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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 06:45 AM
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Why is everyone so anxious to have Fitz indict Rove "for Christmas"?
I haven't seen a single person espouse my point of view about this, that being that this investigation should drag out for about the next eight months with huge blogosphere speculation and then with increasing (albeit grudging) mainstream coverage and speculation culminating in many indictments in say, September. Wait, the culmination would actually be taking back the House and Senate in the midterms which, with the exception of that nasty Diebold problem would happen handily following such a timely set of indictments.

See, it is my opinion that the American public is not so good on the longterm memory thing. You know, kind of like the outrage expressed over that hurricane. What was its name? Katherine, Katy, something.........
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Road Scholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 06:50 AM
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1. We just want him to have a Merry Christmas!! nt
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 06:58 AM
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3. I want him to have a miserable New Year
followed by eight months of hell, followed by a forced resignation and getting to see us take back our country while he fights prison time. I want him to fail at that too.
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WLKjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 06:57 AM
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2. well as for the outrage part
Have you talked to anyone on the street about it? If you have you should hear some angry comments about the response and how those people are still strung out to dry.....I know I have, everytime it gets brought up. I got an earfull just last week from a lady I worked with who sends stuff there everyweek along with about a group of 30 other women. They started this organization that has some wealthy hookups (one of her good friends in TX)that puts some money into it while they work out the logistics. See specializes in helping reunite familes mostly she said, but sends a lot of what is needed to families she gets lists for, sometimes 100's of people at a time.


She and I talked about itand I listend to her throw a fit about the whole situation for over an hour. Somewhere in the mix Iraq got brought up, and wow, was that a show stopper right there. She then went on to say that she never votes now becuase all the people (local, state, federal govt.) do is lie lie lie and not thier job job job.


I think what should happend is this be made into a debate issue in the upcomming elections. Tax money to Iraq, but not Home.

(she liked that analogy and said it would be a good point to bring up and bring up loudly!)
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 07:01 AM
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4. Because they don't think Mom's getting them an X-box
You're absolutely right...Xmas is the worst time for such a thing to happen. Remember, one reason Poppa Bush got away with the Iran-Contra pardons is that he did it right around Xmas....when people are focussed on other things than news.
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win_in_06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 07:02 AM
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5. Was Diebold in effect in VA, NJ or CA during the last set of elections?
We won all three in a big way.

I thought we had gotten past that little problem, or perceived problem?
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 07:07 AM
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6. Is Diebold gone from the national stage?
Then no, we haven't gotten past that little problem and it isn't a peceived problem.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 07:13 AM
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7. Indictments
take the secrecy out of the grand jury hearings. Trials or pleas follow indictments. These get far more coverage than the secret grand jury investigations.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 07:23 AM
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8. That's one good argument for having it happen sooner rather than later
but I think the coverage of Scooter's indictment had it occurred closer to the midterms would have helped more. I'm also concerned that the wheels of justice (except for Tom "I buy retired judges" Delay(R) shit creek) turn much too slowly for the trials to have any impact on the elections. I could be wrong. I want to be wrong.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 09:19 AM
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18. I think that
if Scooter's trial is happening in the late spring and early summer, you will be pleasantly surprised at how it plays in the mid-term elections. One thing to keep in mind is that Fitzgerald has a reservoir of information that will become public during the trial. Right now, the media has only covered the surface. Things that will be made public in the months ahead will surprise most of the American public. None of it will help any candidate who wants to snuggle up to the administration.

I do not see it in the context of if you are "wrong" .... but I will say that the chances are that you will be very happy indeed, as the case(s) move forward.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 07:29 AM
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9. Indict him now so we can all have a merry Christmas present
Then the court proceedings should be drug out over the next summer and keep the whole affair in the public eye until next November, just to remind them of what has happened.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 07:33 AM
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10. Do you think the proceedings will start that soon?
Have Scooter's started yet? He was indicted about six weeks ago, right?
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 07:39 AM
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11. That is just it, the proceedings would at least be in the news
and every time there was a delay or movement on the case it would make news. Rove is bu$h's no1 and that would be much bigger that Mr Potters scooter.
Maybe, Just maybe the proceedings would hit the courts about August.
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 07:47 AM
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12. Because Team Bush strives to end the year UP.
Dems cannot do much in the holidays to call out the president. About next Thursday, the White House will have about ten days to show parties, and photo ops, and joyous settings.

ALL IS WELL is the implicit message.

If Rove gets indicted next week, that will be the hot topic for the next ten days.

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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 07:48 AM
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13. It is just on of these things, the sooner the better?
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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 07:50 AM
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14. Rove now, we will save Delay for Q1, 2006 and Frist for Q2 2006, and
Abramoff for the midterm elections period.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 07:57 AM
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15. because we want SO MANY of these guys indicted
that Rove will be just the start of a long season of falling felons.
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Autumn Colors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 08:16 AM
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16. This may be warped on my part
But for Rove to be indicted while Jon Stewart and The Daily Show is in reruns for the holidays would be a crime (oh, pardon the pun).

I want to see Jon do the happy dance on the night the indictment comes down, not when it's two-week-old news.

hehehe
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Mend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 09:05 AM
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17. It will be our only gift: so far all we have spent for Christmas
is about $3 for cards on sale at a Hospice resale shop and some stamps. We are not supporting the military-industrial complex until the Democats come back into power and end the war.
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