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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 01:15 PM
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A New Ultra-Secret Government Agency (is being formed)

http://www.ombwatch.org/article/articleview/3195/1/404


Legislation is moving in the Senate to create a new government agency to combat bioterrorism that will operate, unlike any other agency before it, under blanket secrecy protection.

Sen. Richard Burr (R-NC) has introduced the Biodefense and Pandemic Vaccine and Drug Development Act of 2005, S1873, that would create a new agency in the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) to research and develop strategies to combat bioterrorism and natural diseases. While Congress has created several agencies recently in response to homeland security concerns, most notably the Department of Homeland Security, Burr proposes for the first time ever to completely exempt this new agency from all open government laws. The legislation has already passed out of the Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions and is now before the full Senate.

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Mark Tapscott at the Heritage Foundation writes that "BARDA will essentially be accountable to nobody and can operate without having to worry about troublesome interference from courts or private citizens like you and me."

This move to restrict the reach of FOIA appears in stark contrast to the recent Senate vote to strengthen open government. Sens. John Cornyn (R-TX) and Patrick Leahy (D-VT) co-sponsored FOIA reform legislation, passed by the Senate in June, that "will bring additional sunshine to the federal legislative process, and was another step toward strengthening the Freedom of Information Act."
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just what we need, another secret agency. how many does that make now? I've lost count.

the madness goes on and on and on
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Angry Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 01:25 PM
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1. FASCISM ALERT! KnR
This agency is VERY bad news.

They've been setting us up with this bird flu/health emergency/martial law thing since 9/11 and particularly since Katrina! How do we STOP this?

Once this is in place, what's to stop the Bushies from letting loose a bug (odorless, invisible, so it's great to scare people with - oh, it's there, you just can't seeit!) under the guise that it was and then declaring martial law and a state of emergency (i.e., no elections, Bush stays in office)?

I have a recent BUNCH of articles on the Bushie push for martial law and military takeover of American soil so, no, I will not wear the tinfoil hat!

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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 01:40 PM
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3. Fuck tinfoil
Conspirasy theories and the FEAR of them as a social humiliation game has rendered the public too scared of humuliation to ask controversial questions investigate and share results and be HONEST about what they see happening themmselves for being labeled by those playing make believe in denial as"kooks".What a way to shut down real investigateve thinking and limit a persons spoken honesty about the situation they see.

Oooh don't connect the obvious because a stupid person in denial who gets upset at what is happening unnder thier own nose might feel incompetant and label you a kook to shut you up to maintain the status quo..


FEAR of conspirasy theorosts has made people all or nothing, so it has been a great psychological tool of fascists to make any discussion of the subtle and corrupted forces undermining our government taboo.
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 03:20 AM
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13. Conspiracy theory and fascism
You know, one of the most interesting things I learned last year was how profoundly shaped Hitler was by Henry Ford's commentary on the protocols of the learned elders of zion, here:
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/intern_jew.htm
The interesting part is most illuminati type conspiracy theories take the form of what was said in the protocols, it was the original conspiracy theory, created (I think) by pre soviet russian intelligence. Hitler was in fact a conspiracy theorist.
This is not to deride people who are labelled that today, but rather to emphasize the weight and seriousness of what people brush off because it makes them uncomfortable. Conspiracy theories grow in darkness. The darkness of a cultural separation between jews and anglos in germany, the darkness of the secrecy created by the Bush administration. You've got to shine the light on them or they will flourish in the darkness like mushrooms, and some are will be in fact very deadly.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 02:55 PM
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7. I agree with you Angry Girl and would also like to know what we
can do.
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 08:03 PM
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11. Don't laws have to be constitutional anymore?
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RazzleDazzle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 09:14 PM
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12. You're right. It's very, very bad news.
I don't know that we can stop it.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 01:34 PM
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2. with"tort" reform
They will not only be unaccountable,but un-sue able if they ever become accountable. This will be bUsh's assassins by illness.

They truly are sociopath ghouls in the WH.

What better way to stop an uprising of the rabble and kill solidarity among us then to spread a little disease around and make people too scared to go out into the streets to fight these fascist pigs with their long distance tazers and microwave people cookers, These pigs are crashing the economy, dismantling the government shredding the social safety net,robbing the treasury,killing citizens with"private" armies for rich people and soon will be killing off the undesirables and confiscating anyones land they want.

It's only a matter of time for this trap the rich and inhuman have been crafting for decades is sprung and they have their last hurrah as they kill us,forcer, abuse,threaten us or scare us into slavery and submission..
To these thugs in power the CEO and rich man and official we are"inferior".
So they can justify any atrocity that fancies them we are not as elite as they in their sick bubble bully minds.I hate the parasitic rich.They have bought our government and are seeking to OWN the world.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 01:41 PM
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4. they can use the people that prepared the anthr*x attacks on Dems a few
years ago.
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liam_laddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 02:12 PM
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5. dangerous waters...
We can only hope (or pray) that principled, moral, courageous people
in the Armed Forces would not allow this to happen. I can imagine
this...the military would uphold the Bill of Rights, not the criminal crowd
in the WH.
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 02:54 PM
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6. NSA's budget is 10 times that of the CIA....well, as far as they admit.
America is done.
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demigoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 03:02 PM
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8. we should have seen this coming. Antrax attacks and bird flu
fake scare. Have you noticed the movies about smallpox plagues and stuff like that. Seems as if they are trying to make us all susceptible to some kind of emergency that would scare us silly and put us all under martial law.I do not believe in bird flu but I do think they like to have all those millions to spend as they please. Probably building secret bunkers for the day they take over.
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wiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 05:38 PM
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9. FEMA?
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 05:42 PM
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10. *Another* secret agency? Does that qualify as news anymore?
"Republicans: the Party of Shadow Government"

May as well make it their official motto.
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ngGale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 04:33 AM
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14. For cripes sake....another secret agency!
Mark Tapscott at the Heritage Foundation writes that "BARDA will essentially be accountable to nobody and can operate without having to worry about troublesome interference from courts or private citizens like you and me."

Much too troublesome for us to know the 'real' truth.:scared:
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