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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 11:18 AM
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John Murtha wants your help!
http://www.dccc.org/get_involved/petitions/murtha/

"America wants and deserves real answers on Iraq: What is the clear definition of success? Is there a plan? How much longer and how many more lives? In short, what is the end game?

Because we in Congress are charged with overseeing the safety of our sons and daughters when the president sends them into battle, it is our responsibility, our obligation to speak out for them. This obligation has not been met. That's why I am speaking out now.

I offered a concrete plan to get our troops out of harm's way, where they have become the target. I don't expect every member of Congress to agree with my specific proposal in this debate - but I do expect them to take part in that debate, not to squash it.

I am asking you to join me in demanding a real discussion of the war in Iraq from the U.S. House of Representatives.

Tell Congress to Have an Honest Debate For the Safety of Our Troops.

For too long Congress has counted itself out of any real debate on Iraq policy. We didn't talk about troop levels, even after the White House fired General Shinseki because he complained the levels were too low. One problem we encountered was the lack of proper training for our troops; service members were placed to guard the prisons but weren't trained; consequently we had Abu Ghraib, and no action from Congress. And if you look at the casualties, they have doubled since then. It's time to change our course - we can't just sit back any longer.

I've taken a lot of trips to Iraq. When I came back from my last one, I had become convinced we were making no progress at all. This can't be Republican and Democrat. It can't be recrimination one way or the other. We have to work this thing out, and we can't let a real solution get caught in the crossfire of an understandably heated political fight.

It's time for a serious conversation, not more rhetoric.

Tell Congress to Have an Honest Debate For the Safety of Our Troops.

The past few weeks have had a lot of firsts for me. I have never sought out the spotlight, or even taken the lead in a House floor debate the way I did a few weeks ago. And I've never signed an email like this before. But I see the beginning of a debate that is long overdue, and we can't afford to let it get overtaken by talking points or the news cycle.

I'm offering this petition, which will be delivered to Speaker of the House in order to keep our Congress focused where it should have been all along. I hope you'll sign if you agree.

Tell Congress to Have an Honest Debate For the Safety of Our Troops.

Sincerely,

John Murtha
Pennsylvania's 12th District



It is very important to spread Rep. John Murtha's call for an honest debate on Iraq. Please take this opportunity to forward his message to your friends and family."
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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 11:31 AM
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1. Done
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Sparkman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 11:32 AM
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2. DCCC, Are they new or old?
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 11:37 AM
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4. Been around for a while.
Edited on Fri Dec-09-05 11:38 AM by Warren Stupidity
It is an organizing committe for democratic congressional campaigns. Unfortunately Rahm Emanuel, who I don't trust at all, is the chairman. However I think John Murtha needs all the help we can give him, especially in light of the White Flag ad from the RNC and the, it seems, coordinated attack on the DNC and antiwar Democrats from the DLC.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 11:35 AM
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3. Done, and kicked!
And recommended.
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 12:05 PM
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5. Done!
Go Jack!
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 12:09 PM
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6. k & r -- on general principle
Action. Now.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 12:17 PM
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7. RNC calls us surrender monkeys
John Murtha says "Cut the crap. Lets Debate the Issues". Go John!
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 01:07 PM
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10. Wouldn't it be beautiful if the DNC bought 10 second spots with
Murtha saying "Cut the crap. Let's debate the issue." They could buy so many more than the RNC smear campaign.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 01:27 PM
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12. That would be excellent.
Instead half of our 'leaders' will be falling over themselves to proclaim "no we are not surrender monkeys, stay and die!, stay and die!".

Howard? Your face is having that white flag waved at it. Whatcha gonna do?
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 12:39 PM
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8. signed
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 01:06 PM
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9. my problem--I don't want answers from them. I want them gone.
period. Trying to get an honest debate out of them is pointless--they have proven they will not be honest too many times to even consider it, IMO. Answers from them would only expose their perfidy. Not provoke a solution.

I understand the sentiment,and under other circumstances holding them to account would be the honorable way to go. But these irrational psychopaths cannot be reasoned with. They have gone too far. Every minute we allow them to stay in office ALL AMERICANS are complicit in their crimes.

They have to go. That is all.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 01:25 PM
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11. Oh I agree.
But Murtha is nudging them in the right direction. He has reframed the debate and I'm all for it.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 04:42 PM
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13. K & R nm
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Pam-Moby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 06:01 PM
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14. Done-thanks for posting
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