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nickshepDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 04:20 PM
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Oklahoma Lawmaker Proposes 'Unborn Child Ultrasound Imaging Act'
Edited on Sun Dec-18-05 04:27 PM by nickshepDEM
Lawmaker to file bill requiring ultrasound before abortions

OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) -- Legislation that would require abortion clinics to offer ultrasound scans to women seeking an abortion is being drafted by a state lawmaker.
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"Many post-abortive women say viewing the ultrasound prior to the abortion would have changed their mind regarding the procedure because an ultrasound brings about the realization that she is carrying a life inside of her," Littlefield said. Ultrasound procedures depict a continuous picture of a fetus on a monitor screen. In April, the Indiana Legislature required abortion providers to offer patients a chance to hear fetal heartbeats and see ultrasound images as part of that state's informed consent requirements, Calvey said.

Fream said the measure will require doctors to impose a procedure on women seeking an abortion in an attempt to influence their decision.
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Tony Lauinger, chairman of Oklahomans for Life, said it is important that woman who are considering an abortion be aware of the significance of her decision.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/O/OK_ABORTION_ULTRASOUND_OKOL-?SITE=VARIT&SECTION=US&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2005-12-15-17-23-54

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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 04:22 PM
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1. Aren't they done as part of the prep? Or do these ghouls want
the doctor to shove the image in the woman's face? :shrug:
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nickshepDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 04:23 PM
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2. I think they're going for the shove the image in the face option.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 04:49 PM
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10. It doesn't sound like it.
'The proposed "Unborn Child Ultrasound Imaging Act" would require abortion clinics to provide women the chance to view an ultrasound 24 hours prior to an abortion, Calvey said.'

Being 'in your face' with "a chance" is rather a strange idea. "I demand that you have a chance to see this" is simply ill-formed. I imagine most providers wouldn't be pushy, but would make sure the women knew they had the option.

I don't know how to understand the 24-hours requirement. Does it mean at least 24 hours, exactly 24 hours, or within 24 hours of having the abortion? The first two would be a burden on the woman; the last option could happen during prep, and might be a burden on the clinic, if they don't have ultrasound equipment.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 04:26 PM
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6. The latter, of course
blown up 100 times life size. Of course, that a four to six week fetus resembles a cashew nut more than it does a human being is lost on these loons.

When are these assholes gonna realize that she already knows if she doesn't get an abortion, she's gonna give birth to a baby 8 months or so down the line, that it's what she wants to avoid? Just what the HELL are these nitwits trying to prove? That they're bullies? Hell, we already know that.

All they'll do is get some poor, vulnerable child to give birth and throw the baby into a dumpster. I guess that's what they really want. Then they'll really get to be censorious!
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 04:25 PM
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3. Are the legislators offering to pay for such ultrasounds?
Or is this just another unfunded mandate, where costs for them are shoveled down to consumers?
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nickshepDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 04:25 PM
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4. I believe the state foots the bill.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 05:22 PM
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12. $$ for that might do more good providing some health care for kids
who are real and need help.

Whack jobs love & care about children right up to their birth, then they hand them a bill for their share of the ever incresing national debt and tell them they are on their own.
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 04:25 PM
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5. This impinges on women's rights. It would not stand.
There is no legitimate state purpose or medical reason for this legislation, other than to intimidate women in the exercise of their Constitutional right to make that decision free of state interference (absent viability, etc., under Roe). What 1984 bullshit: "We believe these decisions are a matter of personal responsibility, and we trust Oklahoma women to make responsible decisions in their own lives," Fream said.
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yy4me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 04:33 PM
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7. Some men should wake up and realize that they do not control
nor do they have the right to control decisions made by women regarding reproductive rights. Not only is this proposal ridiculous, it is an infringement upon the rights of women. No-one should be made to do such a humiliating and degrading procedure. This man is way off base. Abortion decisions are never made lightly and this personal decision should not be regulated in this way or in any way.
Who the heck does this man think he is? This proposal is an insult!
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 04:38 PM
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8. what a fantastic use of medical resources!
:eyes:
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 04:38 PM
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9. Why notjust make women wear their dead fetuses on a chain?
Like the scarlet letter?

I know: let's show them a video of an asshole boyfriend, gunnin the car as he tears away in his couped up camaro? Or a rapist? Or a live birth to an underage child? Or whatever's appropriate?
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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 05:01 PM
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11. Crippled Kitten Syndrome (CKS)
....most people,even those not,shall we say,hormonally impaired will respond to the excess product of a kitten litter.....the one born small and sick, and in most cases not viable.In some cases it can indeed be saved,by extraordinary devotion and care,by an excess of expense and work and undue allocation of resources.Yet each "survival" proves only it can be done-not that it should have been....To show this to each woman under the influence of a flood of "nurturing" hormones is an insult-her brain has already taken her to what is hoped to be a rational decision.To send her back into the sway of a non-rational decision is unfair..
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