Hillary, You're Not Listening.

[kentuck]

http://www.commondreams.org/views05/1123-28.htm

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"Part of my job is being a good listener," Hillary Clinton wrote, in the first line of her letter received today. As a New Yorker, I'm represented by Hillary in the U.S. Senate. Along with her two-page fundraising letter, I received a four-page "2005 Critical National Issues Survey."

But something was missing -- something Hillary obviously doesn't want to hear about: IRAQ. Nowhere in the letter or the questionnaire was that four-letter word.

Hillary's first question asked me to rank nine issues in their "order of importance." Iraq wasn't on the list. Nor was there a place I could add an issue she'd somehow forgotten about.

The problem is she hadn't forgotten the war. She simply doesn't want to hear about one of the biggest issues dividing our country, draining the federal budget, destabilizing the Middle East, undermining international law and institutions, and spreading fear and hatred of our country.

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[xray s]

1. I bet over 50% of those surveys are mailed back with IRAQ! written on them

Mine was.

Hillary, get lost.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

7. I wrote "IRAQ!" next to the survey questions.

And on the back, where it asks for comments, I said if you are afraid to talk about Iraq you don't deserve to hold any national office.

[PassingFair]

12. I did too!

I also wrote that all of my donations will go to DFA to recruit and fund progressive candidates....

[mhr]

2. This Is Why She Will Not Get My Support For President

Her candidacy for president is dead on arrival for me.

[ClayZ]

3. Perhaps she should watch the news with me

And hear me scream at the TV... I bet she would then hear!

I am beginning to understand Vincent VanGogh having an urge to remove an ear.

[skipos]

4. 40% of voters are already commited to voting against her

in every poll I have seen. Like this one:
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/2005/Hillary%20Meter.htm

Which is very consistent when I look around DU and talk to friends and family. Please don't run Hillary, you will lose.

ABH for the 2008 nomination.

[eleny]

5. If they pull the troops out by next year - is this moot?

It still makes trouble for her since other Dems can say they were right all along or that they wanted the troops out and it happened because they got the ball rolling. Either way, she's out of the picture and has a huge uphill climb. Meantime, the Republicans have bupkus.

[BlueIris]

6. Hee. I'm not Hillary-hater, and I support a gradual withdrawl, not an

immediate one, (please don't flame--do not!) but although I understand what HRC's trying to do here--"You're Not Listening" is the best thread title ever. Because, I get why she's doing what she is, but the fact that her constituents DON'T want her to pursue this stance--she's isn't listening. Keep it up.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

8. The problem with Hillary isn't even that she apparently doesn't

support immediate withdrawal -- it's that she won't even talk about Iraq. She's doing that obnoxious DLC thing, being a human windsock, waiting to see where the strongest political wind is blowing before she even agrees to discuss the matter. That's just plain chickenshit, IMO.

[BenDavid]

9. Let me get this

right. You all want Hillary to come out and speak out about Iraq and say the troops need to be pulled out.... now. Do you want every damn media asshole from CNN to FAUX to MSNBC to CBS, NBC,ABC, and writers such as Mo Dowd, and a string oof other mediawhores to continue a daily bombardment against Hillary. If she were to speak out now she would not be given a fair shake and you all know that.

Listen, I think, hell, I know she is married to the smartest political mind in Bill Clinton, and I am sure when the time is right she will come out and give the proper attention to this issue. So fret not my Hillary haters, she will do it when the time is right. Not sooner. Not later. When it is right. Plus, it makes no difference what she says, Bush and company are not going to pay her no never mind, but the RNC would if she came out now and said, the troops need to be pulled out..NOW! Of course she would be received with open arms by the repugs like Murtha was received...NOT!!!!. You want that?

[kentuck]

10. When will the time be "right"?

It was reported today that Bush plans on pulling out 60,000 troops next year? Will Hillary agree with that decision? Or will she wait to see the consequences of that decision and then say it was right or wrong? Huh? Leaders lead...they don't follow.

[BenDavid]

11. Okay, so bushit

decided he wants to pull out 60,000 in 06. Okay what have you got. You have Hillary on record as saying, we cannot pullout all the troops in Iraq immediately. So, on this aspect she is covered, and no one can say she was advocating the withdrawal of troops. Now with her stance on the troops remaining in Iraq, she has thus shown her support for the troops that are over in Iraq and Afghanistan. So no repug can point a finger at Clinton and say she wanted all the troops to leave. She will agree with the reduction in the troop level because bushit will have the backing of the joint chiefs and the pentagon to fall back on and say they believe this reduction will work. All, I was saying is Hillary has done the right thing by not joining in the call for all troops to be pulled out of Iraq.

Now think for a minute how the news would have covered this if Hillary had advocated the troops all withdraw from iraq. Bush trumps her by calling for 60,000 in 06. I believe most should go back and google Hillary Clinton + troops in Iraq...Read the entire article and be sure to read the second item she said that had to be done in Iraq after she said, pulling all troops out of Iraq is not the way....

[kentuck]

13. You probably are right on with her "political" strategy....

If the shit hits the fan, Hillary can say we should never had pulled the troops out. If the troops are pulled out with little noticeable difference, Hillary can say that there is danger in that decisionand that we do not need to "cut and run". She can play the "hawk" so long as the decision is not hers politically. The wildcard is that there are people dying every day.

[PassingFair]

14. The time was right BEFORE she voted to give * the power...

to invade and occupy Iraq. BEFORE thousand upon thousands lost their lives.
She's a cuckold and a champagne glass clinking corporatist.
I'll work against her in the primaries.