Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

No elections will be credible while occupation continues

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 12:40 PM
Original message
No elections will be credible while occupation continues
Edited on Fri Dec-16-05 12:43 PM by donsu
http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,1667430,00.html


Iraq's current political process will not solve the crisis. Only a US and British pullout and a UN sponsored poll can do that


-long snip-

For the political process to succeed it must proceed in a healthy environment which will take shape only when occupation comes to an end. The solution to the Iraqi problem, in the view of the Association of Muslim Scholars, is simple and logical: it is one that fully complies with international legality and would serve to reinforce it; that would put an end to the daily haemorrhage of Iraqi blood; that would lay the foundations for a state of law that protects the rights of all its citizens and seeks to secure basic human dignity; that provides an alternative to occupation, as explained in the memorandum we submitted to the United Nations and the Arab League.

This solution must be based, first, on an announcement by the US and its allies of a timetable for withdrawing their troops. Second, it would entail replacing the occupation forces with a UN force whose main task would be to fill the security void. This would be followed, thirdly, by the formation of an interim Iraqi government for six months under the supervision of the UN in order to conduct genuine parliamentary elections in which all parts of the Iraqi population would take part. Finally, the duly elected Iraqi government would take charge of the task of rebuilding the country's civil and military institutions.

Nothing will work in Iraq unless the root of the problem is addressed: the occupation must end.
----------------------------

I agree
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
johnnyburma Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 01:01 PM
Response to Original message
1. Just Curious as to Which Election You'd Consider More Credible
The estimated 80% turnout of eligible voters yesterday or the 30% that turned out in the Venezualan election?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 01:06 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. we are not occupying Venezuala - can't compare the two
nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 02:04 PM
Response to Reply #1
4. Where are you getting your figures?
And do you have a problem with the current Venezuela government?

Because I don't. Being an American, for my entire life, I have been schooled that all socialism, Marxism, communism, etc., etc., etc., is bad and evil and death-producing and horrible.

I have heard it over and over and over and over and over.

I look at Hugo Chavez. I look at your president, George W. Bush.

Who am I going to believe--American propaganda, or "my own lying eyes"?

In case you haven't noticed, the U.S. has been taken over. We are now ruled by the fifth column--the neocons, which republicans in the U.S. have, by their support, placed in power. Thanks a whole lot, republicans. (Full disclosure: I voted with them in 2000. I didn't know.)

So I think it's time to stop wringing our hands about how bad communism or socialism or Marxism or Chavez is. What we have is a thousand times worse.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 01:59 PM
Response to Original message
3. Oh--you were talking about Iraq.
I thought you were talking about how no U.S. elections will be credible as long as the repukelican occupation continues. :)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sat May 04th 2024, 05:22 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC