You won't believe what Chris Matthews said in my college paper...

[rockymountaindem]

Ol' Tweety himself is coming to make a speech at the University of Toronto on Sunday about US politics. He gave an interview to our campus' largest paper, including this lovely nugget:

The Varsity: "What do the Democrats need to do to win the next election?"

Matthews: "There are no Democrats worth talking about. The numbers in our poll showed that 8 per cent of the American people are positive about the Democrats. It is a lot more likely that some new third party will take charge."

:wtf: I guess you can't argue with logic like that (and yes, that's all he had to say on the matter).

[stray cat]

1. I can think of alot of dems that would be decent.

[Fenris]

2. Jeanyus, Cris!!!!

:rofl:

[K8-EEE]

3. Oh Yeah And The Republicans Have So Much Credibility...

at this point, give me a break. McCain & Frist have both pissed off various factions of wacky GOP voters, who the hell have THEY got??

[rockymountaindem]

6. According to Matthews

Giuliani

[K8-EEE]

8. Sorry, He's Too NYC & Too Pro Choice

For the wacko doodle Freeper crowd, and they way they've set it up, they can't win without them. That's why THEY'RE screwed, push has finally come to shove. If they pick a Bushite they're screwed, if they pick a moderate they're screwed. They've been playing both sides of the fence and it has come home to roost.

[TheFarseer]

12. I think Giuliani as a candidate is just plain mis-informed

It might seem to make sense strategically (Republican in a blue state) but he has alot of skeletons in his closet and he's pro-choice which will never fly in the repuke primary. Try again, Tweety. Just because *you* like him, doesn't make him the best candidate or the most likely winner. That just makes him the choice of a conceited wack-job like you.

[Pirate Smile]

21. It would set up a prime opportunity for a RW Indy candidate

to siphon votes off from the Republicans with the Social Conservatives jumping ship.

[The Anti-Dittohead]

17. Giulani

More Matthews propaganda.

The religious zealots will never let him when the Pubbie nomination.

Giulani stand a better chance as a Democrat.

Who knows he might run independent?

[rockymountaindem]

20. Welcome to DU, Anti-Dittohead!

:hi:

[newyawker99]

22. Hi The Anti-Dittohead!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[redqueen]

4. Oh, I'm so shocked.

:sarcasm:

[MADem]

5. Tip O'Neill has to be looking down from heaven

...and unzipping his trou, getting ready to piss on that little twit.

To hell with Tweety...he's a pawn, an idiot, a useful tool.

[TheFarseer]

7. That's the nuttiest thing I've ever heard

If he just said that, he doesn't have a shred of credibility left with me. A third party??? That has no money and no candidate as of yet? And no democrats worth talking about? I suppose Condi Rice and Newt Gingrich are worth talking about as viable candidates? If he actually said that in seriousness, he's completely lost it.

[The Anti-Dittohead]

11. Don't buy it

Matthews has been under a lot of pressure to show he is not bias. This was just his weak knee BS to show he plays both sides. He needs more of a spine.

When is liberal going to be willing to stand up to the right wing nut jobs. Quit being scared into silence. America needs the truth. NO more fascists, please Chris.

[donsu]

9. and they will frame and take charge of this "third party"

nt

[TheFarseer]

15. Yeah, they're not talking about the Greens

or even a Ross Perot type. They are talking about a party of "real conservatives", like that disaster Pat Buchanan presided over in 2000 - a party that will finally stand up for millionaires and bigots. . . . . . . . . . .

[Clark2008]

28. Actually, it sounds like Tweety is more pushing the DLC

than freeping for the GOP.

The media moguls have lost the battle sitting in the GOP's pockets, so they're jumping over to the corporist side of the Dem Party.

Still nothing for the little guy.

[soleft]

10. He must think Hillary is going to get the Nom

And he hates Hillary so much he's already planting seeds in his spleen

[OKthatsIT]

13. Im progressive and I wouldnt vote for Hillary, either

[Talismom]

14. I'm a progressive NYer who worked for her campaign and I would

never vote for her again!

[Ignacio Upton]

32. Good, then go and coddle Jeanine Pirro

As a Westchester County resident who has had to suffer under her being DA I do not want her anywhere near Congress. Vote for Hillary in 2006 but against if she runs in 2008. I will vote against her in the primaries in 2008 if she runs, but I will Work to get her re-elected in New York.

[medeak]

16. I agree (go ahead and flame me)

Was thinking the exact same thing yesterday with latest polls showing Bush taking another dive but dems taking even more.

People are tired of the status quo...think a third party has an excellent opportunity (sans Nader that is)

[beltanefauve]

35. The latest poll

showing the Dems taking a slide was a Wall Street Journal poll. They WANT the Dems to slide!

[kcass1954]

18. What a coincidence -

There are no "journalists" worth talking about either!

[papau]

19. Chris Matthews lies - the polls do not show 8% approval, and Hillary

would make a great President - as would other Dems.

And I will support any Dem in the General.

[The Anti-Dittohead]

26. Give Hillary a little latitude

Hillary is positioning herself well for 2008. It would be nice if she would always vote her conscience, but we need her to win. The greater good will be accomplished even if she disappoints us now and then.

The right wing lunatics will crawl out of their skins if she is our nominee. Remember Bill is still very popular and would have easily beaten Bush if given the chance.

Go Hillary Go.

[radio4progressives]

29. The "Greater Good" canard...

The Greater Good would be served with HONESTY and someone who actually represented AMERICANS in the traditional sense of the word, and not the Foreign Councel Relations, the AEI, or even the Brookings Institute.

Democratic rank and filers need to understand that as long as we keep putting up Neo Liberal candidates that serve and worship the same $ as the Neo Cons - then we only have a ONE party system for sure, which means we have no real democracy in any sense of the world because We The People have no real representation.

When people use the term for "The Greater Good" I am very very weary. I've heard this phrase used in the run up to wars, in the establishement of the secrecy laws, in the establishment of the Patriot Act etc etc.

I don't know who Chris Matthews is carrying water for, he is a bit of a provacatuer - I think of a couple of people I think I'd like to see take the helm - Feingold for instance maybe Obama in time (or maybe not).

Point is there are too few who I consider as a strong leader or even decent leader in the DP.

Kerry needs to stay in the Senate and so does Clinton. Biden needs to shut the hell up and retire just as Lieberman does.

It's hillarious to listen to wacko wing nuts accuse Clinton as being a "far leftist" - I think we need some bonafide Leftists (like Bernie Sanders) take front and center if for no other reason to give perspective to these freaking idiots.

But Sanders is busy trying to hang on to his seat - as an Independent, which I intend to contribute.

We're in a serious crises locally and nationally, but I'll be damn if I want to hear bantered around that Clinton will serve the "Greater Good" when I know that Neo Liberal enterprises are about the privatization of all the worlds resources for the financial benefit of joint venture capitalists, securities, and corporations - owning and controlling the worlds resources in the hands of the few and who have no accountability to the people and countries whose valuable resources they are usurping for their own profit and gain.

Nope. Neo Liberalism and Neo Conservatism or different brands of Imperialism - the reason why the Bushevics keep referring to what Intel Clinton had in the run up to the war in Iraq is because Clinton (Neo Liberal) had the same goals as the Neo Cons with regard to Iraq. Hillary cannot be separated from this history.

it's time for DU'rs to get what this thing is about. Stop floating Clinton or Kerry's name out there for '08 aspirations because it doesn't do anything for the "greater good", indeed it just keeps the status quo alive and well but it is absolutely worthless to We The People.

[The Anti-Dittohead]

31. I Think Hillary is really one of us

Appreciate your thoughts, but Bernie Sanders could never win.

Unlike Bill, I think Hillary really is one of us. Let her win and give her a chance. Sometimes practical politics requires that you sing a certain tune even if ultimate you don't believe the lyrics.

I hope you don't take offense, but I want us back in power and I think Hill is our best chance to get there and ultimately do what is right for America.

[Captain Hilts]

23. Chris Matthews is a 'ho. I'm a UofT student too. nt

[rockymountaindem]

24. What college?

n/t

[Captain Hilts]

33. School of Graduate studies. nt

[Awsi Dooger]

25. He really is the worst political handicapper I've ever seen

This is merely the latest example. Whenever he takes a stand on a future event or trend he simply has no competent instinct at all.


"a lot more likely that some new third party will take charge." Oh really. What term are we talking about, 10 years down the road? 20? 40? Regardless, I literally know a dozen bigtime Las Vegas or elsewhere gamblers who would gladly give Matthews (or his surviving offspring if it came to paying off) 10/1 odds against that happening and bet any number he wanted.

[incapsulated]

27. He's a buffoon

I literally couldn't care less what Tweety "thinks".

[flpoljunkie]

30. Well, 'ol Tweety just showed his true colors--red for red state Republican

What an incredibly stupid, irresponsible and untrue statement to make. Tweety is an idiot!

[bluedawg12]

34. Wonder what poll he is reading? Hmm...

Isn't Murtha worth talking about smply as good Dem?

Hilary is worth a nod.

It's too early to get so negative about the candidates when there is yet no field of canididates.