn't listen to Kerry's phone conversations, Kerry might become President and that would be bad for national security because Bush didn't want Kerry to be President because it would be bad for national security because Bush didn't want Kerry to be President, so he didn't need a court order.

Follow?
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 04:23 AM
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5. The SCOTUS-5 would have said that Kerry being Pres. would have done
irreparable harm to gwb.

:eyes:
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 04:20 AM
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4. Maybe that's why Kerry conceded so quickly.
Isn't it Randi Rhodes who wonders aloud if someone's got photos of ____ (fill in the blank) golfing with Satan?
Who knows what conversations or emails of leading Dems might have been nabbed.

The media has long been aligned with the far right, so I'm not surprised.
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jsmithrn45 Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 05:49 AM
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6. Frank
How come no one in the media is asking, why the hell are we in Iraq? And why the hell is this moronic, clueless, imbecile, gw bush allowed to get away with all that he has?
Failure=911, No Wmd's, Katrina, now domestic wiretapping.
HMMMMMMMMM?
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 07:55 AM
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7. You know, maybe they should stop listening in on Americans'
phone conversations and start listening in on the Iraqi phone conversations, since this misAdministration keeps saying that "we're fighting them over there so we don't have to fight them over here . . ."
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 08:52 AM
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9. Of course they did
and many, many other slimy things. Thats why they feared going to a court.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 09:07 AM
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10. It IS an obvious question that needs to be asked
And the administration response would be some variation on "That kind of scurrilous and irresponsible question is beneath the dignity of the office of the president to have to answer, and we'll be contacting your bosses about your impertinence in asking such a baseless question, the kind that only offers aid and comfort to the enemies of the United States, enemies that President Bush has sworn to protect the people from."

In other words, the standard non-denial denial.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 09:19 AM
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11. But you forget, accountability is over now! W said:
"We had an accountability moment, and that's called the 2004 elections,"

Of course, like always in his life, a bit of protection was used, but...he's been cleared!
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Dongfang Hong Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 12:10 PM
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13. Because the obvious response is going to be,
"That's an utterly ridiculous assertion. This program was only used on international calls involving people with known links to al-Qaida." If you only get called for one question, why waste it on one with an obvious answer, especially since few believe it's even a possibility? Might as well ask him, "Mr. Bush, is Laura actually a man in disguise?"
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 12:23 PM
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15. Because a Democrat has to bring it up first.
Edited on Tue Jan-03-06 12:23 PM by ieoeja
Then the press prefaces the question with: "the Democratic representative suggested you might have chosen to bypass the FISA court because you were illegally targetting members of the Kerry campaign."

LBJ understood this: "of course, he isn't f---ing pigs. But now we have him on camera denying f---ing pigs."

Republicans understand this. Look at the "scandal fatigue" under Clinton. There was exactly one arrest/conviction in Clinton's first year in office. And there was Lewinski. That's it. Exactly two "scandals". But the "fatigue" was real because he had to continually deny all the hare-brained accusations the Republicans could come up with.


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Strawman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 12:26 PM
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16. Scotty or Karl Rove might call up and yell at them then
Edited on Tue Jan-03-06 12:26 PM by Strawman
They might lose precious access. Not a smart move for an ambitious Washington reporter.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 12:50 PM
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17. Why isn't John Kerry (or any other member of Congress) asking it?
:shrug:
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JPZenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 12:55 PM
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18. "Were all of the wiretaps linked to Al Queda?
The Kerry question is too limited. I'd like to see a question asked: "Did all of the unauthorized wiretaps and intercepts involve a link to Al Queda?"

Most Americans would be willing to forgive Bush if all of the wiretaps really did involve "phone calls from Al Queda," as Bush said. But if that was the case, it would have been easy to obtain court approval for those intercepts. Remember, the law already allows retroactive approvals by a judge when there is an emergency.

Of course, the Administration will refuse to answer.
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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 01:28 PM
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21. It doesn't matter if they refuse to answer
I want the question asked to the Bush people. Just ASKED, and in a public forum. It's the same question that millions of us in this country are asking. "Were political adversaries of Mr. Bush (regardless of their supposed "terrorist" connections) spied on?"

Even if the Bush people lie or stonewall about it, their answer would (and will) hang them later. Because you know as well as I do that Bush spied on anyone and everyone who poses a "threat" to his position as King of the United States, and that's really all there is to it.

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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 12:57 PM
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19. (stone wall going up)
What, what was that? What did you say?
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 01:04 PM
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20. It was asked of Kerry on 12/21/05 on the Ed Schultz Show
You can hear the answer for yourself here: http://www.wegoted.com/dailyAudio/index.asp

(12/21/2005) Senator John Kerry (D-MA) is very concerned about the White House spying on Americans and his thoughts on a busy day in Washington Play Clip

Sen. John Kerry (D-MA) visits with Ed about a busy day in Washington, ranging from preserving the rules of the Senate by keeping ANWR out of the Defense Bill, extending the Patriot Act, FISA, and protecting the integrity of your vote. You don't want to miss the biggest interview in America today. Does Sen. Kerry think his campaign was tapped? Does he think there were voting irregularities? What did he tell Ed? Your source for audio euphoria.
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numnuts Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 02:59 PM
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23. No I didn't need to
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