This one goes out to all the ladies...

[skipos]

I was looking at Virgina 05 election results and was a little surprised that, while Kaine received notable help from Clark and Warner, it was WOMEN who really put Kaine over the top. Even though Kaine won by 6%, Kilgore actually did a little better among men.

And in 1996...
Total vote: Clinton 49%, Dole 40%
Men chose: Clinton 43%, Dole 44%
Women chose: Clinton 54%, Dole 38%

Most people know that women prefer democrats and, as a man, I just wanted to say "thanks you" for voting so wisely.

:toast:

Also, I am curious to know how many women are here on DU?

[Jai4WKC08]

1. Why would you be surprised?

I'm sure Clark and Warner helped Kaine among male voters, isn't it possible, maybe even likely, that they helped him even more among women?

I'm a woman, and I'd estimate women easily make up more than 50% of Clark's base. I suspect that's true for Warner as well.

[skipos]

8. You are probably right.

I guess I was a little surprised that dem candidates can win by such large margins and still lose the male vote. Especially in the case of Clinton's solid defeat of Dole in the national popular vote.

[Jai4WKC08]

12. I think what it boils down to

Is that males (mostly white males, but not only), are so overwhelmingly Republican or Republican-leaning, that they will vote red unless the Repub candidate is a total dip-shit, and even then are more likely to stay home than to vote for the Democrat. Speaking about the aggregate, of course.

I remember a few years ago, there was a spurt of reporting in the media about white male rage, or backlash, or, well, a variety of words. But whatever you call it, and however fleeting it was addressed in the media, I believe it does exist. Fact is, white males held the upper hand for so long, to lose even a small part of it seems to many of them like they're the ones who are suddenly being oppressed. And not just the obvious sexist and/or racist types, but just the average Joe who doesn't really think about it much. He just knows something has changed and it ain't good for him, and his gut feel is that it ought to change back. Going back to "the good old days," however they are imagined to have been, is fundamentally what conservatism is all about. The specific issues, whether religious right looniness, or taxes, or military dominance in the world, etc ad nauseum, are pretty just the fall-out; at a deep psychological level, they just want to go back to when life was a John Wayne movie.

It's real hard for the Democratic party to reach these guys and still remain the least bit progressive. On the local level, maybe--a few DLC (and DLC-esque) congressmen can convince their white male constituents that they are different from the rest of those "damn libr'uls" in our party. In many states and districts, making that case is the ONLY way they can get elected, which is why I guess I make a certain allowance for the DLCers, even tho I don't agree with 'em on much and absolutely hate it when they try to divide the party. I live in Kansas, and it seems to me it's a lot easier to condemn the DLC when you live in safely blue state or district.

But I think there are also a relatively few Democrats who, by virtue of their background or demeanor or the way they frame issues or other factors (and probably a combination of all) who can reach a certain percentage of these guys without foresaking their progressive values. Especially the guys who don't pay much attention to specifics and just vote their gut. I think Wes Clark is one. I think Mark Warner may be, but I need to be more convinced of how deeply his progressive streak runs.

[catmother]

2. after the whole monica scandal i believe it was women who

supported bill clinton more than men. i know i did.

[abluelady]

3. We're Just Soooo Bright! :-)

[Adelante]

4. Hear me roar

:D

[ginnyinWI]

5. Women also voted more for Kerry than *

Females: 54% of the voters. Voted 51% Kerry, 48% Bush.

Breakdown by color: White women voted Bush 55%, Kerry 44%. Non-white women voted Kerry 75%, Bush 24%, 1% Nader. (These white women are the suburban "security moms", I think)

I'm a suburban white woman by the way, and I think Bush is the worst thing to happen to our national security in a long time!

[FreedomAngel82]

14. They did here too at least in a poll

Here in my town the day or two before the election a local news station (I believe the ABC affiliate) did a poll on women voters and Kerry won by two/three points. Plus, democratic men are just a lot more better looking. ;) And you know they really care about you. I'm not sure how the final vote turned out though with women. :shrug:

[Humor_In_Cuneiform]

6. Kick

:kick:

[SaveElmer]

7. Sorry if I am reading this wrong...

But it looks as though you have Clinton beating Dole in Virginia in 1996...

[skipos]

9. The Clinton Dole numbers are for national popular vote

Sorry. Too late for me to edit it now.

[SaveElmer]

10. No problem...

I figured that's what it was!

[Clarkansas]

11. Do women really outnumber the men by THAT much here?

Or maybe guys just don't want to click on a thread called "this one goes out to all the ladies." :shrug:

[Jai4WKC08]

13. Someone ought to run a poll with a different subject

Because I think you're right that a lot of the male DUers are skipping the thread.

Altho maybe the mods could just answer the question if they would count it up by profile--they probably have the data compiled already. And I can't see that gender would be a factor in who bothers to make a profile, so their figures should reflect the actual membership fairly accurately.