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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 11:41 AM
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I've Been Seeing Here On DU That Some Of You Have Bought......
into the 'gas price went down', 'gas prices are lower'.

When the oil execs went to the Hill to testify - we did see pricing come down a bit. But now that the pressure is off of them again the prices are slowly creeping back up. As for those of you that are happy that pricing is in the low $2.00 range ($1.98 - $2.19) need I remind you to look at the pricing a year or so ago.

They did it again to us. Raise the prices until we scream then lower the to much higher than they were a year ago and will deal with it.

Congress and the American people need to keep the pressure on the oil companies and *Co or we'll be seeing $3.00 pricing again by summer.









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1monster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 11:51 AM
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1. Under $2.00? Not here. The lowest I've seen gas was at $2.07 and that
is up to $2.09 as of yesterday. The average price is $2.10 to $2.15.

I noticed that everytime a new poll came out with Bush's numbers lower, the gas prices went down a penny or two.

Then A few days ago, a poll was published that had Bush's numbers up to 42% and gas started climbing up again...

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Maine-ah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 07:01 AM
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18. I've seen it at 2.27 here, the lowest I've seen was 2.17
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 11:52 AM
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2. "Down a bit" and "slowly creeping back up"??
Hmmmmm....

http://www.fuelgaugereport.com/index.asp

http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/gdu/gasdiesel.asp

Down about 30% is more than "a bit"....and I don't really see evidence of "slowly creeping back up".

:shrug:
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SkiGuy Donating Member (451 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 12:13 PM
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5. Here's some evidence
Privately owned gas station (cheapest in my neighborhood) 2 weeks ago was $2.07. Yesterday it was $2.19.
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Broken_Hero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 11:26 PM
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15. here's some more evidence...
Edited on Sun Dec-11-05 11:27 PM by petersond
last week , i paid anywhere between 1.85-1.90 for gas, today, 2.09 cents.....a increase of approx 20 cents, give or take a few cents...its been creeping up....makes me wonder what "there" excuse for the increase will be this time....?

edit:Spelling
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 12:15 PM
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7. Spoken Like A Good Texan!!!! ...
I'm assuming Tx in your post name means you're from Texas?

From June 22, 2005 until Dec 11, 2005 the average price I've paid per gallon of regular unleaded is $2.462/gal.

The highest price I've paid was on Sept 4, 2005 at $3.099/gal.

The lowest price I've paid was on Dec 2, 2005 at $2.079/gal.

Today the price is $2.319/gal.

I've been tracking my purchases as I've purchased a new car and am monitoring the mpg. This is why I have this data.

I'd be curious to see what the price of gas was on these same dates before * was first elected and what they were 1 year ago.

Now that the pressure is again off of the oil companies - the pricing is going back up.

With oil people in the WH what do you expect?

Go figure.

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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 12:53 PM
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11. I have provided evidence and you have provided one anectdote..
with a strawman ad hominem attack thrown in. Do you actually have evidence to support your assertion in the OP (you undercut your own assertion by showing that the gas price you paid went down a whopping 33%...more than "down a bit").

So, any evidence?
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 01:06 PM
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12. I've Not Made The Assertion That *'s Poll Numbers Dictate The...
gas prices. The evidence I showed is the actual prices I've paid for gas since June. As you will note the current gas price in my area is getting back up to the average I've paid since June. My claim is that by summer '06 gas prices will be over that average (see my post above). However, what will prove me wrong is that the mid-term elections are coming up in '06 and *Co & the Repugs will probably see their oil buddies get the pricing down. Can't have high gas prices when they are looking to woo the 'sheeple'.

Look at the other posts in this thread. They seem to bear me out that pricing is on the upswing again.

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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 01:12 PM
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13. I never said you made that assertion.....
I'm not sure where you got that I did. :shrug:

Now we have about 5 anectdotes and a national average based on thousands of stations reporting.
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1monster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 05:52 PM
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19. I didn't say that there was a direct correlation between gas prices and
Bush's poll numbers. I simply stated a fact. In this area, the prices went down within days of Bush's poll numbers going down. Now, one poll has his numbers up to 42% and gas prices are back up ($2.15 to 2.19 today from 2.09 and 2.15 yesterday. Coincidence most likely, but an interesting one at that.
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 09:06 AM
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28. Ummmm..Isn't down 33% from triple the price of two or three years
ago STILL twice as high? This sounds like when you see the 'discount' price vs. the catalog price. The catalog price was falsely inflated so that you will think you are getting a great 'deal' with what is in reality the normal price of the item. It does seem like gas prices will shoot up for some BS reason and then fall some (even 33%) and everybody eaves a big sigh of relief. If gas prices keep following the "three steps forward, one step back" path they have been, we will be paying a WHOLE lot more than we are now for gas and counting our blessings. IF it is an industry strategy, it is a really smart one.


BUT...high gas prices may not be such a horrible thing. If they make people look into alternatives and stop buying land-yachts, it may average out in the end.
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Poppyseedman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 12:16 PM
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8. Sometimes facts are difficult things to digest around here



It's actually pretty humorous that people think Bush controls retail prices as a means to help his poll numbers. If that was the case, why isn't gas at .99 cents
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Thorandmjolnir Donating Member (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 01:59 PM
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31. I see that your numbers does not reflect
the time period since the Congressional Hearings.

I think that is the period the OP was talking about.

Just my 2 cents.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 06:21 AM
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17. where are you?
I am in North Texas and gas prices are going up
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 12:00 PM
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3. Lowest here
was $2.09
gassed up yesterday at $2.24....a-holes.... :grr: :grr:
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 12:04 PM
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4. In other news, the chocolate ration was recently increased to 25 grams. n/
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POAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 12:14 PM
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6. Gas WAS down to 1.92 in Nrtheast Ohio BUT
now it's back into the 2.20 area.
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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 12:29 PM
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9. Still sliding down in SoCal

but then we have our own blends in California and sources (mostly) and rather little use for heating oil.

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turtlelowe Donating Member (67 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 12:33 PM
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10. It is going up here . . .
No joke, last week we paid anywhere between 1.81 and 1.87 a gallon. It is now 2.07 a gallon. I don't recall any disasters occurring which would drive the price up .30 in the course of a week. The oil execs must be needing to pay for the company Christmas party.
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 01:37 PM
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14. You're right.
I remember being outraged last June when regular was up to $2.00/gallon.

Then, after Katrina, it skyrocketed to $3.00/gallon. (I know some of these prices vary according to what region one is in--but the general principles remain the same.)

Then, last week, it came back down to $1.99-point 9 dollars per gallon. I was all eager to get out there and take advantage of the "cheap, bargain" gas prices.

But $2.00/gallon is still outrageous. AND I BELIEVE THAT BUSH IS DIRECTLY BENEFITING MONETARILY FROM ALL THE RISING GASOLINE PRICES. DIRECTLY. IOW, HE IS USING THE PRESIDENCY FOR HIS OWN PERSONAL GAIN.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 11:52 PM
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16. Going up here in Massachusetts as well...
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 06:12 PM
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20. gas prices are a symptom; they aren't the disease
Edited on Mon Dec-12-05 06:13 PM by welshTerrier2
our entire foreign policy is based on procuring and protecting oil ... but the policy is not designed in the best interests of the American people ... the beneficiaries are Big Oil and their largest shareholders ... for generations, Congress has allowed the American military to be used as a private security force to ensure friendly regimes, destabilize unfriendly regimes and guard oil pipelines and other oil resources ...

gas prices give most Americans only a tiny glimpse at just how in bed our government has become with Big Oil and just how much control Big Oil is able to exert over the supposedly "free" market ... instead of making Big Oil's corruption of our government the main issue, our elected representatives fight like hell to get those gas prices dropped by a few pennies ... this ends up being nothing more than appeasement that let's the most vocal critics go back to sleep ...

the real problem not only goes unresolved; it goes unaddressed ...
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MalachiConstant Donating Member (368 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 06:14 PM
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21. i haven't had my license 10 years yet
and i remember when i could get gas at 90 cents a gallon. and to think that i was excited when i filled up at 1.99 a gallon a couple weeks ago. sad....




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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 06:22 PM
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22. Quit bithching about GASOLINE and bitch about what matters.
STAGNANT WAGES.
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 08:44 AM
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25. Could it be that these things could be connected?
We run a small business and as long as we are sinking as much money into fuel as we are, wages are going to remain stagnant.
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 09:03 AM
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27. Uhm. NO.
Edited on Tue Dec-13-05 09:05 AM by iconoclastNYC
Real wages haven't grown since 1976. You can't blame it on gas spikes, plus we'll never kick the oil addiction if oil prices drop back down to earth.
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Penndems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 09:24 PM
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23. Gas prices are DOWN? Not here in Virginia!
Don't know what they are in the rest of the country, but in my neck of the woods they're inching back up to almost $3.00 a gallon (and I have a hunch it'll go higher than that).



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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 08:41 AM
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24. $2.39 at my last stop.
To be honest, I'm not driving around burning up fuel in the tank to see who's lower; there are no gas stations on my way to and from work, and only a handful when I drive into town to fill up. I'm more likely to buy it at one of the 2 stations that are on my way to the store, rather than make a special trip.
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 08:55 AM
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26. In Madison they went from 3.219 to 2.159 - that's lower isn't it?
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 09:08 AM
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29. Up & down up & down....soon the people will be indeed jumping
up and down. I still see all the SUV's and the big big pick up trucks all over the road everyday. My only question is where do they get the money to buy gas?

Where are all the bicycles? Don't all third world counties have a lot of motor scooters?

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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 01:14 PM
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30. Absolutely correct.
I think the way for us to pressure the bastards is to cut out any discretionary use of their product (gasoline.)
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