W.H. Attack Dogs are At It Again: Kerry Responds to Cheney & Mehlman

[kerrygoddess]

The White House Attack Dogs are At It Again: Kerry Responds to Mehlman

Ron just posted an article from Glen Johnson of AP News, that was a run down of the rebuttal by Kerry - see full rebuttal to Cheney here - to a speech delivered by Cheney (see Cheney’s speech here) earlier today.

John Kerry also responded to the latest Republican personal attacks issued by White House Attack Dog of the Day - RNC Chairman Ken Mehlman:

“This continues to be the say one thing, then do another Administration. If the President is sincere about wanting an honest and open debate on Iraq, he would call off his attack dogs and engage in that debate. Instead, they continue to hide their mistakes behind smokescreens of fear and smear. One minute the White House acknowledges they were out of line attacking Jack Murtha, then they impugn the character of other Democrats.

MORE & LINKS - http://blog.thedemocraticdaily.com/?p=1222

Full Response to Cheney - http://blog.thedemocraticdaily.com/?page_id=1223

AP News piece on Kerry Press Conference - http://blog.thedemocraticdaily.com/?p=1221

[Joe for Clark]

1. Please, no more Kerry.

Anybody else is fine.

I held my nose long enough to vote for the guy - no more.

Joe

[Mass]

3. You can skip the threads if you want.

[globalvillage]

6. Maybe the threads with Kerry in the title

posted by someone named kerrygoddess are just too difficult to recognize as Kerry threads.
Perhaps we should look into different colors.

[Vektor]

7. HAHAHA!

It seems it would be exhausting to go out of one's way to complain like that. Ignoring the thread seems like a terrific idea. :shrug:

[Kolesar]

62. different colors

lol

[blm]

4. Why?

You can't respect the man who made hard choices and put his life on the line to investigate and expose more government corruption than any other lawmaker in modern history?

If that makes you hold your nose, then I am glad I don't have your priorities.

[Joe for Clark]

11. My priority is to win.

I think about 4,000 of our children will "lose" here. I have no doubt Kerry knew what was right. He sure didn't do the right thing, though.

No more BS. He ain't the guy. He lost.

At least Gore won the popular vote - hands down. I do trust Gore.

I do NOT trust Kerry, and an awful lot of us will never trust him again. He lost it that day on the Grand Canyon.

If the only casualty was my going to war, I'd live with it. As it is now, I already have one kid "detoured" to Iraq, and three more of age.

We cannot afford any more mistakes. Kerry was just another mistake.

Please, no more Kerry. No more losing either.

Joe

[Mass]

12. So just skip the thread. Ignore it.

[Vektor]

15. This again?

Ok, Seriously. Stop.

These petty attacks are ridiculous. Why don't you find a thread more to your liking and quit bitching because someone dared post a thread about a candidate that you don't prefer. We are going to sit here and discuss Kerry.

Don't like it? Great. Run along, then.

[LittleClarkie]

16. That's fine. But this isn't a thread about Kerry running in 2008

It's a thread about his response to Cheney and Mehlman calling him out by name. If a person is publically called out by name, don't you think it's appropriate to respond in public?

Do you have a problem, comment or criticism of his statement re: Cheney and/or Mehlman?

Otherwise, if you just want to randomly shout "No more Kerry" then perhaps a separate thread would be in order.

[win_in_06]

17. Did Clark oppose the war at the time the resolution was passed?

[Vektor]

19. Even if he didn't, we have too much class to gratuitously attack Clark

just because he is not our very fave candidate. And frankly this surprises me. I have never seen anything but the utmost grace and decency from the Clark supporters. In all my time on DU this is the only time someone identifying themselves as a Clark supporter has leapt onto a Kerry thread to spew venom unprovoked, that I have seen.

They are definitely not all like that.

[LittleClarkie]

21. And I've been known to return the compliment on Clark threads

Indeed, mostly a decent bunch.

[Vektor]

24. Awww...

:hug:

For you:

How cute is this?

[Joe for Clark]

23. Yeah he did,

But then he went a step further.

I am a moderate person, I really am.

But in truth, General Clark laid out the scenario for us.

Scared the hell out of us, too. We knew he was right.

I do not know if Clark will be our guy in 2008, I don't care.

We better make the right choice, though.

The only thing I am sold on is that this choice better be right. We have already spent our second chance here. And I think Kerry ain't it.

We don't have nine lives - we will be lucky to have two.

So I don't care what Kerry says. Is it a seperate thread?? Only if we have a seperate country. Blood is red all over, though.

Joe

[Vektor]

25. Can we start a DU DRAMA thread?

Cuz, seriously. :eyes:

[mac56]

27. Damn, I agree.

We need a "drama queen" smilie or something.

[Vektor]

30. Maybe with a little tiara....

That would be priceless.

[win_in_06]

28. Can a brother get a link?

[emulatorloo]

41. doesn't matter - I love Clark and all good dems who stand up to BUSHCO

n/t

[sallyseven]

22. No matter who ran against

bush. He would have lost. The election was rigged.

[Vektor]

26. AMEN!

Jesus would have lost to Bush and Diebold.

[Catamount]

63. So true! n/t

[blm]

57. Many of us with a grasp of history and respect for FACTS disagree with you

and if you really want to win, you need to deal with the reality that ANY Democrat can win once the GOP control of the media and the voting machines is exposed.

The kneejerk reaction to blaming Kerry alone is absurd, especially since he gained 10million votes over Gore in 2000 and likely had another 6 million stolen from him through rigged machines.

Did the DNC perform as disciplined and as fiercely as the RNC from 2000-2004?

Did the leftleaning and objective media convey the truth and facts as fiercely as the RW media machine spread lies?

Kerry won his matchups with Bush DECISIVELY every time.

How did the rest of the team do?

[Joe for Clark]

29. Name some.

Spine of a jelly fish.

I am tired of losing, aren't you??

We don't have to. And we cannot afford it anymore, either.

[kerrygoddess]

32. Last I checked

I didn't mention that Kerry was running in 08 in this thread. So I do think your comment was out of line and totally off topic.

If you want to talk about Cheney and Mehlman's latest attacks on Kery and Dems -- let's chat -- if not take it some where else.

[Vektor]

34. Oh, believe you me, buddy, there is NOTHING "SOFT" ABOUT KERRY.

Just look at that TURGOR:


WMD, FOUND!

Oooh! You just reminded me.

*LOVER'S HAIKU*

the massive missile
kerry weapon dwarfs small men
denim, burgeoning

climb the meat ladder
one tasty rung at a time
but careful! it's huge

tall proud patriot
mass weapon hides in dress whites
better take cover!

[Kingofalldems]

44. The Democratic Party has many members

We are a team, and I don't appreciate trashing a long time loyal Dem by anyone. The tactics of the GOP is to divide and conquer, so any divisive posts will be looked at with suspicion by myself, and I am sure, many members of DU. BTW, I guarantee that General Clark AGREED with Kerry 100%, so put that in your pipe and smoke it.

[kerrygoddess]

45. What you said!

Yeah!

[Mass]

51. I am tired of you telling my senator to disappear.

Seems to be your main occupation these days. He is a US senator and as a senator and a citizen, he has the right to speak up. THIS IS STILL A FREE COUNTRY.

If you dont like it, too bad for you.

[blm]

58. Name ONE lawmaker who did more in the last 35yrs. to oppose govt.

power and corruption than John Kerry.

And then explain how he did so pretty much without support from the Dem party, and with a spine of a jellyfish.

I think YOU need to explain why you know so little about the historic record that you would even make such demonstrably false statements.

You mistake kindness, civility, and elegant use of language for weakness. That's the Limbaughization of this country, and you want to accomodate it and reinforce it, instead of changing it.

[flpoljunkie]

67. Dem party did not stand up to the media and fight for Kerry/Edwards in '04

You have to ask yourself why--spinelessness, or perhaps they did not want Kerry to be elected President. After all, as you have mentioned many times, Kerry did not receive the party's support when he tried to expose corruption, i.e, Iran Contra, BCCI banking scandals.

[Vektor]

5. Please - no more clicking on threads about Kerry to bitch about Kerry.

Maybe just skip the threads and refrain from making it a point to disrupt threads that others might want to read. That's beyond rude.

[BJW]

8. Thank you!!!!

[Vektor]

10. You're welcome!

:-)

[LittleClarkie]

13. Indeed, esp. when the bitch has nothing to do with the OP.

Now a criticism of what the dude actually said, and hence what the thread is about, would make more sense at least.

[Mass]

14. You're asking for logic here. That would mean he has read the thread

It is easier to bitch without knowing why.

[LittleClarkie]

9. No more responses to the Republicans?

I can only deduce that's what you mean, since the OP is about a rebuttal to Right Wing lies.

But I thought we wanted Democrats to respond to Right Wing lies.

Or is that your Pavlovian response to just seeing his name?

[Joe for Clark]

33. What does that mean??

Pavlovian??

I think your deduction capablilities are pretty limited, then.

We better decide what works for us, or we are going to get our asses kicked again.

Maybe you can afford to spend four years over there - but no more of my kids will.

Time to take a stand.

Joe

[emulatorloo]

39. means you drool when you see the name Kerry and bash him

even when he is standing up for you against Dick Cheney et al

google pavlov

[kerrygoddess]

40. Yo Joe

We ain't talking about 08 here - we're talking about NOW.

And FYI, if we were even remotely talking about 08, then I got to say I got a kid and come 08, I'll be putting my energies behind the person who in 08 shows they are best qualified.

Until then I don't give a rat's ass about 08. This is about NOW!

Why don't you direct all your energy into a nice LTE to a newspaper about the latest Repub assaults on Dems? That would be so much more usual than this BULLSHIT disruption.

[LittleClarkie]

48. And indeed, if we wanted to interject 2008 into every thread

there are other politicians or wouldbe politicians who ALSO have a Leadership PAC and/or have visited New Hampshire and Iowa (ahem).:think:

[LittleClarkie]

42. Some folks I've seen react to the word "Kerry" as if a bell has been rung

regardless of what the thread is about.

My deductive capabilities are just fine thank you. But so far you haven't noticed that this thread has nothing to do with 2008 except that it has the word Kerry in it, who MAY be running in 2008.

It has everything to do, however, with a man defending himself from an administration that has been calling him out BY NAME.

Perhaps if you would like to discuss Kerry in 2008, your own thread would be in order.

This one happens to be about accusations and responses to those accusations.

The only one talking about 2008 is you.

How would you like it if I marched into every Clark thread, regardless of topic being discussed, and announced repeatedly that I don't want him in 2008?

Imagine a post about "Clark gave a speech today" followed by me shouting "I don't want him in 2008!!!" "Alrighty, but what did you think of the speech?" folks would be justified in asking me.

Ya dig?

[kerrygoddess]

43. Ding Ding Ding

I kind of like this Kerry guy, he's in there fighting the Repubs every day and getting stuff through in the Senate recently... hmmm you'd think he was...

[LittleClarkie]

46. (salvates)

Hmm, this Pavlovian thing works, apparently. (drool, drool)

[Vektor]

47. Hey! I salivate when I see Kerry too!

Imagine that. :evilgrin:

[kerrygoddess]

31. Do me a favor

Ignore my threads - because GUESS WHAT - yo don't find me pissing and moaning in the Clark threads.

This BULLSHIT complaining by people who aren't interested in what Kerry is doing is BULLSHIT.

Leave the Kerry threads to those who are interested, because there are plenty who are quite frankly those who are aren't interested are sick and tired of the constant pissing and moaning from those who are not interested.

[Vektor]

36. Attention seeking behavior...

it's kind of sad really.

[harlinchi]

59. I'm a Clark supporter that entered this thread to see what...

...Kerry said regarding the vice president's historical/hysterical revisions. Not matter who you intend to support, aren't Kerry's words important? I'm sorry the thread devolved into a Kerry vs. Clark kinda thing. Can't we all just get along? Can't we get along? Why do folks feel the need to demean Kerry?

[emulatorloo]

35. Please, stop being a Rove Tool - Don't bash good Dems for doing good

This is not a thread about 2008

it is a thread about what Kerry is doing right now today in response to Dick Cheney and Goopy Ken Mehlman.

I do not bash good dems for doing the right thing right now.

[Vektor]

38. HAHAHAHA! ROVE TOOL!

Tool is right.

[wisteria]

52. last I read you were free to use ignore.

No one wants you here if you don't want to be. Your comments don't add anything to this thread worth reading.

[RobertSeattle]

65. He got 59,028,109 votes Dude

I think we earned the right to speak for lots of people.

I would have preferred Clark as well, but Kerry won the Primaries.

[Toots]

66. So you wish to deny others of something because you don't like it

How Republican of you......

[blm]

2. WTF is with Cheney and Mehlman? If they want to debate Kerry on Iraq just

do it.

Their stupid tactic to drag Kerry through the mud time after time is pretty damn stupid at this point.

It was only the media protecting them before. PostKatrina and PostFitzgerald they don't have as great an advantage there as they did the last 5 years.

[Vektor]

18. AGAIN - these simpering little bitches (Mehlman, Cheney et al, )

fear the alpha male. That's pretty much the case with any one who does these cut and run attacks on the man. They'll never debate him face to face, because he will tear them new corn chutes. They know it.

[dmr]

64. That's my answer too. They (GOP) still fear Kerry

They need to continue to swift boat him because people might start to remember what all exactly Kerry spoke about during the 2004 campaign.

Right now Kerry might not be thinking about the 2008 election, but rest assure the GOP is and are worried - and this may explain why this thread's disruptor has made an issue out of it.

Thing is, I think the once sleeping American giant is quite tired of the smear and fear tactics of the right.

[Vektor]

20. ANYWAY. Thank you for this great article, KG.

You really are a great source for Kerry related news.

[emulatorloo]

37. thanks! great article! EOM

[frogmarch]

49. Wonderful article, kerrygoddess!

John Kerry is a hard worker and always has been. I'm very proud of him!

It's sick that no matter what Kerry accomplishes, some people do nothing but spit in his face. I think it's fine that some prefer Clark or Edwards - or whomever - over Kerry, but that shouldn't give anyone the right to hijack a thread whose purpose is to describe something positive Kerry has done or is doing to fight the dark side.

I have never bashed a Democrat, be it Clark, Edwards, or anyone else, and I don't intend to. They're fellow Democrats. They're my people, be they "DLC" or "DNC" or whatever label they've been tagged with. Other possible 08 candidates are bashed from time to time, but for some reason there seems to be an open season on John Kerry.

Wake up and smell the coffee, Kerry detractors! Whether you like him or not, John Kerry is on OUR side, fighting his damnedest for us and what we believe in! He is not the enemy. And he hasn't announced he'll run in 08, so stop spitting on him and focus on 06, for chrissakes.

Edited for spelling.

[kerrygoddess]

50. Well said!

This whole jump on Kerry threads gets old after a while... but if the detractors think they are going to stop people from posting Kerry news, they should think again. ;)

[wisteria]

53. Mehlman is one very unappealing person, the idea of him even

mentioning Kerry by name is sickening. Kerry does good answering Mehlman's attacks.

[Punkingal]

54. This ***ing thread is so absurd....

Instead of talking about how great it is that someone is attacking back at these Republican liars, the whole thread is about someone not liking Kerry. Personally, I love Kerry, but even if I didn't, I am not in favor of crucifying Democrats. I see enough of that in the media. Kerry won the election, and it was stolen from him, and there was not a damn thing he could do about it. As much as that fact hurts us, imagine how he must feel. But let's just keep on kicking Kerry's ass here, and maybe he'll just shut up and then no one will be firing back at the cabal.:argh:

[kerrygoddess]

55. Well said! N/T

[LittleClarkie]

56. Many don't see that there was nothing he could do

They think that he was a coward for not coming out half-cocked making accusations he couldn't have proven in a court of law, regardless of all the circumstantial evidence we may have had.

And so, his mere name is enough to send some folks into apoplexy and shouts of "Not him in 2008!" Never mind that we aren't usually talking about 2008 at the time.

Just like anybody else, if the dude is giving a speech or releasing a statement or appearing on a news show, it would be nice to announce the fact without "Not HIM in 2008" being one of the first things posted or some variation thereof.

I wouldn't march into a Clark thread to do that. Or a Dean thread. In fact, I've visited both on occasion to help defend Dean and Clark. I will even give the occasional kudo to Hillary or (gak) Biden if they deserve it.

It would be nice if folks could respond to the speech or appearance or press release being reported, even if it was critical, rather than going off on those same. two. tangets, either the 1. IWR (He voted for it? Do tell.) or 2008 (he conceded so fast the election hadn't even started yet, doncha know)

Eh. I should go to bed. Hopefully a good night's sleep would get this bitter beer look off my face.

[depakid]

60. They'll never agree to a fair debate on the facts

because they'll lose.

And with all of the the media outlets in their pockets, ready and willing to help them spread their latest lies and distortions- why should they?

Not sure I would if I were them (meaning- if I had no conscience and didn't have any respect for the truth).

[maximovich]

61. You Go Kerry

And for the anti-Kerrys.... STFU already! Or just ignore these threads.