Ben Stein: "Bush will go down in history as a great peacemaker"

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

http://mediamatters.org/items/200512160009

Host Neil Cavuto introduced the panel discussion by asking, "So, given the positive turnout in Iraq, will it be a positive for our U.S. markets and will it help finally take the Dow back above 11,000?" He added, "We didn't quite see it today, but it's sort of like Waiting for Godot. Eventually it will happen." In the play, Godot never actually shows up, though given that the Dow is currently at 10,878.16 -- and closed at 10,883.51 the day before the elections -- "eventually" could come very soon.

From the December 15 edition of Fox News' Your World with Neil Cavuto:

CAVUTO: So, given the positive turnout in Iraq, will it be a positive for our U.S. markets and will it help to finally take the Dow back above 11,000? We didn't quite see it today, but it's sort of like waiting for Godot. Eventually it'll happen.

...

CAVUTO: Ben Stein, Ben Stein? What say you?

STEIN: I think it's an incredible plus for Mr. Bush. I think Mr. Bush is going to go down in history as one of the great peacemakers and democracy-builders in the history of the world. I think his reputation is going to grow by leaps and bounds after this. I think it's good for the market in the short run, although the market didn't do much about it today, as we know. But let's say it saves us 100 or $200 billion over the next couple of years as troop withdrawals start. That's a small amount in the context of the budget. This market -- the budget and the GDP -- this market is looking for an end to the Fed march towards higher interest rates, and that's got to happen. This just makes no sense for the Fed to keep raising interest rates. And it's looking for a continued drumbeat of higher corporate earnings, and those I think we're going to see. Dow 11,000, it seems to me, is virtually a certainty barring a new terrorist attack, but alas, the election and democracy didn't make it happen.

[win_in_06]

1. "Anyone? Buehler? Anyone?"

[PurpleChez]

3. Bwah-HA!

I used to love this man. So what if he worked for Nixon? But he's shown himself to be just one more slavish tool of *. How could he say those things and not vomit?

[chelsea0011]

9. LOL. Just watched it the other night. Still great after all these years.

[chelsea0011]

10. He invaded Iraq and slaughtered 30,000, give or take

That doesn't sound like peacemaker to me, but what do I know.

[Name removed]

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[speedoo]

14. Sorry, but I dislike that flick intensely.

I particularly disliked Ferris' gawky pal.

And the whole situation... bunch of spoiled rich kids, just screwing off.

Bleccchh.

[chelsea0011]

19. Ouch! Can I change your mind? The gawky friend who has

everything except the love of his father and destroys the one thing his father valued the most in life, his car? Naw. It's more than rich kids screwing off.

[speedoo]

38. Disagree with you there too.

Cameron did not intentionally destroy the car. It was an accident, directly resulting from their screwing around. I don't think there was a point there to be missed.

[ghostsofgiants]

51. He did intentionally beat it up though.

It just happened to slip off the jack while he was kicking it.

[mwb970]

22. Hmm, I'm afraid you missed the point.

Although Bueller's name is in the title, it's really Cameron's movie. I've watched it many times and I am impressed with how subtle the story actually is, behind the hijinks. Try it again?

[win_in_06]

27. Along w/Fast Times at Ridgemont High

this movie can be called a "Teen Classic" as far as I'm concerned.

Charlie Sheen had a nice little role, too. 1986 was a good year for movies.

Boy, do we digress.

[speedoo]

39. I don't think of the two movies in the same way at all.

Ferris Buehler was a total waste of time for me.

Ridgemont High was indeed a teen classic. Funny, but with a message. And loaded with future stars. Sean Penn was unbelievable.

On edit: And besides, Ben Stein was NOT in Ridgemont High.

[win_in_06]

48. Like I said, we digress

but I compared the two movies as teen-genre classics, which they both are. Never said Stein was in Ridgemont.

[Skittles]

56. I agree with you speedoo

lord knows I am no prude but that movie was more annoying than funny

[gulfcoastliberal]

37. Probably the smartest words that ever came out of his mouth. NT

[GreenPartyVoter]

41. My cheerleaders are mad at me because I have them dancing to Yello's

"Oh Yeah". They think it's the most god-awful geeky song. :P

[Zodiak]

2. If a nobody like Stein opens his mouth

can we hear it over the tree falling in a forest across the world?

No?

Then who cares?

[NoFederales]

4. Ben Stein--BS--says it all, WOW

NoFederales
:sarcasm:

[MrBenchley]

5. And Ben Stein is another Elvis....

[flordehinojos]

6. Alzheimer's Disease affecting Ben Stein's brain?

or, just plain ole delusional disorder?

Could he had meant Bush maybe, may be rememberes as one of the greater blood and oil coin getters?

or perhaps Ben Stein, he just needs a lense adjustment.

[tom swift]

7. Ben Stein

Ask yourself why none of these people talk about the candidates or parties running for election in Iraq. While they bleat that the Iraqis are voting,and they are,it matters who they vote for. Since the 2 dominant Shiite parties in the Iraqi Alliance are Iranian backed, and one,Dawa,was responsible for the Beirut bombing in 1983,and the other SCIRI,was founded by Khomeini, that may explain it.

[tavalon]

8. What planet does he live on?

Bush will go down as one of the worst Presidents ever. I hope we don't go down with him.

[Mad_Dem_X]

60. The same planet all the * fans are from

Planet Denial. I can't believe, after all this time and everything this administration has done, there are *still* folks who support them! :wtf:

[WLKjr]

11. Is this the same Ben Stien that was a Nixon speach writer?

Crooks surrouned by Crooks?

[BlueEyedSon]

12. Ben Stein will go down in history as a fucking idiot.

[pretzel4gore]

15. well said...

stein's one of them, in spades. michael ledeen says 'the future will sing songs of praise to us' for advancing america's interest (i guess) ...stein and ledeen and perle (who's scared outta his wits, knows it's gonna end badly, MUST end badly:)) and so many others. '5 in the noggin' is the best idea to deal with them as john fox gibson says

[Nimrod2005]

13. Stein will go down in history as a dumb bastard!!!

[guidod]

26. Is that worse than

a vomit spewing low life fucking idiot?

[speedoo]

16. Ben Stein's 15 minutes were over decades ago.

And he won't even go down in history.

Fucking dickhead, who pretends to be smart.

[Vinca]

17. And Ben Stein is going to go down in history as a great actor.

I don't think so. Bush will be known as the "great idiot" and Stein will be known as a defunct game show host.

[TheCowsCameHome]

18. Is he a dork,or what? ( He got the first four words correct, anyway.)

He sounds as goofy as he looks.

[Neil Lisst]

20. Ben Stein will go down as the guy who said BUELLER.

f'in Nixon speech writer.

[Dogmudgeon]

21. Ben Stein -- Comedian extraordinaire!

Lemme tell ya, that boy sure can crack up an audience! He's got the funny!

Chapelle, Rajskub, Oswalt, Silverman, Maron, and all the rest? They ain't got nothin' on the man.

--p!

[MindPilot]

33. Did you forget the :sarcasm:?

Frankly I'm not really in a position to judge Stein's comedic ability since I can't take his voice long enough to get to a punchline. Granted, some of Nixon's speeches were pretty funny...you know the ones about getting out of Vietnam and stopping the commies and stuff.

[Dogmudgeon]

34. Half and half

Yes, I was being sarcastic, but Stein is actually pretty good at deadpan humor. His writing is quite lively, as well, the opposite of his public persona. AFAIK, he was not the major Nixon speechwriter, and most of Nixon's speeches were pretty wooden and adjective-heavy.

Of course, Stein's gone back to being a flat-out tool after a long period of semi-independence in spite of being a Republican. But the brain is a tender thing. Let's hope it doesn't take too much chemo or surgery to correct that. :)

--p!

[Telly Savalas]

40. His humor is so deadpan, ya almost gotta wonder

if the above statement wasn't just an example of his highly refined sense of irony.

[tanyev]

23. Spew alert!

First there was the thread about Jean Schmidt claiming she was a hottie, and now Ben Stein hailing Dumbya as a peacemaker. Good thing I already finished my coffee.

[win_in_06]

28. Who could possibly consider Jean Schmidt to be a hottie?

Link please. I'd like to read this thread.

[tanyev]

29. Voila.

Jean Schmidt: "They think I'm a hottie!"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5618731

[win_in_06]

35. Can't believe it. All I can say is that men are like dogs sometimes.

Desperate.

[MindPilot]

32. possibly the same people who consider Bush a peacmaker n/t

[ComerPerro]

24. Ban Stein will go down in history as a patehtic douchebag

and a Nixon-era criminal...

[erpowers]

25. That Man is Crazy

That man is crazier than I thought he was. This is the same guy, although he did not support Schwarzenegger, supported the recall of Gray Davis. Someone tell me where Bush has made peace in the world. Even Tom Brokaw at one point displayed the differences between the Clinton Presidency during 2000 and the hope we had in going into the new millennium and how that hope had been dashed after Bush got into office. Brokaw even asked if we could sue for breach of contract.

At the end of one of his broadcasts on the Nightly news Brokaw pointed out that in 2000 there was peace around the world and the economy was doing well. He went on to say that many people looked forward to the new millennium as a time of peace and prosperity. Then came 2001 and all that changed we were now at war and the economy had tanked and was trying to recover. Finally, Brokaw asked "Can we sue for breach of contract".

It is Clinton who will go down as a peace president. He was the one who at least tried to bring about peace in many places around the world. It was Clinton who tried to make the world a better place.

[DrDan]

30. and Ben - former Nixon speech writer

will do down as an idiot

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

31. No, but Cheney will go down in history as a walking pacemaker

who should retired years ago. Instead of making us miserable while he jerks off with his Halliburton profits.

[Blue_Roses]

36. Ben Stein

:puke:

what a delusional little man

[zulchzulu]

42. Ben Stein is an absolute clueless swine

He's only good for voiceovers for intellectually challenged bugs.

[Auntie Bush]

44. I like that. Stein is a swine!

[Rocknrule]

43. Yea, and Fred Phelps will go down in history as a gay rights champion

This man HATES peace. He isn't happy unless he's destroying lives and families. I wish I could figure out what planet these freaks live on so they could go back to it.

[mitchum]

45. Ben Stein will go down on Bush...

ooops...what do I mean "will"?

[Starbucks Anarchist]

46. How could someone so smart also be so stupid?

[KitchenWitch]

50. No kidding

:shrug:

[Nutmegger]

47. Can't he see...

:wtf:

[KitchenWitch]

49. I wish Ben Stein would share with the rest of us

whatever he is smoking...That has got to be some good ganja!

[bridgit]

52. now that america has 'finally entered the terrorist neighborhood'...

with our own blood & treasure, you hear very little from the likes of benjamin netanyahu, the way he did after 9-11, trying to justify our vengeance from afar while juxtaposing per capita jewish deaths to american deaths (always an eye for an eye ratio somewhere abouts) vis-a-vis terrorist attacks...frum & stein are clearly semanticists, further justifying that continued effort imo talking up their one boy that would step off the end of a pier if only because he thinks he is right

[Tsiyu]

53. Did you say piecemaker?

Yeah, he's blown Iraq to pieces,
ignored the Gulf Coast of America to pieces,
let the World Trade Center explode in pieces,
left the Constitution in pieces
and all of his friends got thirty pieces of silver...

[EstimatedProphet]

54. Remind me to go on "Win Ben Stein's Money"

If that's as smart as he is, it should be an easy 5 grand.

[Skittles]

55. Skittles: "Ben Stein will go down in history as a great Bush Whore"

yes INDEED

[PatriotGames]

57. I think Ben Stein is a paid shill. n/t

[shawn703]

59. The dumbest genius in history n/t