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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 07:53 AM
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Bob Barr in a Tin Foil Hat; Conservatives are getting it.
Bob Barr is not one would consider a paragon of liberal virtue, but I think the real Conservatives are finally starting to get it.





Republican Congressman Says Totalitarian Regime a Danger
Bob Barr says military dictatorship close

By Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones
Tue, 2005-12-13

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/5573

Former Republican Congressman and CIA official Bob Barr says that there is a danger recent developments describe a trend of America slipping into a totalitarian society and that the Bush administration are doing everything in their power to see that this happens.

During a radio interview with host Alex Jones, Barr outlined where the country is heading.

"Basically, as long as you smile when you demand to see somebody's ID at gunpoint sitting on a bus I guess it's OK for the government, that's sort of the way they operate. It can be a totalitarian type regime."

"I think it's a real danger where we have the military becoming involved in all sorts of domestic matters and we have the government being able to seize very private personal records on people without any suspicion that they've done anything wrong. This is a dramatic turn of events that has accelerated greatly since 9/11."

Barr made comments very similar to those of current Republican Congressman Ron Paul in stating that natural disasters could be used by the government as a pretext to abolish posse comitatus.

"If we have the military involved whenever there's a windstorm, rain or tornado then what we are doing is that we are undermining the entire basis on what our constitutional representative democratic form of government was founded."

Barr said that legislation like the Patriot Act and its imminent re-authorization and expansion were more of a threat to the American way of life than any terrorist attack.

"Even when the leaders in Washington say we're not going to let the terrorists change our way of life, they are implementing policies that do precisely that."

Barr elaborated that the manipulation of fear was a key cornerstone in the government's coup de 'tat on constitutional liberties.

"They're using people's fear of another terrorist attack to move forward with various government programs that the government has wanted to gather and put in place for many many years. They're using the fear which is now driving public policy in this country which is very unfortunate and very un-American. Our leaders are shamelessly playing on that fear to implement and grab power."
Speaking on the topic of the second amendment, Barr said that his position as a board member on the NRA enabled him to judge the difference between how the Clinton and Bush administration's approached the issue. Barr echoed the sentiments of many other prominent conservatives in expressing his frustration about how the Bush administration was even more anti-second amendment than the Clinton office.

"It's my impression, to be honest with you, and this is confirmed by a lot of folks who are involved very heavily in regulatory matters involving firearms, that it is more difficult dealing with this administration than it was dealing with the prior administration."

Barr is currently working with the ACLU and others in trying to prevent the sunset clauses of the Patriot Act from being renewed, which could happen as early as this week.




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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 07:56 AM
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1. Barr is a cheese eating surrender monkey
He should go back to Franss. (freeper-style spelling included)
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 08:19 AM
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11. The freepers will listen to Barr
Edited on Thu Dec-15-05 08:20 AM by formercia
He's their kind of guy.

We can scream bloody murder and we have for years without much effect on the wingnuts,but like him or not, the freeps will listen to what he says.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 07:59 AM
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2. Ironic, isn't it
that Barr has to admit that something about the Clinton Administration was better than Bushco.
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 08:03 AM
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4. Let's not forget. He was the one who inadvertantly proved scrubbie
was lying about the trashing of the White House by the Clinton Admin. Okay, to be fair it was Fleischer that was doing the lying.
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 08:01 AM
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3. Another American Terrorist
I believe that's what shill o'lielly called people who worked with or were members of the ACLU -- America-hating terrorists. I guess that's what Barr is. I mean, who knows more about terror than shill o'lielly?
To be fair shill must be a horrorist. He siad he was going to bring horror to his enemies. A terrorist brings terror.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 08:03 AM
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5. But the message is still important (even tho DU has been on it since day 1
We should be grateful that even those with whom we disagree so broadly, agree with us on this issue
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 08:05 AM
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6. There's no tin foil hat required there.........
everything he says is true. Tin foil hats are reserved for those with wild, far fetched notions of dark, unimaginable enemies attempting to do us harm. BushCo. does not fall under that definition, they ARE dark, totally imaginable enemies trying to do us harm.
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 08:10 AM
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7. Barr's Comments About the NRA Are Telling. Looks Like We Should....
enlist the NRA in our plight against *Co. When will *Co start taking away the guns? Patriot Act IV?
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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 08:15 AM
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8. Bob Barr better hunt up the Democrats...
... by wingnut standards, he's no Republican.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 08:15 AM
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9. Anyone still going to support the democrats that support
the Patriot Act re-authorization?
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 08:17 AM
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10. Well, there's an ace to draw to.....
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NI4NI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 08:36 AM
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12. ACLU Repugs?
I wonder how many Repugs are ACLU members?
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 10:36 AM
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17. Few--repukes are easily led, and the propaganda has been
hammering on "the ACLU is an anti-American fifth column!" bullshit for DECADES now.

They eat that propaganda up with a supersize spoon.
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 08:36 AM
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13. is this the same Alex Jones that
did that excellent Loose Change 9/11 video?
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 08:49 AM
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14. formercia:
Please be aware that DU copyright rules require that excerpts of copyrighted material be limited to four paragraphs and must include a link to the original source.

You have one hour from the time of your original post to make changes.

In the future, please insure your posts adhere to this standard.

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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 09:17 AM
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16. unable to due to time expired
Lots of little paragraphs, so little time.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 08:59 AM
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15. I have long had the fear that with the growing powers of the executive
that we may look at a dictatorship in this country far sooner than most would think. We need to curtail the powers of the executive branch big time.
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 10:38 AM
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18. Yes, I noticed this about Barr
And Barr's wingnut credentials are impeccable: he was one of the impeachment House managers.

More cognitive dissonance for the red-state denizens of Dumfukistan, America. Wonder how they'll convince themselves that Bob Barr is just another "lib'rul terr'rist".
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