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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 10:41 AM
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My letter to the NSA
Here's an e-mail I just sent the NSA. I'm also posting it here. Let's see what they respond in light of this scandal involving them and the President engaging in illegal acts.

If I receive a response, I will let everyone know. This issue terrifies me. This country is becoming a sort of Nazi Germany.
________________________________________

nsapao@nsa.gov

Dear Sir/Madam:

In light of the recent admission by the President that he has illegally approved the NSA to engage in illegal spying upon ordinary American citizens without a proper warrant, my question is, has the NSA made public a list of all those organizations and citizens it has been illegally wiretapping and illegally listening to without a proper warrant? If so, please provide information as to how this information may be obtained, whether it can be requested via mail, or if it is available online.

Thank you.

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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 10:44 AM
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1. I'd guess an FOIA request...
...and I don't know what that involves. And, they'd probably ignore the request, toss you in prison for asking, or send you a canned 'form' letter telling you, basically, to go f*ck yourself, or some combination of the aforementioned.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 10:47 AM
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3. Well, if they decide to come clean about their illegal activities...
Maybe they will post whom they have been illegally spying upon.

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bearfan454 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 11:25 AM
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8. They are spying on the people that are telling the truth
about this crooked immoral law breaking administration we have.
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Pam-Moby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 10:44 AM
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2. What a wonderful idea. Please let us know what you find out. n/t
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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 10:48 AM
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4. You're on a list now.
Troublemaker:nopity:
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 10:51 AM
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5. We're all on a list.
As I understand it, they have charity groups on lists. Anyone that is doing any kind of charitable work, and is not a right wing extremist, is probably being watched, listened to, Internet-tapped, everything. Terrifying, what this country has become under Bush.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 04:44 PM
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10. with a name line Ibarruri, you are definitely on a list somewhere
They will match you to Dolores Ibarruri, La Pasionaria, who opposed Franco's Fascist regime and was one of the founders of the Communist Party of Spain.

I think you need to submit a FOIA to NSA.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 04:55 PM
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11. I know. Plus I belong to the Unitarian Universalist Church
Which I'm sure is also watched, observed, scrutinized, wiretapped, listened to, etc. This country is turning into a Nazi Germany where freedoms are non-existent, and only the extremist right wing run the place. If we don't stop this now, there will be little future for this nation's children.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 05:05 PM
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12. You are on the terrorist list!!!!!!
That's okay, you are in good company. The reason many people resist the comparisons of Bush to Hitler is that they don't know history. Hitler did not become Chancellor in 1933 by announcing he was going to murder all the Jews, Roma, gays, and by declaring his intentions to invade his neighbors.

Look at what we have come to accept thus far: wars of aggression, infringement on civil liberties, concentration camps, torture, indefinite detentions, etc.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 05:17 PM
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13. Exactly right!
Hitler didn't start out killing millions. It was a very gradual process of removing freedoms. That's what's happening here.
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Pam-Moby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 04:35 PM
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9. Oh ha ha
:applause:
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hwmnbn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 11:11 AM
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6. They probably watched....
as you typed it. :rofl:

They probably have have some sort of ultra-stealth keyboard tracker program.

.....only to be used against Al Qaeda terrorists, that is... :sarcasm:
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 11:21 AM
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7. ACLU... on it 12/21/05
http://www.aclu.org/safefree/general/23195prs20051221.html

ACLU Calls on Gonzales to Appoint Special Counsel on NSA Domestic Spying; Investigation of Violations of Law Must Be Independent, Free of Political Pressure (12/21/2005)


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Contact: Media@dcaclu.org


WASHINGTON - In a formal request to Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, the American Civil Liberties Union today called for the immediate appointment of an outside special counsel to investigate and prosecute any criminal acts and violations of laws as a result of the National Security Agency’s surveillance of domestic targets as authorized by President Bush.


"President Bush’s disregard and disrespect for the Constitution are evident, but in America, we are all bound by the rule of law," said Anthony D. Romero, ACLU Executive Director. "The president took an oath to ‘preserve, protect and defend the constitution of the United States.’ He cannot use a claim of seeking to preserve our nation to undermine the rules that serve as our foundation. The Attorney General, who may have been involved with the formulation of this policy, must appoint an outside special counsel to let justice be served."
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