Who will be the first black President or Vice-President (Democratic)

[...of J.Temperance]

Who will be the first black President or Vice-President?

I'VE PUT DEMOCRATIC BECAUSE...PLEASE I DO NOT WANT TO HEAR ANYMORE ABOUT CONDI RICE EITHER RUNNING IN 2008 OR SOMEHOW BECOMING VICE-PRESIDENT BEFORE 2008...OKAY? The FIRST person to comment "CONDI" is going to be subjected to a SEVERE UBER spanking...and I DON'T mean maybe!!

I personally think that the first black President or Vice-President is going to be Congressman Harold Ford Jr. of Tennessee. Hopefully, Congressman Harold Ford Jr. next year will become SENATOR Harold Ford Jr. replacing that motherfucker Bill "Cat Killer" Frist.

I really like Harold Ford Jr. a lot, I think he's a good fellow and he's VERY photogenic...I admit I think he's very pretty *swoon* I think he's more handsome than Senator Obama, I really do.



So, why not get voting?

:popcorn:

[Dances with Cats]

1. it hurts to say this

but I don't think we will find out in our lifetime unless you are W-A-Y young! And a women might run, but will lose. It is still the old WASP's nation and if they can't win it, by God they will steal it (Diebold, etc) Don't get me started, haha....

[...of J.Temperance]

4. On December 22nd I'll be

27...so I'm young still...so I DO think that in my personal lifetime, yes I'm going to see the first black President or Vice-President AND the first woman President or Vice-President.

I believe this in my heart, because we know it's the correct way to go.

[Dances with Cats]

7. I hope you are right

and I'm an old dirty white boy. :-) 46 yrs old

[...of J.Temperance]

8. Hey!

I LOVE those dirty boys...46 yrs old is still young honey ;)

[Dances with Cats]

9. You are very kind

plus I got me some youthful genes, haha.....

[...of J.Temperance]

11. You're

Doing good ;)

On Edit: I've edited the edit. I don't want to get my own thread locked :)

[Dances with Cats]

14. That is all I aspire to

is to do good. Progress, not perfection. Didn't understand all that Edit jargon however....Didja see my post that Condi Rice is from my hometown. Ugh!!!

[...of J.Temperance]

17. It's okay

I made a comment about dirty white girls...sorry, I'll have to award myself one of these :spank:

Yeah, I answered that post about Condi being from Birmingham...and I'm very sorry about that, that Birmingham is unfortunately associated with her. Birmingham's such a nice place, she's NOT worthy of any association.

On Edit: Dammit spelling error.

[mac56]

2. First black Democratic Prez/VP, or...

first black Prez/VP (no party designation)?

I have a different answer for each question.

[...of J.Temperance]

5. No, it's ONLY Democratic...because Condi Rice isn't allowed, she'll

Never be President or Vice-President...Rice couldn't get elected Dog-Catcher in my opinion.

[Dances with Cats]

10. Anacondaleeza

Ricearoni is from my hometown (B'ham) Damn what a shame....

[...of J.Temperance]

13. Where does

That name come from? Condoleezza, or however you spell it?

Have you ever heard of this bizarre name previously?

Hey, she was born in Birmingham, Alabama...but she's SURE paid a lot of money to get rid of her Alabama accent, yes?

Condi ain't Southern no more, she's from California and DC.

[Dances with Cats]

23. Anaconda

alls I know is Anaconda is a snake and she does have those reptilian eyes! Alabamas loss is someone elses loss, too, haha!

[...of J.Temperance]

29. Oh

Heck...now I have this image of Condi as a snake. Hold on, Condi IS a snake!

She's a damn scary one :scared:

[Dances with Cats]

32. I hope that snake

doesn't visit me in my dreams, hehe. You hang in there. I like young Mr. Ford. He cas sure give a speech.

[...of J.Temperance]

33. I

Hope that snake doesn't visit you in your dreams either...if she does, force yourself to wake up and then just holler!

Mr. Ford Jr. is delicious. I've seen him appear on some of the political shows and he's very articulate.

[Dances with Cats]

34. articulate

is correct. I watched him tie old Tucker Carlson into a rhetorical knot on Crossfire once. And that ain't easy! Have a good night, I'm outta here for now!
Late,
Dances With Cats

[...of J.Temperance]

36. Tucker Carlson is such a

Wuss, it's almost incredible how he even get's by. He's a real cry-baby too when things don't go his way, I can't stand him. Yuk!

Have a good one :)

[mac56]

12. I wasn't even thinking about Rice.

Of the two you named, probably Ford. Southerner.

But here's the bigger question: are you sure the first black Prez/VP will be a Dem?

[...of J.Temperance]

18. You just

Want one of THESE don't ya? One of THESE :spank:

Okay, I give in...tell me your other choice :)

[mac56]

19. Naah. Never mind.

Don't wanna kill your buzz.

Ford is probably the more likely of the two, for a number of reasons.

[...of J.Temperance]

22. 'Um

But I want to know who you were thinking of now.

Please, tell me...don't let me get all confused :cry:

[mac56]

25. Okay, but remember it was your idea.

I'm a lifelong Dem and an old guy. I'm a yellow dog Dem in thought, word, and deed. But I really, truly think the first black Prez/VP will be a Repub.

To win, a black presidential candidate will have to peel away middle of the road moderates and independents. A progressive black Dem, I'm sorry to say, won't do as well at that as a moderate black Repub.

Just my humble opinion. Your mileage may vary. Hope I'm proven wrong.

Add on edit: not even thinking about a particular candidate.

[...of J.Temperance]

26. Someone like

Charles Barkley?

It's funny, because a lot of people say that the first woman President is going to be a moderate Republican...someone in the mould of say Senator Olympia Snowe.

[mac56]

28. I think they're right on that one too.

JMHO.

Add on edit: Not Barkley. Probably someone we haven't even heard of yet for first black prez/VP.

[...of J.Temperance]

35. I wonder

Who the GOP will find? It's almost a mystery.

Anyway, whoever they'll find...whoever they are...I've already got their number ;)

[Broken_Hero]

3. I hate to agree with the other poster...

but i think we are a long way away from having a ethnic/minority as our president, or vice-president. but if i had a choice, of the two you mentioned, i would say Obama, cause i don't know the other guy worth beans...:)

[...of J.Temperance]

6. Hey, when he's SENATOR Harold Ford Jr. you're going to be

Hearing a lot about him...he's about 31 years-old I think.

[davidinalameda]

15. sorry but I hope he doesn't make it past the primary

he's such a DINO it's pathetic

his opponent is head and shoulders above him

http://www.kurita2006.com/

[...of J.Temperance]

20. I'll

Check that link out, thanks :)

I just think Ford Jr. is so cute, I admit that that IS a big part of why I like him...sorry I'm young and shallow ;)

[mac56]

21. Don't fall into this trap =

"In this country we pick our Miss Americas for how smart they are - and our Presidents for how good they look on TV."

[...of J.Temperance]

27. I do

Try not to. I mean I do take into consideration policy positions most of the time.

Honestly!

[mac56]

30. I'm sure you do.

Just watch out for the "Tiger Beat Magazine" factor.

[Rowdyboy]

16. I think it will be Barack Obama and I think it will be within 20 years....

God willing, I'll live to celebrate that wonderful day.

I think Obama connects with people in the same indescribable way that Bill Clinton does. He seems like a "real" person and has a media presence that any politician would give his eye-teeth for. I'm really hoping that Tennessee is ready to elect a black to statewide office.

Sadly, my state of Mississippi is not that advanced. In 2003 we elected as state treasurer a 31 year old Republican with 3 years banking experience over a eminently qualified black Democrat with 30 years banking/government/administrative experience. That was a truly embarrassing day for my home-state, and I hope Tennessee can do better.

[...of J.Temperance]

24. Did Barbara Blackman

Run for Lieutenant-Governor and she lost to that idiot Amy Tuck who'd switched parties? Was it Blackman, Blackmon (sic)?

I think every other Democrat that year, apart from Governor Ronnie Musgrove won too.

I was thinking that Harold Ford Sr was the Senator before Frist...but I might be wrong, I'd have to check up on that.

Don't worry Rowdyboy, it'll happen :)

On Edit: Dammit, I'm doing simple spelling errors here :(

[Rowdyboy]

37. Actually, Barbara Blackmon was my state senator when she ran....

Even though she was well financed, she ran a very poor campaign. While I supported her, I was disappointed that her campaign was somewhat incoherent and unfocused. There were so many reasons to vote against Tuck and Blackmon really didn't attack meaningfully. That said, Tuck's association with Barbour made them virtually an unbeatable team.

Harold Ford Sr was a US Representative before his son took the seat. Ford's uncle is a Tennessee state senator also, thats probably who you're thinking about. I don't believe there's been a black statewide officeholder in Tennessee since Reconstruction, and I'm not even sure about then.

Yeah, Mississippi will grow up someday. I just hope I'm still around to enjoy it.

[0007]

31. Both men are well educated and can handle their own with

their style. However I give a slight nod to Barack Obama. And I could be wrong.

When or if ever, I couldn't even begin to guess the way things are moving at lighting speed.

[tinfoilinfor2005]

38. I will see Senator Obama in a few weeks at the Florida Dem convention.

I will pack my camera and extra batteries. Hopefully he will flash that gorgeous smile for me!:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[Clark2008]

39. I know Obama's the favorite on DU, but I also know that

he's from "up North."

A Tennessean has a better shot - believe me. It would encompass the Gore revenge and the fact that, well, he's not from "up North."

Until we can get rid of the "elite Yankee" meme... a Dem from "up North," isn't going to win. Sadly.




Oh - and Go Ford in Tennessee!

[1932]

45. I believe he's from Hawaii, and he did as well in S. Illinois as N. Ill.

[StopThief]

40. Sorry to burst your bubble, but. . .

BOTH the first black and the first woman President or Veep will be a Republican. Trust me and FLAME AWAY.

[Independent_Liberal]

41. Definitely Obama

He's the one who stands the best chance in my opinion.

[Crazy Guggenheim]

42. People think Warren G. Harding was *at least* part black.

[radio4progressives]

43. Prefer Obama as President (from the first time I saw him in 2004)

I hadn't laid eyes on Obama until last years when he gave this amazing speech at the 2004 DNC. I've been keeping a very close eye on this guy, and i think he should run for president in 2008.

I like Ford too, but I prefer he run for the Senate. I just do. Seems like Ford's got a little bit of baggage he's having to bear from his fathers election campaign dealings from recent article i read a couple of days ago. So the KROVE machine will make mince meat of that even though it has nothing to do with Congressman Ford, the son.

But I just prefer Obama as leader of the Free world, though I wouldn't mind it if Ford were his running mate, i think probably Ford is better running for Senate because if Obama runs for prez, the Senate will need someone like Ford to replace him.

thaz my 2 cents... ;)

[fujiyama]

44. I like Obama better

and I think he's one of the best speakers in politics today.

I still remember that amazing convention speech. Sure, there have been some votes I disagree with but overall I like him. I also think he can connect with regular people.

Ford is a bit duller, and seems more like your typical politician. I also don't like his voting record much. I understand you have to be somewhat centrist in Tenn. but I can do without some of his Bush praising comments. :puke: I will give him credit for his getting visibly pissed a few days ago. Didn't expect that.

I give Obama the edge though.

[radio4progressives]

46. Absolutely.. Ford is a good Rep for his district - (I guess) but does not

have the "stuff" that Obama already possess. I think Obama is getting up to speed on Foreign Policy issues very quickly.. He's working on Nuclear Non-Proliferation, went with Lugar to Russia, got detained (arrested) which I'm sure opened his eyes to a few problems, to say the least. I also listened his report from that trip. I like his approach with Condi Rice, in terms of the most pertinent questions, and concerns. He might not be "seasoned" enough in some eyes, but I think that he needs to be encouraged. He certainly has a hell of a lot more in his little finger than that MORON in the white house now.

[salin]

47. Sadly, I remember this talk about Wilder (D gov of Va)

didn't happen then (granted he didn't have the personality of Obama), and I don't know that it (black - or female for that matter) anytime soon. Just don't see our population being that evolved, yet. Too many years of politicians pandering to base codewords to make prejudices "safe" through "couched terms"... has prevented real growth in terms of accepting and supporting anyone but white-males for the highest seats of power.

I very much hope to be proven wrong on this - I think we miss out on the potential leadership of some phenomenal individuals due to our country's collective prejudices.